Politics: Where we struggle to kneel in the muck.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Not Me
I don't sed it that way at all. Israel is one democracy in the middle east. Iraq will be a second one. Hopefully, we can continue to turn the cess pool of Arabia into a civilized region of the world.

This will be difficult to do if we continue to allow Israel a veto over US foreing policy. Brent Scowcroft doesn't seem to think W does a good job handling Sharon: "Sharon just has him wrapped around his little finger," Scowcroft told London's Financial Times. "I think the president is mesmerized."

[Say_hello_for_me]

We are only 93 posts away from the 5000 mark. I hope you will all act tactfully in congratulating me when I grab it. See ya motherf, er best wishes to all for an exciting race!

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
This will be difficult to do if we continue to allow Israel a veto over US foreing policy. Brent Scowcroft doesn't seem to think W does a good job handling Sharon: "Sharon just has him wrapped around his little finger," Scowcroft told London's Financial Times. "I think the president is mesmerized."

GWB is not mesmerized by Sharon. He recognizes that Israel is an ally in the war on terror and is being attacked by terrorist the same as we are and is entitled to fight back the same as we are.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Not Me
GWB is not mesmerized by Sharon. He recognizes that Israel is an ally in the war on terror and is being attacked by terrorist the same as we are and is entitled to fight back the same as we are.

You think Scowcroft overlooks any of this?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Depends on what we're voting for. If the issue is whether we find you some extra padding for your helmet, I vote in favor and will not be swayed.

TM

another Democrat trying to legislate my life. let those whose head collides decide! hmmm. maybe I can make the ballot confusing.....

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Actually, he looks incredibly good for someone who's just had his chest cranked open and the veins yanked out of his legs and sewed to his heart.

you said "yanked his vein" heh-heh heh-heh

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Beg pardon?

See my post earlier today. He allegedly lied about meeting with the members of the security council before the war.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by sgtclub
See my post earlier today. He allegedly lied about meeting with the members of the security council before the war.

Well, to keep things in perspective, I think it quite likely he didn't meet with "all" the member of the security council as he said. Several of the "less important" have said he did not. To be fair to JFK, he may have met with all those he finds important. To be fair to our friends, he should find them all important and not make such a careless statement.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by sgtclub
See my post earlier today. He allegedly lied about meeting with the members of the security council before the war.

Do you believe that this story will create a "serious problem for the Kerry campaign?"

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Do you believe that this story will create a "serious problem for the Kerry campaign?"

I don't think so, but one never knows what can tip the scales a week before an election.

[Hank Chinaski]

Earlier, I told you all that the 380 tons of explosives were bad to lose, but that mistakes happen in war, and that your cries for perfection were unreasonable. I must apologize and retract that statement.

We have destroyed over 100000 tons of explosives and hold 140000 more. we lost 380 tons? Perspective?

To date, 110,000 tons have been destroyed. An additional 138,000 tons are stored behind protective barriers. Saddam seemed to hoard this cornucopia of death aimlessly. "There are no aisles to walk down. It's just heaped," he said. "It just blows your mind to see this stuff."

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/..._weapons14.asp

SS, if you don't retract everything you said....well you'll see

[andViolins]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
This will be difficult to do if we continue to allow Israel a veto over US foreing policy. Brent Scowcroft doesn't seem to think W does a good job handling Sharon: "Sharon just has him wrapped around his little finger," Scowcroft told London's Financial Times. "I think the president is mesmerized."

In that same article, Scowcroft also states, that Sharon "has been nothing but trouble." Nice way to armchair quarterback the guy who is actually going to get Israel out of Gaza.

aV

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by andViolins
In that same article, Scowcroft also states, that Sharon "has been nothing but trouble." Nice way to armchair quarterback the guy who is actually going to get Israel out of Gaza.

aV

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[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Earlier, I told you all that the 380 tons of explosives were bad to lose, but that mistakes happen in war, and that your cries for perfection were unreasonable. I must apologize and retract that statement.

We have destroyed over 100000 tons of explosives and hold 140000 more. we lost 380 tons? Perspective?





http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/..._weapons14.asp

SS, if you don't retract everything you said....well you'll see

Hank, I'm glad that we managed to destroy lots of explosives. By the way, what kind of explosives did we destroy and/or keep? Apparently the stuff we found, then abandoned, and then "lost" were especally toxic stuff.

• HOW MUCH BANG FOR THE BUCK? Most people have probably never heard of RDX, HMX, and PETN, the types of explosives that were looted from al Qaqaa. (Neither did I until I started researching this recently.) Depending on how you ask, these are either the most powerful or among the most powerful conventional explosives that exist. So how much boom do you get for 380 tons of the stuff? My friend and fellow blogger Phillip Carter, a former Army captain, e-mails with an attempt at a back-of-the-envelope calculation, using a "how many Oklahoma City bombings" metric. Here's the result:
  OK City = 5,000 pounds/2,300 kg of ammonium-nitrate and nitromethane.
  This mix has a TNT equivalent ranging from 3%-10%, i.e. the OK City bomb is the equivalent of 150 - 500 pounds of TNT.
  
  AQQ = 380 tons of RDX, HMX and PETN. RDX and PETN have a TNT equivalent value of 170%. Converted into TNT, the AQQ stockpile equals 646 tons or 1,292,000 pounds of explosives.
  
  Convert this back into my OK City metric, and this means that the lost material at AQQ equals betwen 2,584 - 8613 OK City-size bombs. That's one hell of a lot of material to be on the street -- enough to fuel a car-bomb and IED-based insurgency for years, if not decades.
  
  Chilling thought. Even if the order of magnitude is off by, say, two decimal places.

TAPPED

[Replaced_Texan]

What an unfortunate photograph.