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Old 08-24-2004, 11:33 AM   #4951
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Old 08-24-2004, 12:36 PM   #4952
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Now the Russians are challenging Nemov's scoring as well? What the hell is going on? Did anyone see the event in question? What happened?
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Old 08-24-2004, 01:01 PM   #4953
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Now the Russians are challenging Nemov's scoring as well? What the hell is going on? Did anyone see the event in question? What happened?
I saw it. Nemov was robbed. The crowd was booing and hissing and forced the two judges to change their scores by their constant noise making. There was no way the meet could have continued with the amount of noise they were making. Maybe there is some truth to Khorkina's accusations.

Nemov's high bar routine was amazing (6 release moves only 1 had an obvious form break). He definitely should have medaled. It's a toss up whether or not he was better than the Italian who got the gold.

Nemov was incredibly gracious and professional during all the hoopla. Khorkina should take some lessons from him.
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Rock band Queen, fronted by gay icon Freddie Mercury, has become the first rock act to receive an official seal of approval in Iran.

Western music is strictly censored in the Islamic republic, where homosexuality is considered a crime.

But an album of Queen's greatest hits was released in Iran on Monday.

Mercury, who died in 1991, was proud of his Iranian ancestry, and illegal bootleg albums and singles made Queen one of the most popular bands in Iran.
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It's priced at $1 and doing quite well. I'm pretty sure a $1 version of Queen's greatest hits would do quite well anywhere.

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Now the Russians are challenging Nemov's scoring as well? What the hell is going on? Did anyone see the event in question? What happened?

Last night we were watching the rings and felt that the person who competed second was underscored. I forget who he was, but he was outstanding. The Greek fellow hopped on his landing, yet won the gold. Compared to the others we figured he should really have come in 4th out of 5. We just figured they wanted to give the medal to the Greek guy, understandable I suppose but not really fair. The announcers got very quiet after the second fellow was scored lower than the man from Greece.

As far as the women's, we watched it and it seemed that the American was just better than the Russian.

It is difficult to take these subjective sports seriously. I cannot fathom how they score them. I think I know who is going to win and rarely am I right. Maybe I just don't see the details they see or maybe the judges are just full of shit.
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Old 08-24-2004, 01:29 PM   #4956
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Now the Russians are challenging Nemov's scoring as well? What the hell is going on? Did anyone see the event in question? What happened?
Totally robbed. His routine actually made the baltspouse and I get up off the couch and move closer to the TV. He took a step on the landing. Two judges, the Canadian and Malaysian, were significantly lower than the others. After further review, both had their scores changed, but they were still lower than anyone else, and the revised score was still too low to medal.

The crowd was very pissed off. The NBC commentators took the unusual position that the judges were being unfair to Hamm by putting him in the position of having to defend himself yet again in a scoring controversy.
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Old 08-24-2004, 01:29 PM   #4957
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Now the Russians are challenging Nemov's scoring as well? What the hell is going on? Did anyone see the event in question? What happened?
Canadians are protesting Shewfelt's fourth place in the vault as well. http://www.tsn.ca/olympics/news_Story.asp?ID=96079

I did not see it.
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Old 08-24-2004, 01:35 PM   #4958
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I saw it. Nemov was robbed. The crowd was booing and hissing and forced the two judges to change their scores by their constant noise making. There was no way the meet could have continued with the amount of noise they were making. Maybe there is some truth to Khorkina's accusations.

Nemov's high bar routine was amazing (6 release moves only 1 had an obvious form break). He definitely should have medaled. It's a toss up whether or not he was better than the Italian who got the gold.

Nemov was incredibly gracious and professional during all the hoopla. Khorkina should take some lessons from him.
I don't know enough about scoring in gymnastics to know whether or not he was robbed, but Nemov's routine was certainly a crowd pleaser. It's like Hank's Gilligan posts -- sure they're fun to read, but what's the degree of difficulty? It seems plain that the judging lacks the sort of credibility to assign an objective value to human achievement that Olympic gymnastics competitions require. Four scores of 9.762 on the vault? 2 separate ties on the highbar? A judge that can change the score after enduring the disapproval of the crowd? This style of judging is fine for wet t-shirt contests, but hardly appropriate for the Olympics.
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Old 08-24-2004, 01:38 PM   #4959
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I've been out of the loop so maybe this has been discussed but I cannot stand Svetlana Khorkina. I just saw some stats on her and it said she is 5'5" and 110 lbs. Bullshit. Skeletana Whorekina is a whiny little bitch and I am glad we will not see her again.
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I've been out of the loop so maybe this has been discussed but I cannot stand Svetlana Khorkina. I just saw some stats on her and it said she is 5'5" and 110 lbs. Bullshit. Skeletana Whorekina is a whiny little bitch and I am glad we will not see her again.
I was happy to see her fall on the bars last night. I'm sure she'll find a way to blame somebody else for her mistake.
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I've been out of the loop so maybe this has been discussed but I cannot stand Svetlana Khorkina. I just saw some stats on her and it said she is 5'5" and 110 lbs. Bullshit. Skeletana Whorekina is a whiny little bitch and I am glad we will not see her again.
I couldn't disagree more. I look forward to seeing her ugly scrunched up face, storky legs, and complete bitch of a personality doing double anal in some of the Eastern European porn that Less is going to send me from Lithuania.
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The NBC commentators took the unusual position that the judges were being unfair to Hamm by putting him in the position of having to defend himself yet again in a scoring controversy.
Yeah, I'm sure the Malaysian and Canadian judges were conspiring to get booed for five straight minutes just to put Paul Hamm into another scoring controversy by calling three medals into question. C'mon. The commentators are just trying to personalize the judges the way NBC tries to personalize the athletes. Making the judges seem venial makes for better television than making them fallible.

The same commentators had a convoluted explanation for why the South Korean really wasn't robbed on the scoring of the parallel bars in the all-around --- something about a maximum of three holds. I still don't get it, but they bent over backwards to explain how the deductions really were justified.
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The same commentators had a convoluted explanation for why the South Korean really wasn't robbed on the scoring of the parallel bars in the all-around --- something about a maximum of three holds. I still don't get it, but they bent over backwards to explain how the deductions really were justified.
You're making it sound more complicated than it really was. All they really said was that if you go back to video for one thing, you should have to go back to video for everything. To put it in terms you can relate to, think Florida in 2000.
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You're making it sound more complicated than it really was. All they really said was that if you go back to video for one thing, you should have to go back to video for everything. To put it in terms you can relate to, think Florida in 2000.
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The NBC guy saying that Hamm probably didn't want the gold in the high bar because it would be another controversial award is flat out the dumbest statement by anyone so far in the Olympics. It probably ranks top 10 for televised sports.

If Hamm comes back as an announcer for the Olympics, I'm watching CBC. That guy has one irritating voice.
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