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10-26-2004, 12:21 PM
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#4966
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Survivor Island
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Shades of Joe Biden
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An academic researcher has found 11 passages in Senator Kerry's published writings that appear to have been taken from other works without attribution, though experts disagree about whether the copying should be considered plagiarism.
Six of the passages come from Mr. Kerry's 1997 book, "The New War: The Web of Crime That Threatens America's National Security." All bear some similarity to news accounts that preceded publication of the book.
In one instance, Mr. Kerry wrote, "Russian mobsters have been arrested in Germany for extortion, car theft, counterfeiting, prostitution, selling drugs and illegal weapons, and smuggling everything from icons to uranium."
A 1993 Philadelphia Inquirer article, written by Barbara Demick, said, "Suspected Russian mobsters have been arrested in Germany and charged with extortion, car thefts, counterfeiting, prostitution, gambling, and selling drugs and illegal weapons. They have been caught smuggling everything from religious icons to uranium." Mr. Kerry's book contains endnotes but makes no reference to the Inquirer story.
A former English professor and author of two books on plagiarism, Robert Harris, examined that example and others and concluded that many of the instances clearly constituted plagiarism.
"If I had that in a student paper, I'd fail the paper, give them a zero, and make them redo it. On a second offense, I'd fail them for the course," he said. "This kind of plagiarizing, it's really unprofessional."
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10-26-2004, 12:23 PM
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#4967
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
giving up on the potential of any action from dtb, eh? let me guess - this was intentional.*
*standard Hank response number 471.
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Every misstatement or error by Hank is intentional, whether it was at the time he made it or not. Hank is the king of "I meant to do that."
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10-26-2004, 12:39 PM
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#4968
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Shades of Joe Biden
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Originally posted by sgtclub
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Has W ever written anything? For that matter, has he ever read anything?
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10-26-2004, 12:49 PM
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#4969
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Classified
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Is this the October Surprise?
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Huh? He said he met with all the members of the security council pre-war. Many are on record saying they did not meet with him. How is the truth consistent with the lie?
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If you strip the story and the quote of everything but the one point you wish to make, you're absolutely right. Its inconsistent.
OK. Kerry met with "some" instead of "all". You got him. He invented the Internet. Call Zogby and tell him its over.
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10-26-2004, 12:50 PM
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#4970
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Moderator
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Shades of Joe Biden
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Has W ever written anything? For that matter, has he ever read anything?
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Sure. "A Charge To Keep" and "My Pet Goat," respectively.
As for the alleged plagiarism* of Kerry, I think that it's a long way from using similar language to describe Russian Mob activities to stealing the exact lines of a speech. But whatever.
* Is that really the best they can do? Seems pretty weak to me. Hardly comparable to the recent kerfluffles surrounding Stephen Ambrose or Doris Kearns Goodwin.
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10-26-2004, 12:53 PM
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#4971
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Classified
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So, does this mean the NYT is helping a foreign entity overthrow our government?
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Looks like El Baradei failed the Global Test.
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Has the Iraqi interim government said this?
I don't see it as being in the best interests of the IAEA staff, or consistent with its past behavior, to concoct information and publicly lie in an effort to embarass the single most powerful member of the U.N. Security Council to which it reports.
Think about it.
S_A_M
P.S. Or, it is more likely that right-wing bloggers are making shit up, or at best, getting ahead of themselves?
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10-26-2004, 01:07 PM
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#4972
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Sorry, I have to do all my posting for the day fast
The Axis of Evil Endorsement
By Ben Johnson
FrontPageMagazine.com | October 22, 2004
“You shall judge of a man by his foes as well as by his friends.” – Joseph Conrad in the novel Lord Jim.
Months after John Kerry boasted of having received secret endorsements from anonymous foreign leaders around the world, many of the gaps have been filled in. The leaders of the world have weighed in on the 2004 presidential election. Let’s run down the list of nations supporting each candidate:
John Kerry
North Korea: Although north Asia’s gulag archipelago has not formally endorsed a candidate, official Communist organs have shown a pronounced affinity for John Kerry. In March, the Financial Times noted, “John Kerry, the presumptive Democratic candidate, is also getting good play in Pyongyang.” North Korean radio has aired several of Kerry’s anti-Bush speeches, and the Korean Central News Agency has given the Democratic candidate “glowing” coverage. Kerry has publicly called for bilateral discussions with North Korea, such as those conducted by Jimmy Carter on behalf of the Clinton administration in 1994, although analysts agree these would be counterproductive.
