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Old 05-24-2004, 01:04 PM   #496
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It also doesn't address the biases of the people who own the media. If you assume that the liberal biases of journalists matter, you should assume the same about the biases of publishers and major corporations, who would have to be acting pretty irrationally to let their employees use their capital to spread lefty messages.
This statement assumes all newspapers and media outlets write their own news. Of course, this was never true, but more recently becomes far less true. My local paper has almost zero original content for National or Int'l news. Even if the owners cared to intervene in content, the eccomonics or using other news sources would destroy the concern getting anywhere.
don't you watch the Simpson's?
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Old 05-24-2004, 01:07 PM   #497
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This statement assumes all newspapers and media outlets write their own news.
No it doesn't, but thanks for playing.

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Old 05-24-2004, 01:15 PM   #498
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http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1000517184
Take a note from FOX News (no word yet on whether they're supposed to put that in quotes) about how to do a piece on liberal bias in the media: You decide to write the story, and then you hunt for an expert to say something in support of what you've already decided to say:

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CAN YOU VALIDATE MY PRECONCEPTIONS? PLEASE? Get a load of this request from Fox News' Elisa Cho, posted to ProfNet, a site I wasn't familiar with but is apparently a great place for journalists looking for "expert" quotes for their pieces. Pittsburgh Tribune-Review writer Dave Copeland has the deets on his Web site:
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    TODAY/EDUCATION: LIBERAL BIAS AT COLLEGES - FOX NEWS CHANNEL (US)
    I'm looking for academic "experts" who can speak about the "liberal bias" at college campuses and/or the dominance of liberal professors at colleges. I prefer someone who has written a book about this topic. No phone calls, please.
    Need leads by 03:00 PM US/Eastern MAY 20
    Monitored by eWatch
    Elisa Cho elisa.cho@foxnews.com
It looks like the famed National Review reporting method -- the "bleg" -- has spread to other conservative outfits. Copeland promises more examples.
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Old 05-24-2004, 01:16 PM   #499
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Take a note from FOX News (no word yet on whether they're supposed to put that in quotes) about how to do a piece on liberal bias in the media: You decide to write the story, and then you hunt for an expert to say something in support of what you've already decided to say:
did she use Harvard stationary and claim to be working for the school?
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Old 05-24-2004, 01:18 PM   #500
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Club --

(a) Interesting, but these numbers are no big shock. I'd bet the numbers are lower than 10-20 years ago. Anyway, don't you really mean that a disproportionate number of those who work in the "media" business consider themselves liberal as compared to the general population?

(b) As a second point -- here we have the market at work. Doesn't this really mean that you conservatives need to get on the stick to balance those numbers out ? Stop complaining and do something (which some are)? Convince your conservative friends of the value of ideas and/or the nobility of a life spent reporting the news, monitoring the government and protecting the little guy's right to know.

Or is this imbalance impossible to resolve because your garden-variety conservative either (i) lacks the requisite literacy to work as a journalist or (ii) is too damn greedy to accept the low salaries? Just an innocent question.

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Look, I don’t care what all of these fancy schmancy biased polls show, I just call it as I see it and the truth is that its hard to tell who Freedom’s worse enemy is, the radical Islamofacists or the godlessly communistic morally equivocating journalists. Maybe it’s a tie.

They both decry Freedom’s promise that we as a nation should be free to think, speak, or act for yourself as long as we don't infringe on no other in the process. They substitute this god-given right with the paternalism of the Big Brother Socialistic Government Machine. Tax and spend. Tax and spend.

Forgetting about their terrorist comrades for a minute the bottom line is that modern day mass mediated journalism is just porn with people wearing clothes. This Fourth Estate is in disrepair, not informing the public but instead acting the clown for its amusement with stories about flatulent pets, freaks in trees and pie eating contests. The ignorant masses are left knowing a snippet of many things but nothing about any one of them and in turn they rattle meaningless slogans and impressionistic witticisms like they are were ivory tower intellectoids. “W is dumya”. “Where’s the beef?” “there is vast right wing conspiracy”……..etc.

