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Old 05-08-2003, 02:19 PM   #5071
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Not a fan of big blowhole bellybuttons...
It's only fair that her other orifices get a break from their overexposure.
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Old 05-08-2003, 02:26 PM   #5072
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Christina?

She looks remarkably better than she has in the past few weeks, especially since her GLAAD awards nadir.

Now, she seems to be buying clothes that fit her new body and the hair is much better.
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Old 05-08-2003, 02:28 PM   #5073
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Question Christina?

Are you saying those clothes fit her? Hmmm. At least this week she has eyebrows.
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Old 05-08-2003, 02:29 PM   #5074
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Not a fan of big blowhole bellybuttons...
Maybe, but in a volatile, uncertain, and ever-changing world, isn't it a comfort to be able to rely on the knowledge that no matter what, Christina, in whatever grotesque incarnation, will always have the fashion sensibility of a down-on-her-luck Times Square ho?

God love her, the poor little thing.
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Old 05-08-2003, 02:30 PM   #5075
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pic of Xtina
Not a fan of big blowhole bellybuttons...
Jesus Christ. That may not be a look I find attractive (or maybe I do), but she don't look fat in that pic.
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Old 05-08-2003, 02:32 PM   #5076
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Not a fan of big blowhole bellybuttons...
I confess to not watching a lot of TV and so not being too current with today's . . . culture, I guess . . . but, is this a pic of someone who is known as a beauty these days?
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Old 05-08-2003, 02:38 PM   #5077
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I confess to not watching a lot of TV and so not being too current with today's . . . culture, I guess . . . but, is this a pic of someone who is known as a beauty these days?
She's a pop tart who was rumored to be pregnant because of her inexplicable career-threatening weight gain.

She continued to wear the same clothes as they became tighter and tighter across her belly. Her new pants do seem to fit her and she no longer looks like there is a rather large bun in the oven.
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Old 05-08-2003, 02:38 PM   #5078
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So, I'm watching a close game between the Wild and the Canucks last night, and am interrupted somewhere in the second period. When I turn the game back on, it's 5-1. WTF?

That being said, the Wild are clearly a team that will not go away. Let's see if they can win game 7, and come back twice in a row from being down 3 games to 1 (and it would be intriguing to see them play the Devils in the finals -- former coach, revenge, yada yada yada).

Anyway, the Wild are starting to grow on me. The Ducks had me when the beat the Red Wings in their first game. And the Senators are fun to watch.

So, both conference finals should be quite entertaining.
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Old 05-08-2003, 02:39 PM   #5079
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Jesus Christ. That may not be a look I find attractive (or maybe I do), but she don't look fat in that pic.
No, she's thinner. The contrast on the page I orginally viewed the pic made it appear that her bellybutton was cavernous (it was darker)...
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Old 05-08-2003, 02:45 PM   #5080
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She's a pop tart who was rumored to be pregnant because of her inexplicable career-threatening weight gain.
She still does look pretty tiny, just not a size 0 any more.

Glad she's not pregnant. I'd hate to see how she'd dress the little rugrat if it were a girl.

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Old 05-08-2003, 02:49 PM   #5081
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Wrapped things up nicely last night. It was a half-decent ending if the series doesn't get renewed, and plenty of plot potential if it does. That's a tough trick to pull.

Without spoiling anything, I'd say I really wish they'd done it to Fred instead, to put us out of our misery. But I can see why it was necessary to do in order to open up more potential for next season.

I'm also glad they gave a part to the guy who played the smarmy psych student vampire from Buffy. That guy rocked in the one episode he was on. I still chuckle over the "I'm here to kill you, not to judge you" line.
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Old 05-08-2003, 02:53 PM   #5082
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I think the racial aspect of the outrage was overplayed, right into OJ's team's hands - money had bought him a great theatrical team which was able to convince a jury that race was a factor, when it was really just about the evidence.
I think the real damage, if that is the right word, of that, though, was that all the TV viewers at home saw OJ's team's theatrics, too, and bought it just as much as (they assumed) the jury did, so the acquital was all about race and not about ... well, money. (And the inability of the court and DA's office to function under the intense pressure of the media scrutiny, where the media-hound defense was much more at home, but that's less interesting.)

I think part of the general freak-out was really displacement of pretty common American money issues. I mean, the whole society is sort of premised on the idea that "if you work for it you get it" and the corrollary "if you got it, you deserved it." Except for the people who don't deserve it, and money isn't everything, and all of that. Money is imbued with strong and conflicting moral judgments here. I think people were very uncomfortable with the idea that this guy, who was a beloved figure, who earned his fame and money by excelling at what he did and through his own charm, and who therefore by most people's lights clearly earned and deserved everything he had, would turn that into a club with which to corrupt the US legal system. This guy wasn't the evil corporate fat-cat (their money is always corrupting, of course), this guy was the all-American sports hero who did good and deserved what he had. I think a lot of people just couldn't deal with that in the context of a big-money trial, because it would make them think too hard about their assumptions about what money and success mean, and the ways they assign moral meaning to them.

People in this country imbue money with a huge amount of moral meaning, but the whole unspoken belief system about money here is pretty clearly silly and unsupportable. So anything that requires us to look at it too carefully causes a huge amount of stress because it so obviously can't stand scrutiny, but it is so vital to most people's unconscious understanding of how the world works. I think a lot of people had some need to see that (i) well-earned money doesn't corrupt (OJ, he must be innocent), and also that (ii) money can't corrupt (the legal system, he must be found guilty), all at the same time. Of course, this issue comes up every day, whether the guy in the dock is rich or destitute, but most people never before had to confront it in a way that shows up the idiocy of their beliefs about money. On OJ, nigh on EVERYONE had an opinion, no matter how uninformed or how little reason you had to care. Race just doesn't do that in this country anymore; only money does. But everyone clung to the race idea and transferred all of the anxiety the situation gave them there, because it was less painful than confronting the money idea.

Or, as I think is the case in many instances, I think the "race" freak out with the OJ verdict was a displaced money/economic power freak out. But if all the bad feeling and sense of social discomfort that the trial caused is mistaken for racial tension, making everybody nerveous and suspicious of each because of racial differences, when they should really be thinking about what the whole thing said about economic differences.

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Old 05-08-2003, 03:00 PM   #5083
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For you Creed "fans"

From the National Law Journal

VOIR DIRE

By Gail Diane Cox

Concert's called uniquely awful

Four rock fans who claim to represent the interests of 15,000 told a court in Chicago that when they paid $50-plus each to hear Creed last December, they assumed they would be attending a performance-"including the lyrics."

But the proposed class action says lead singer Scott Stapp was so high that he "was unable to sing the lyrics of a single Creed song" and did things like disappearing from the stage for 10 minutes at a time. The fans are represented by Daniel J. Voelker of Chicago's Freeborn & Peters.

Before the "constructive nonperformance" suit was filed, Creed sent a mass letter to fans acknowledging their evening may have fallen short. The letter reassured everyone that Stapp is "taking a much needed break" but didn't mention a refund or a second show.

"We hope," it said, "that you can take some solace in the fact that you definitely experienced the most unique of all Creed shows and may have become part of the unusual world of rock 'n' roll history!"

Or not.

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Old 05-08-2003, 03:01 PM   #5084
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch Without spoiling anything, I'd say I really wish they'd done it to Fred instead, to put us out of our misery.
What "it" should they have done to Fred? I'm confused and I watched the show. Do you mean what happened to Gunn?
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Old 05-08-2003, 03:03 PM   #5085
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I thought it was a pretty good episode too. I liked how they wrapped it up. I'll hold off discussing it for those who have not yet seen the show.
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