Iran: A June editorial in the Tehran Times stated, “Kerry is exactly what the U.S. needs right now.” It is undisputed that Kerry has promised to give Iran exactly what it needs right now: nuclear fuel. Kerry pledged to supply Iran with nuclear fuel, just as Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton did to North Korea as it revved up its nuclear program during the 1990s.
Communist China: The state-controlled People’s Daily “news” website formally endorsed John Kerry in July. An unsigned editorial averred:
Comparatively speaking, Kerry is noted for being friendly with China. He was once firmly against linking the most-favored-nation status to China with human rights. From a long-term view, a Democratic administration, which stresses international cooperation, pursues “multilateralism” and stands for a policy of contacts, will be better for both world peace and Sino-U.S. relations.
The editorial also noted John Kerry opposes “containment of China.”
Palestinian Authority: PA foreign minister Nabil Shaath has said in a Kerry presidency, “it would be likely that several staff members during Clinton's administration would return,” adding, “that would be a good thing.” Kerry has vowed to name Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter as Middle East envoy. The state-controlled Palestine Media Center bashed “Bush's refusal to deal with Arafat.” President Bush has said Yasser Arafat is not a worthy “partner” working for Mideast peace. Conversely, in his 1997 book The New War, John Kerry referred to Yasser Arafat as a “statesman.”
Malaysia: In a letter dated last Friday, former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad exhorted fellow Muslims to vote for John F. Kerry “in the name of Islam.” Mohamad said his co-religionists “have a duty to ensure that Bush will not be able to determine our fate for four more years…There is an obvious connection between the sufferings of the Muslims and the policies and thinking of Bush.” This is not Mohamad’s first foray into international controversy. As he prepared to step down from his 22-year-long reign as prime minister last year, he famously told the 10th Islamic Summit in Kuala Lumpur, “Jews rule the world by proxy.” (To counteract this, he has instructed Muslims to vote for John Kerry, the only ethnically Jewish candidate in the presidential race.)
Socialist Spain: As early as March, Spain’s appeasenik prime minister and Socialist Party member Jose Luis Zapatero said, “I want Kerry to win.” Zapatero told the International Herald Tribune Spain’s Socialists – the party of unilateral surrender elected after the Madrid train bombing on March 11 – were “aligning ourselves with Kerry” to build an “alliance” for “peace, against war. Zapatero, who said he favors “a dialogue between the government of Spain and the new Kerry administration,” vowed the Kerry-Socialist axis would assure there will be “no more deaths for oil.”
France: According to all reports, John Kerry is wildly popular in the land of Gaul. A recent Le Monde poll found the Francs backing John Kerry over President Bush by more than three-to-one (72 percent to 19 percent). The Financial Times quotes an unnamed “French government official” pining for the return of the Democrats to Washington and the Ba’athists to Baghdad, saying, “A lot depends on who is in power in both Washington and Baghdad. If there's change in both countries then it's possible we would re-examine our position.” (Emphasis added.) The chairman of Democrats Abroad gave the “Ich bin ein Berliner” speech of the 2004 campaign, gushing Kerry “is the closest thing that you will have to a French politician.”
Germany: The Financial Times quotes Gert Weisskirchen, the foreign policy expert for Germany’s ruling Social Democratic Party, as analyzing the presidential race thus:
I cannot imagine that there will be any change in our decision not to send troops, whoever becomes president. That said, Mr. Kerry seems genuinely committed to multilateralism and as president he would find it easier than Mr. Bush to secure the German government's backing in other matters.
Vietnam: An unnamed “Vietnamese diplomat” told the international press, “I think Vietnam would support Kerry because he has travelled many times to Vietnam and he understands better the situation here than Bush, who is a war-mongering president.” Why not? Kerry has 30 years experience negotiating with Vietnamese Communists and is immortalized in Ho Chi Minh City’s War Remnants Museum.
