Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Montana would be huge, but all of the extra, hot-button, race stuff made the OJ trial tremendous.

I doubt it. I really doubt interest would've been any lower if OJ had killed a pretty black woman.

And as for crackers being overwhelmingly against OJ. A fair number are more misogynist than racist.

E.g., one on the radio, "Nicole didn't give OJ no choice, cheating on him like that."

"Well, she had gotten a divorce."

"Bitch had it coming."

Originally posted by robustpuppy

No, my next screen name, should I choose to invent one, will contain the word empress or princess or chick or babe or hottie or sexpot or vavoom or classylady or something similar, so that I convey a sexy image, not an ambiguously-gendered one.

atomic kitty

Or, keeping with your music theme, sub pop kitty

[tmdiva]

Hooray!!!!! Josh the constipated Marine goes home. Won't miss him a bit.

tm

[evenodds]

Originally posted by tmdiva
Hooray!!!!! Josh the constipated Marine goes home. Won't miss him a bit.

tm

He was awful and it was more than time for him to go.

The big question is . . . who's next?

I would have to guess that Ruben and Clay go through and Kim Locke will end in the Nikki McKibbin spot.

Last year, I thought Justin would win it all on the strength of the pre-teen girl vote. I was surprised when Kelly won (and I admit I voted for her).

This year, I'd think Clay would win on the strength of the pre-teen (and barely_legal) vote. So, maybe people will get off the sofas and give Ruben the win . . .

[barely_legal]

Originally posted by evenodds
He was awful and it was more than time for him to go.

The big question is . . . who's next?

I would have to guess that Ruben and Clay go through and Kim Locke will end in the Nikki McKibbin spot.

Last year, I thought Justin would win it all on the strength of the pre-teen girl vote. I was surprised when Kelly won (and I admit I voted for her).

This year, I'd think Clay would win on the strength of the pre-teen (and barely_legal) vote. So, maybe people will get off the sofas and give Ruben the win . . .

I think you'd be surprised how many non-preteen (and non-me) people like Clay. He's my mother's favorite, and has a large fan base of women of all ages. I'm not sure that he has a male fanbase at all, but then again I don't think that most of the voting is being done by men. Which explains why most of the women (especially the somewhat trampy ones) left early.

At this point both Ruben and Clay are going to get record deals, I bet, so I'm not worried about either of them (it might be better for their careers not to win -- see Tamyra Gray). Kim Locke is in the most danger of actually having to go back to a real life after this is over (poor Kim will actually have to study for those LSATs now).

Originally posted by evenodds
He was awful and it was more than time for him to go.

The big question is . . . who's next?

I would have to guess that Ruben and Clay go through and Kim Locke will end in the Nikki McKibbin spot.

Last year, I thought Justin would win it all on the strength of the pre-teen girl vote. I was surprised when Kelly won (and I admit I voted for her).

This year, I'd think Clay would win on the strength of the pre-teen (and barely_legal) vote. So, maybe people will get off the sofas and give Ruben the win . . .

It sort of amazes me how many parents let their 12 year old daughters (and sons) make phone call after phone call when they should probably be in bed. It also sort of amazes me how man people appear to have an affinity for showtunes and cheezy ballads. I guess this explains the success of Chicago, Branson and cruise ships. Hopefully the grownups will realize true quality, genius interpretations of songs and talent that should last for a decades long career that hopefully wont end at age 39 with a heartattack and vote for Ruben. If anyone has the talent, genius, charisma and originality to win, it is he. Kim Locke is fabulous on a good day but not consistent. Ruben and Clay are the very definition of consistent. If she is "on" next week, she has a chance- I think there are a lot of people voting for her out there.

But would america allow two black finalists? Is fox gonna rig things so we have a boy-girl finale? that fox attempted to float a beard in Carmen for Clay (an underage mormon- how perfect for Clay! He would never have to bang her) was weird. But a Clay, Kim final two would be grossly unjust. And I would hate to miss the opportunity to see a musical called From Clay to Ruben With Love.

[evenodds]

Originally posted by barely_legal
I think you'd be surprised how many non-preteen (and non-me) people like Clay. He's my mother's favorite, and has a large fan base of women of all ages. I'm not sure that he has a male fanbase at all . . .

It's okay that you like Clay. He has a wonderful voice and he would do well to follow Frenchie to Broadway.

(She just signed a 6 mo. contract for Rent.)

I think it will be a tight race between the two, if it goes to Ruben and Clay. If it goes to either and Kim L, she is toast.

Originally posted by PaigowAnd I would hate to miss the opportunity to see a musical called From Clay to Ruben With Love.

I would definitely pay top-dollar for that. They should be sure to include the BeeGees medley from last night. Oh, and speaking of the BeeGees, why did they not sing any of the great songs from last night during the two song competition?

Even(my mother is a Ruuuuuuuben fan)Odds

[leagleaze]

My mother and I rarely discuss television, but one day out of the blue she asked me about AI. I had seen bits and pieces of it so I told her what I knew. She told me she couldn't believe how awful everyone was (my mom was something of a singer in her youth.) I realized that she had seen one of the early shows where they were showing who they had cut and told her so.

She mentioned it to me again maybe a week or two later, and I learned on that day, that my mother is Barely's sock.

Oh the humanity.

Originally posted by evenodds
It's okay that you like Clay. He has a wonderful voice and he would do well to follow Frenchie to Broadway.

