The babyjesuschristsuperstar on Board: filling the moral void of Clinton’s legacy

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
McKinney is a well-known far left nutcase who plays the race card at every opportunity.

She was wrong, and I'd be happy if she resigned. [But she has never had the power to be as corrupt as Delay. Hehe]

S_A_M

My bet is it's stuff like this that keeps her in office. After all, everyone seems to spell her name right.

But, still, today is the day to celebrate DeLay. The McKinnies, Rummies and Roves will have their day another time.


You know it makes me want to SHOUT!
Kick my heels up and SHOUT!
Throw my hands up and SHOUT!
Throw my head back and SHOUT!
Come on now SHOUT!

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
i bet the capitol Police have greater turn over and new guards than does your courthouse, so your Judge has a great right to indignation.

It's not clear when she showed her id. If he grabbed her after she showed it, then the cop has no excuse. But did she lead with the phone, rather than the ID?

As for courthouses, they typically have one or two secured entrances. Maybe 3 or 4? Congress has dozens of entrances. Each house office building has 2-3 public entrances, as well as others. And with 435 members, that's a lot of faces to keep track of, particularly when you don't see someone regularly (and they change their hair).

Is it worth debating much? No--I think the reason anyone cares is a) she allegedly hit the cop and b) she turned it immediately into a racial issue.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
It's not clear when she showed her id. If he grabbed her after she showed it, then the cop has no excuse. But did she lead with the phone, rather than the ID?

As for courthouses, they typically have one or two secured entrances. Maybe 3 or 4? Congress has dozens of entrances. Each house office building has 2-3 public entrances, as well as others. And with 435 members, that's a lot of faces to keep track of, particularly when you don't see someone regularly (and they change their hair).

Is it worth debating much? No--I think the reason anyone cares is a) she allegedly hit the cop and b) she turned it immediately into a racial issue.

If she were Tom DeLay, she would blame The Media and Liberal Democrats.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
If she were Tom DeLay, she would blame The Media and Liberal Democrats.

Is she were tom delay she would annouce she is not running for reelection, and put her funds towards her legal defense.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Is she were tom delay she would annouce she is not running for reelection, and put her funds towards her legal defense.

And here's the difference. She'll raise a separate legal defense fund while also raising more money toward reelection. Obviously, playing the race card pulls votes in her district. It's not that different from Bush pulling the patriotism card nationally - no substance, downright embarassing when you think about it, but, hey, it gets votes.

And --

CELEBRATE - Good Times!

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Dimwit. Let me explain. ...
You. Miss. The. Point.

W-A-T-E-R

Hank, I think I met a relative of yours recently. Let me explain.

Sometimes during holiday season, I help our local church group sell Xmas trees. It's usually a good enough gig, as people are in good spirits that time of year, and you're selling what the people who come on the lot really want to buy.

One evening (I think only a couple of days before Xmas), I was helping a particularly grumpy fellow who pulled up in his SUV and started examining the trees on the lot. He comes to me and says, "That one right there for $75 -- how long has it been cut?"

Well, sir, I'm about 6'4" on the internet, and discounting about 4 inches for the top of my head, I think this tree comes up to my eyes, so I'd say it's about 6 foot.

"No, no, you don't understand. I'm asking you how long..."

Sure, yes sir. Like I'm saying, you might have another inch or so, 'cause I'm wearing boots today. So let's call it 6'1".

"No, dammit, I'm not asking about that. How long has it been cut?"

Well, like I say, it probably tops out at 6'1", but I really wouldn't go any longer than that, unless you want to count the height added by the tree stand.

"Nevermind, you idiot. I don't have time to discuss this anymore. Look, I'll take it. Here's the money."

We got the tree loaded onto the top of his Detroit-manufactured SUV, and as he got into the car, he looked back at me and snarled, "You are one real dimwit, you know that?"

There's a rejoinder to this, Hank. PM me the answer you think might be coming, and I'll know for sure if this guy was your brother, or if he was just a pretender to the throne.

Gattigap

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
It doesn't. But the problem with arguning about DeLay is that no one here has ever defended him. Hell, spankster tried to run him out. So if you want to fight about Delay, you'll have to hope Penske comes back with a sock to argue back.

My point is that you guys, in contrast, cannot get your lips around the words "I agree this Democrat was wrong." GGG is the only one of you with any integrity.

McKinney was wrong to throw her cell phone at a security officer.


But this is still completely, utterly irrelevant to Delay. It is simple "hey, look over there!" argument.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I think she's an idiot, shouldn't have done it, and she should apologize. I think that her arrest and subsequent 20 hours of community service or whatever she ends up serving will probably make up for the crime and I think that the Capitol / Congressional / whoever they are Police should probably start watching Stephen Colbert's 434 part series "Better Know a District" so they can identify representatives on sight.

A better question would be, why are we falling for Hank's bullshit?

eta: The whole point of the "well, what about McKinney" comment is to distract from the discussion of Delay. It's the fallacy that a simple, stupid incident like this is anywhere near comparable to Delay's pervasive, premeditated abuses of power.

It's similar to the way Hank and his compadres always sputter "Clinton... monica.. perjury... blow job" in response to any discussion about Bush's twisting of intelligence to drum up support for the invasion he'd already decided on.

It's also Club's bullshit, so I won't give Hank all the credit.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Is she were tom delay she would annouce she is not running for reelection, and put her funds towards her legal defense.

So you're calling her stupid?


Racist fuck.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I wasn't specifically referring to NotBob, just the excuses that are generally floating out there in the media. Sorry NB.

No problemo, club.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Dimwit. Let me explain. My original post wasn't trying to equate this fine Congresswoman's actions with Delay's. i was merely wanting to create a Penske-like excuse to bring up Clinton's impeachment. so when you start arguing logically (at your level- but still) about my post I admit you might win some points. It's like when Spank makes some absurdly unsupportable statement and digs in- you all argue with him like he actually means it.

You. Miss. The. Point.

I know that this is what you do, but I think you misunderestimate Spanky.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
And here's the difference. She'll raise a separate legal defense fund while also raising more money toward reelection. Obviously, playing the race card pulls votes in her district. It's not that different from Bush pulling the patriotism card nationally - no substance, downright embarassing when you think about it, but, hey, it gets votes.

And --

CELEBRATE - Good Times!

Question is, when does Jesse Jackson get involved? That's the sign of a scandal to care about.

(although I suppose the capitol police don't have enough of a slush fund make it worth his while.)

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I know that this is what you do, but I think you misunderestimate Spanky.

You think spanky is sincere in the stuff he posts? i guess you'd have to since you tend to argue with more than anyone else- always being shocked by how far out he goes.


But like you say, let's keep the argument on Delay. I think he has nice hair- do you want to argue about that?

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
You think spanky is sincere in the stuff he posts? i guess you'd have to since you tend to argue with more than anyone else- always being shocked by how far out he goes.


But like you say, let's keep the argument on Delay. I think he has nice hair- do you want to argue about that?

Is the question whether or not he has better hair than the hair on your current avatar? Maybe you could have a Tom Delay Commemorative Avatar mocked up?

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
It's also Club's bullshit

I've got no dog in Delay's fight.