Others: International polls indicate the vast majority of Pakistanis, Jordanians, and Moroccans disapprove of President Bush and may be assumed to support Sen. Kerry by default.
George W. Bush
Russia: On Monday, Russian President Vladimir Putin told Russia’s RIA news agency Iraqi terrorism “aims at causing maximum damage to President Bush and to forestall his second term re-election.” He warned, “If they succeed, they would celebrate a victory against America and the anti-terror coalition, and this could lead to more acts of international terrorism.” Although Putin pledged to “respect any choice of the American people,” his comments were seen as a muted endorsement of President Bush. It seems, since mourning the tragedy of Beslan, he has discovered the wisdom of pre-emption.
Israel: Although Yasser Arafat’s Palestinian Authority favors John Kerry, the Israelis favor George W. Bush. Israel’s military intelligence chief, Major-General Aharon Ze’evi told the Israeli Cabinet he feared, “Arafat is now waiting for the month of November in the hope that President Bush will be defeated in the presidential election and turned out of his office.” Israeli citizens seem to agree. In a poll taken by the newspaper Haaretz, Israelis preferred Bush over Kerry by two-to-one. (In all, one may expect an improvement in domestic Jewish support for the president, but many American Jews remain steadfastly loyal to the Democratic Party.)
Japan: Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi divulged his support for the president last week. “I don't want to interfere in another country's election,” he said, “but I am close to President Bush so I want him to do well.” The Secretary-General of Japan’s Liberal Democratic Party, Tsutomu Takebe, told the media, “I think there would be trouble if it's not President Bush.” Takebe said Kerry’s plan for bilateral U.S.-North Korean negotiations “would be exactly what North Korea wants.”
The Philippines: Filipinos also support President Bush. “Filipinos...have a frontline appreciation of the threat posed by international terrorism,” according to political science professor Alex Magno, an adviser to President Gloria Arroyo. Over the past two decades, hundreds of Filipinos – and some Americans – have died at the hands of such al-Qaeda affiliates as Abu Sayyaf and Jamaaat Islamiya. Perhaps unsurprisingly, Magno states, “If Filipinos were voting for the American president, George W. Bush would have this election in the bag.”
South Korea: South Koreans, who have been tending toward anti-Americanism for years, remain split on the election. However, polls show the most anti-Communist segments of South Korea favor President Bush.
Two More Important Endorsements
Finally, two non-state actors have made their preferences known: al-Jazeera Television and the Communist Party USA.
Osama bin Laden’s chosen media outlet, al-Jazeera – which regularly refers to suicide bombers as “martyrs” and may have direct ties to terrorism – now hopes to refer to John Kerry as “Mr. President.” The pro-terror Mideastern network referred to John Kerry as “a popular mainstream Democrat with liberal tendencies” and noted the junior senator from Massachusetts “has suggested Bush's handling of [Iraq] is ‘f****ed up.’” Although the National Journal named Kerry the Senate’s most liberal member, al-Jazeera claimed “Kerry is well placed politically between his party's radical left and arch conservatives.” (“Arch-conservative” Democrats?) After all, the Democratic Party gave al-Jazeera a skybox at its national convention this summer.
The Communist Party USA is not foreign, although it illegally received Soviet money for decades. It, too, has cast its lot with John Kerry. The CPUSA lists as election priority number one that Communists do their “utmost to help defeat Bush.” The communist website dedicates an entire page of internal articles to anti-Bush propaganda. Echoing John Kerry (or is it the other way around?), the Communist Party USA decries the “well-financed campaign to weaken and destroy the impact of the African American vote.” Similarly, on September 11th of this year, Kerry told the Congressional Black Caucus, “We are not going to stand by and allow another million African American votes to go uncounted in this election.” The rhetorical similarities no doubt account for the CPUSA’s silent endorsement.
Conclusions
In all, it appears those nations most opposed to the War on Terrorism – including the remaining two members of the Axis of Evil – endorse the foreign policies of the Left, which they see embodied in the person of John Kerry. On the other hand, those nations historically friendly to the United States back President George W. Bush. It is significant that those nations under the greatest terrorist threat – Russia, the Philippines, Israel and (if one counts nuclear threats from North Korea) Japan – all favor the aggressive policy of taking the war to the terrorists pursued by the Bush administration. If we do not wish to share their peril, we would do well to heed their advice to reject the discredited, defeatist foreign policies of the Left.