(She just signed a 6 mo. contract for Rent.)

I think it will be a tight race between the two, if it goes to Ruben and Clay. If it goes to either and Kim L, she is toast.



I would definitely pay top-dollar for that. They should be sure to include the BeeGees medley from last night. Oh, and speaking of the BeeGees, why did they not sing any of the great songs from last night during the two song competition?

Even(my mother is a Ruuuuuuuben fan)Odds

I cant believe that there is anyone not in the 0 to 18 or 10 to 34 market watching this show. Do not tell me your mother called in. But at least the woman has taste.

I am needing to hear Ruben sing Nights on Broadway again. That was so, so good. I always liked that song but he out beegeed the bee gees. Perhaps, in From Clay to Ruben With Love, Ruben can be invited backstage by Clay to Clay's broadway premier Clay can sing some godawful Elton John ballad about how much he loves Ruben and then Ruben can sing back "nights on broadway" to explain why he is there. Then Clay can sing "dont let the sun go down on me". It would be a sad sad movie about unrequited love.

[robustpuppy]

I tried to watch this last night but could not bear the ceaseless commercial breaks and the bullshit manufactured suspense. Since y'all are such fans of the singers and actually look forward to the music, doesn't that crap make you want to reach through the TV and strangle Ryan Seacrest?

This nonsuspense (plus the constant use of such phrases as "the bond between him/her and I," "the bond between s/he and I," and "the bond between s/he and myself") also takes the bachelor/ette series over the line from amusingly stupid to unbearable. Oh, those tense moments while we look from one bachelor/ette to another, wondering which one will get the remaining rose. My heart can't take it!

Is anybody else totally fucking tired of "cliffhangers"? Damn that J.R.

[barely_legal]

Is anyone planning to watch either of these? At first I was horrified at the thought of American Juniors, but then I realized that the first episodes, where they show the tryouts, will have to be hilarious given how insane stage moms are, so I will tivo them. Of course, after watching the first episodes, if I'm not completely bored I will probably fall in love with one of the stupid little snots and be forced to watch the rest of the season.

As for the dog pageant thing, I will do what I did with The Family. That means I will record it, but somebody here has to watch it first and tell me if it's worth seeing before I actually commit to watching it. I'm counting on you people, don't let me down.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
I think you're misunderstanding what I mean by "concern for others." Not believing anyone can see into the soul of another, I don't give a crap about whether it actually cares about how you feel or not, I care only about behavior. I never said they don't have their own distinct personalities. However, whatever its innate personality, when it screams at 3 am, you just tell me how much concern it is showing for you, other than its concern for making you do what it wants. However it is born, it has to LEARN that its desires are not reason to wake somebody else up in the middle of the night. Or, at least, eventually it learns that it isn't effective, and you get "concern for others" in behavior if not in sentiment.

Can you blame me for misunderstanding? What you've said, basically, is that little babies cry when they need something because they haven't learned how to communicate on anything more than the most basic level. I thought this was understood.

As far as you not caring about whether a child (why discuss babies? what's the point?) cares about how you feel, I don't get it. If you want well behaved children, a concern and understanding for how others feel and how their actions affect those feelings makes for well behaved kids. Of course, you can have well behaved children or adults who don't give a shit about anything or anyone, but I doubt this actually occurs in nature too often.

TM

[evenodds]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
I tried to watch this last night but could not bear the ceaseless commercial breaks and the bullshit manufactured suspense. Since y'all are such fans of the singers and actually look forward to the music, doesn't that crap make you want to reach through the TV and strangle Ryan Seacrest?

I like the commercials and the campy nonsense, so I can flip over to the playoffs, make dinner, and have a conversation with the OM and know I am not missing anything.

Three minutes of content in thirty minutes of time . . . perfect!

Even(go spurs!)Odds

[barely_legal]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
I tried to watch this last night but could not bear the ceaseless commercial breaks and the bullshit manufactured suspense. Since y'all are such fans of the singers and actually look forward to the music, doesn't that crap make you want to reach through the TV and strangle Ryan Seacrest?

This nonsuspense (plus the constant use of such phrases as "the bond between him/her and I," "the bond between s/he and I," and "the bond between s/he and myself") also takes the bachelor/ette series over the line from amusingly stupid to unbearable. Oh, those tense moments while we look from one bachelor/ette to another, wondering which one will get the remaining rose. My heart can't take it!

Is anybody else totally fucking tired of "cliffhangers"? Damn that J.R.

Why would you watch AI for the first time on an elimination night when they are not actually competing against each other? And honestly, at this stage of the series, I doubt you are going to enjoy it like us retarded diehard fans b/c you haven't invested the time into watching it and suffering through the agonies of the crappy camera whores and diva-impersonators, most of whom are gone now. The way AI works for me is that I start watching it so that I can hate people because hating people on tv and wanting bad things to happen to them is fun. But somewhere along the way I accidentally start liking someone and end up watching to see them succeed.

You will only be able to get into AI now if you really hate someone who is left.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by barely_legal
Why would you watch AI for the first time on an elimination night when they are not actually competing against each other?

I have actually seen snippets of the show before -- on one of the audition nights, and on the night when Paula had just gotten her upper lip injected and Simon was mocking her for it and the cameraman wouldn't shoot any close-ups of her. But somehow I never seemed to catch it when there was any singing going on.