Politics: A new beginning

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
If someone is going to rise here in defense of the heckler's veto, you seem as likely a candidate as anyone else.

In fairness, though, understand that Franken would probably write a whole new book about jackbooted thugs if a Bush supporter had done that.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Not Me
Anyone else see the irony in Al claiming the First Amendment made him do that?

Minor point, but there's a difference between the First Amendment and freedom of speech. It's the same kind of difference as exists between "too many men on the field" and "fair play."

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Minor point, but there's a difference between the First Amendment and freedom of speech. It's the same kind of difference as exists between "too many men on the field" and "fair play."

Minor point, but where was the state action?

Anyone else see the irony in Al Franken writing a book entitled "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot"?

[SlaveNoMore]

Not Me
Minor point, but where was the state action?

Anyone else see the irony in Al Franken writing a book entitled "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot"?

No, because Al Franken is short.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
No, because Al Franken is short.

I was thinking the whole story had to be a phony to get his ass back in the press, and make him seem less wimpy. What was missing? That little fuck comes at me when I'm heckling Dean, he's going back with more than rumpled glasses. Well not me, because I'm a chicken hawk, but the generic political protester would kick his ass.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I was thinking the whole story had to be a phony to get his ass back in the press, and make him seem less wimpy. What was missing? That little fuck comes at me when I'm heckling Dean, he's going back with more than rumpled glasses. Well not me, because I'm a chicken hawk, but the generic political protester would kick his ass.

Well, he DID tackle the guy from behind.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
If someone is going to rise here in defense of the heckler's veto, you seem as likely a candidate as anyone else.

I see myself as less of a heckler and more of a sporadic participant who often lobs zingers.

[bilmore]

Kerry 36, Dean 31, Edwards 12, Clark 12

[Not Me]

Originally posted by bilmore
Kerry 36, Dean 31, Edwards 12, Clark 12

Interesting in that the media may have over-hyped Edwards this time as they over-hyped Dean last time.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by bilmore
Kerry 36, Dean 31, Edwards 12, Clark 12

Wait, the crowd of Dunkin Donuts' consumers won't get out of work for a few more hours. don't count clark out yet.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by bilmore
In fairness, though, understand that Franken would probably write a whole new book about jackbooted thugs if a Bush supporter had done that.

As S_A_M knows, you just can't resist attacking people for what you think they would probably say.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
As S_A_M knows, you just can't resist attacking people for what you think they would probably say.

Or maybe he can't resist making a joke or two.

Lighten up, Francis.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
As S_A_M knows, you just can't resist attacking people for what you think they would probably say.

Periodically, I stop and think to myself "Ty's going to say something inane", and then you always do, so my track record's pretty good.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Not Me
Interesting in that the media may have over-hyped Edwards this time as they over-hyped Dean last time.

No one said he would win. They may have overstated or given a misimpression of his likely results -- but the bottom-line is Edwards did not have enough time to really build on his Iowa results in NH. He had done relatively little in the State before Iowa (why would he think he could compete with Dean or Kerry in a New England state that borders their home states?). Onw eek gap wasn't enough. Even this week -- he focused part of his attention on South Carolina, because the South is still the key to his strategy.

Even so -- IIRC Edwards was polling in the mid-to high single digits in NH before Iowa. Thus, even these early results reflect a 50% bump in one week.

I wonder when Lieberman will withdraw. So much for Joementum. An almost complete lack of charisma does ultimately trump substance in Presidential politics. (That and he is probably just too conservative for the primary crowd).

S_A_M

[ETA: Third Place is a nice success for Edwards in NH -- and all he needs. Fourth might be just a touch disappointing now that expectations have been raised.]

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by bilmore
In fairness, though, understand that Franken would probably write a whole new book about jackbooted thugs if a Bush supporter had done that.

Yep. And Limbaugh would probably sell his autographed gift edition of the book to fund his drug habit.

On the substance -- I can't see how/why Franken or others got away with clubbing a guy if they weren't working security. Or why he thought it was right. The folks just needed to be frog-marched out. If the folks weren't LaRouche supporters, he might have been in big trouble. As it is -- no one will care.

S_A_M