Critical thinking had died and we need look no further than the leftwingers on this board for proof.
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Was this silly message formally approved by the Kerry campaign?

I cannot start having my moderators running afoul of the FEC.
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Old 05-24-2004, 01:20 PM   #502
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did she use Harvard stationary and claim to be working for the school?
If she could get her hands on Harvard stationary, what would she be doing at FOX?

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Old 05-24-2004, 01:28 PM   #503
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Why didn't this get 1/100th of the press coverage that the "US attacks wedding"? Or the purported "child with head blown off"

Talk about a free pass.

This is exactly the exact same thing I thought and am still thinking since I first heard about this story.

What's most interesting to me about this whole mideast media mess is that with all the flack the US is getting re: killing some celebratory terrorists that the media doesn't hold the Pali "freedom fighters" responsible for deliberately targetting Israeli children for murder or for using their own sons and daughters as combustibles. Once again the liberal journalist-terrorist axis of evil is exposed.

Another thought, I often find when reading the CSM or watching FOXNews cover the Pali terrorist insurrections is that there are an inordinate number of Palestinian men and boys in Gaza and the West Bank who seem to do nothing more than fill the streets in disorderly and treasonous protest. Are there no work houses there? After all, idle hands are the demon-Allah's work shop. Further, in an paradoxical dichotomy all of these protesting Palis look well nourished and clothed. All of which leads to me to ask,

Just who is supporting this terrorism? The Eurosocialists? The Saudis? The DNC? Thottam? Findlaw?
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Old 05-24-2004, 01:32 PM   #504
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If she could get her hands on Harvard stationary, what would she be doing at FOX?
Good one. First laugh this morning, other than the email I received from my buddy in Bethseda who said he saw this morning around 8am - while walking his dog - what appeared to be an Asian hooker dressed like a catholic school girl leaving the home of some 50-year old Hispanic family.

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FWIW, I don't think draft-dodger is fair. Clinton? draft-dodger. Cheney? draft-dodger. Granted Bush served in a creampuff unit, but he did actually serve.
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FWIW, I don't think draft-dodger is fair. Clinton? draft-dodger. Cheney? draft-dodger. Granted Bush served in a creampuff unit, but he did actually serve.
Draft-dodger is totally unfair, and not accurate. Which gave me pause before I used the banner, but I liked it otherwise, and I didn't figure I'd keep it long.
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Old 05-24-2004, 01:43 PM   #506
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Draft-dodger is totally unfair, and not accurate. Which gave me pause before I used the banner, but I liked it otherwise, and I didn't figure I'd keep it long.
Interesting that the "coked-out" reference escapes comment, from both sides.
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Old 05-24-2004, 01:44 PM   #507
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Granted Bush served in a creampuff unit, but he did actually serve.
Well, when it was convenient, anyway.
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Old 05-24-2004, 01:46 PM   #508
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Interesting that the "coked-out" reference escapes comment, from both sides.
i understand the born-again v. coked-out angle, but does anyone under 50 really get bugged by an admission someone took drugs? I think the litmus test of no pot for Supreme's ensures weird-o nerds only. And makes otherwise honest candidates lie about not inhaling starting themselves down a slippery slope of half-truths.
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i understand the born-again v. coked-out angle, but does anyone under 50 really get bugged by an admission someone took drugs? I think the litmus test of no pot for Supreme's ensures weird-o nerds only. And makes otherwise honest candidates lie about not inhaling starting themselves down a slippery slope of half-truths.
That litmus test goes all the way down to line attorney hires at DOJ. Bush, of course, is exempt because his drug use was before he passed the bar.
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Interesting that the "coked-out" reference escapes comment, from both sides.
When I hear this insipid old saw harped on in the leftist media I am reminded of 2 Corinthians 5:17:

"Therefor if any man be in Christ, he is as a NEW creature: old things are passed away; and behold, ALL things are become NEW."

Bottom line, neither I nor a majority of the American electorate care what Bush did back way back when, if anything, because God doesn't care. W has made his piece with the Lord, as have I and as you had better unless you want to spend your eternity with the prophet Mohammed and his child bride.
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