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10-26-2004, 01:08 PM
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#4973
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
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So, does this mean the NYT is helping a foreign entity overthrow our government?
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I don't see it as being in the best interests of the IAEA staff, or consistent with its past behavior, to concoct information and publicly lie in an effort to embarass the single most powerful member of the U.N. Security Council to which it reports.
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Seven days before our election? You don't see it?
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10-26-2004, 01:14 PM
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#4974
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Survivor Island
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Shades of Joe Biden
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Has W ever written anything? For that matter, has he ever read anything?
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Although Bush may not be the most literate president we've ever had, I am confident that he could copy well.
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10-26-2004, 01:15 PM
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#4975
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Survivor Island
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Is this the October Surprise?
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
If you strip the story and the quote of everything but the one point you wish to make, you're absolutely right. Its inconsistent.
OK. Kerry met with "some" instead of "all". You got him. He invented the Internet. Call Zogby and tell him its over.
S_A_M
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So you are saying he misspoke? Or was this another one of his exagerations?
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10-26-2004, 01:16 PM
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#4976
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
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So, does this mean the NYT is helping a foreign entity overthrow our government?
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Has the Iraqi interim government said this?
I don't see it as being in the best interests of the IAEA staff, or consistent with its past behavior, to concoct information and publicly lie in an effort to embarass the single most powerful member of the U.N. Security Council to which it reports.
Think about it.
S_A_M
P.S. Or, it is more likely that right-wing bloggers are making shit up, or at best, getting ahead of themselves?
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This is rich. The NYT rushes with a false story a week before the election, which is then picked up by the rest of the left leaning liberal media, and the right wing bloggers are getting ahead of themselves?
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10-26-2004, 01:18 PM
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#4977
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 12,057
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Sorry, I have to do all my posting for the day fast
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Originally posted by bilmore
The Axis of Evil Endorsement
By Ben Johnson
FrontPageMagazine.com | October 22, 2004
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Looks like the Axis of Evil is falling in line with world opinion, which overwhelmingly favors Kerry.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...hneider.world/
Over the summer, University of Maryland researchers asked citizens of 35 countries how they would vote between Bush and Kerry. The result? 30 of the 35 voted for Kerry.
Kerry won all but one European country polled.
A Bush campaign official once said Kerry "looks French." Apparently, the French were impressed. They gave Kerry a 59-point lead. Only 5 percent of the French voted for Bush.
What about the Bush administration's closest ally, Britain? Not even close. The British favored Kerry by over 30 points.
The exception was Poland, which Bush carried by a narrow margin.
How about America's neighbors? Canadians went for Kerry by 45 points. Mexicans by 20.
In Asia, Kerry carried China, Japan and Indonesia. Only the Philippines, a former American colony fighting its own Muslim insurrection, went for Bush. In India and Thailand, the race was close. Swing countries?
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10-26-2004, 01:19 PM
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#4978
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
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So, does this mean the NYT is helping a foreign entity overthrow our government?
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Originally posted by sgtclub
This is rich. The NYT rushes with a false story a week before the election, which is then picked up by the rest of the left leaning liberal media, and the right wing bloggers are getting ahead of themselves?
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See, even though this comprised the bulk of Kerry's speeches yesterday, it should now be carefully thought through, and sources should be vetted, and the ultimate truth should be found.
Next Wednesday.
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10-26-2004, 01:19 PM
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
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So, does this mean the NYT is helping a foreign entity overthrow our government?
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bilmore
"... The IAEA and its head, the anti-American Mohammed El Baradei, leaked a false letter on this issue to the media to embarrass the Bush administration."
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He's merely trying to get a jump on the competition for the 2005 Nobel Prize.
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10-26-2004, 01:19 PM
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Shades of Joe Biden
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Although Bush may not be the most literate president we've ever had, I am confident that he could copy well.
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I'm not sure about that, but I'm sure he could stay inside the lines and possibly even use all 64 colors.
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