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[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I bet ty's name comes up at the convention. motherfucker can toe a party line,

He's an Obama fan, hence, a traitor to the "progressive" movement, whatever the fuck that is.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
i was focused on "START" a war to eliminate slavery. he didn't eliminate it until he could see his side would almost certainly win the war.

Well, now, had he lost, he wouldn't have been able to eliminate much of anything, would he?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Consider that stolen.

plus nonresponsive, plus the wrong speech anyway.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Consider that stolen.

Spoken like a true "libertarian." You want all the benefits and you don't want to pay for them.

(That's for not giving me props for agreeing with you about government waste and cutting the overall tax rate, bitch.)

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
plus nonresponsive, plus the wrong speech anyway.

I believe you are trying to point out Ron Paul's poor grasp of history, that the civil war was started not over slavery and its elmination but over succession; and that it was, of course, started by the South, not the North. (And give me emancipation proclamation for 100, please).

But, to give the devil his due, Paul's sense of history is superior to Huckabee's grasp of science.

I will not speak to Romney's understanding of anything, unless you first tell me which Romney we're talking about.

[SlaveNoMore]

sebastian_dangerfield
He's an Obama fan, hence, a traitor to the "progressive" movement, whatever the fuck that is.

"Progressive" sounds much nicer than the "Anti-Israel Socialist Party"

[SlaveNoMore]

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I will not speak to Romney's understanding of anything, unless you first tell me which Romney we're talking about.

Giving credit where credit is due, this last quip was amusing.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Spoken like a true "libertarian." You want all the benefits and you don't want to pay for them.

(That's for not giving me props for agreeing with you about government waste and cutting the overall tax rate, bitch.)

I did give you props. You shut me up with the comment, which is about as good as the props come from my end. That's like a grand slam with two runners on each base.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
"Progressive" sounds much nicer than the "Anti-Israel Socialist Party"

Putting that slanted definition aside, can anyone articulate for me a comprehensive "Progressive" platform? I hear so many people use the term, but nobody ever defines it. The term itself suggests a never ending movement, but to what end? If we took "progressive" policies as far as they can go, where exactly would they go? Is it ultimately socialism? I honestly don't know what all these waterheads throwing the term around on television are talking about. "Conservative" is a little easier to understand since Buckley pretty well defined it, so I understand one of the battling ideologies, but a concrete definition of it's opponent's aims and goals and planks seems to elude me.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Putting that slanted definition aside, can anyone articulate for me a comprehensive "Progressive" platform? I hear so many people use the term, but nobody ever defines it. The term itself suggests a never ending movement, but to what end? If we took "progressive" policies as far as they can go, where exactly would they go? Is it ultimately socialism? I honestly don't know what all these waterheads throwing the term around on television are talking about. "Conservative" is a little easier to understand since Buckley pretty well defined it, so I understand one of the battling ideologies, but a concrete definition of it's opponent's aims and goals and planks seems to elude me.

I would have to say that the Republican Party did it best in 1928, when they promised a vote for Hoover would lead to "a chicken in every pot and a car in every garage."

Can't get much more progressive than that, can you?

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
If someone ever said this phrase to me in real life, I would laugh in his/her face. Maybe it is good that I am not a litigator. Do people actually talk like this, or is that just on Law & Order*?

Not usually, but this Board isn't real life.

I say it rarely, always in person (and with a smile to signal that I know what it sounds like).

S_A_M

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Why The Netroots Aren’t Rejoicing Over Obama’s Caucus Win



http://theheritagefoundry.org/2008/0...sed-community/

That makes me like him even more.

S_A_M

[SlaveNoMore]

Secret_Agent_Man
That makes me like him even more.

S_A_M

It also makes me all the more curious why he's has taken the opposite side of almost all of these issues in the Senate.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Putting that slanted definition aside, can anyone articulate for me a comprehensive "Progressive" platform?

Peace, love and understanding.

[LessinSF]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Peace, love and understanding.

Unless you are a Republican. See, e.g., article above.