New Fashion Board 10-3-2003 - 11-7-2003

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
PLEASE, I thought you were becoming an Ahnuldist more than a Republican. Do you doubt that he has screwed and will screw anything that moves? Do we need to get ShapeShifter in her to verify that Arnold's done Reptiles?

Women and reptiles exist only to please men. And less-wealthy, less-powerful men exist primarily to please wealthier, more powerful men.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by bilmore
The state guv is much more liberal than the fed guv when it comes to illegal immigration, because they get a lot of votes from people who are sympathetic to illegal aliens. So, in spite of the fact that the cost to Cali's economy is huge, the Cali state guv spends mucho time and bucks fighting the enforcement of our federal immigration laws at every step. Many liberal states are like this - in Minnesota, our various city councils pass ordinances that make it illegal for city workers and police to report illegals. They say that this is because of cost - but it's really just a blatant vote-buy.

Makes sense, huh?

Liberal states? Since when is Texas a liberal state? We have a HUGE undocumented population, and we all live pretty much in harmony. (Edited to add, I'm pretty sure that it boils down to how each state pays its taxes. We don't have an income tax, so pretty much all of our undocumented population is paying the same sort of taxes that everyone else is paying for state services: sales and property, the latter usually in the form of rent.)

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Really, all women are just a drink or two away from all kinds of sinful behavior. Which is why they too should not be allowed to vote and should perform their proper function in being subordinate to their fathers, brothers, husbands, sons and just any man on the street. Unless the man is not here legally -- I'm not sure how that plays out but I'm working on it.

Oh, well everyone knows a man who would illegally cross a border is a bad person. He just wants to steal jobs from good, honest, hard working americans, who would happily have taken those jobs but for those damn illegal aliens.

Women do need to learn their place. They should stay home, get pregnant and cook. And iron. They should iron. With lots of starch.

When I got nonlegally married to a woman, I will make her stay home and take care of the home. Because someone has to wear the pants in the family, you know, there has to be a "man" in the relationship. So she should stay home, have children (science is a wonderful thing - as long as it doesn't in any way interfere with our views of God,) until we die. At which point our place is you know, down there.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by leagleaze
Oh, well everyone knows a man who would illegally cross a border is a bad person. He just wants to steal jobs from good, honest, hard working americans, who would happily have taken those jobs but for those damn illegal aliens.

Unless you've completely joined the lunatic fringe, you understand that the position that such snide comments support is, we need to open our borders to one and all. Is that a position that you are willing to defend?

'Cuz, if not, the joke is kind of cheap.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
*Many immigrants are hardworkers but there are some who are not and who come here to try to take advantage of the system.

And some have truly unfashionable footwear.

Which reminds me of a bit from the Man Show back when it was sometimes funny. They did a fashion show, and one of their categories was the Hispanic Guy Who Has No Idea What His Shirt Says. The model was a hispanic guy wearing a "Daddy's Little Princess" tshirt. I think he was wearing it especially for his drivers license photo.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by leagleaze
So she should stay home, have children (science is a wonderful thing - as long as it doesn't in any way interfere with our views of God,) until we die. At which point our place is you know, down there.

Your people seem to spend a lot of time on Earth focusing down there. Perhaps that explains why you end up there. Think about it.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
reptiles exist only to please men.

We are comfortable with you thinking this.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by bilmore
Unless you've completely joined the lunatic fringe, you understand that the position that such snide comments support is, we need to open our borders to one and all. Is that a position that you are willing to defend?

'Cuz, if not, the joke is kind of cheap.

Flightless bird, please.

Are you suggesting the only policy choices are "throw them all out" or "let them all in". I know you live near a border where more Americans want out than Canadians want in, but there are a wide range of complex issues involved in immigration policies (just to focus on one, asylum and who qualifies). Making fun of your "they're all bad" approach is fair game.

Speaking of game, it would be more fun to shoot you down if you could fly.

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by dtb
Ummmm.... yes, I suppose so, but you can substitute "home-grown American deadbeats" for "immigrants" -- what's the point? That one group was born here and one wasn't so the home-grown deadbeats are somehow more honorable?

That is the point, we have enough homegrown ones and can't do anything about them (the State is still considering my concealed-carry permit) so why should we permit others to just walk right in and join them?

Originally posted by dtb
Hmmm. How exactly does this work? How do illegal aliens get free healthcare? I think illegal aliens are actually terrifed (and no, that's not an exaggeration) to receive any kind of healthcare in a public hospital, because they fear being turned over to INS. So how exactly do they get free health care? Because they can't pay for it, they don't have to? Well, the struggling working-class Americans can do the same thing (and, amazingly -- they do!). Non-payment by deadbeats of any persuasion is why a dose of Tylenol costs $85 for those of us who do have health insurance.

I'd really be interested to know the scam that all these illegal aliens are pulling to get free health care!

OKay, I don't want to get into a real technical argument about it so I will simply say that in general publicly funded hospitals cannot turn anyone away. This includes illegals. Privacy laws, lying on intake questions, overburdened INS (now Homeland Security), bleeding hearts, etc. tend to permit illegals to seek the care without fear of reprisal. Although a truly tragic and sad story, I didn't see anyone clammoring for deportation of that heart-lung transplant girl whose parents had walked her over the border illegally only to have her die due to a medical tragedy.

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by bilmore
Unless you've completely joined the lunatic fringe, you understand that the position that such snide comments support is, we need to open our borders to one and all. Is that a position that you are willing to defend?

'Cuz, if not, the joke is kind of cheap.

1. It doesn't say that at all. I'm not getting involved in the immigrant argument, such things belong on the politics board and frankly I don't know enough to make an argument one way or the other. I wouldn't presume therefore to suggest what is appropriate or innapropriate about a subject in which I have little to no knowledge. I'll leave that to people who have studied the topic, or people like GWNC who have some experience therein.

What I have been making fun of for several posts now, is the stereotypical statements people make about people. Whether they be men, women, homosexuals or immigrants. Ltl made a comment about illegal immigrants, as was appropriate for our joking back and forth, I threw a stereotypical response back. And one thing I do know is that people say, those damn illegal immigrants, they are stealing our jobs.

2. Of course it is cheap.

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[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
OKay, I don't want to get into a real technical argument about it so I will simply say that in general publicly funded hospitals cannot turn anyone away. This includes illegals. Privacy laws, lying on intake questions, overburdened INS (now Homeland Security), bleeding hearts, etc. tend to permit illegals to seek the care without fear of reprisal. Although a truly tragic and sad story, I didn't see anyone clammoring for deportation of that heart-lung transplant girl whose parents had walked her over the border illegally only to have her die due to a medical tragedy.

Okay, but without getting real technical or anything, can you explain how it is that these publicly-funded hospitals are treating illegal aliens but not treating working-class Americans? Because you originally said that those damn aliens were getting health care and working-class Americans were not.

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Your people seem to spend a lot of time on Earth focusing down there. Perhaps that explains why you end up there. Think about it.

Well all we think about is sex. It's all about the sex. We can't help it. Much like alcoholics, or drug addicts, or what have you.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Okay, but without getting real technical or anything, can you explain how it is that these publicly-funded hospitals are treating illegal aliens but not treating working-class Americans? Because you originally said that those damn aliens were getting health care and working-class Americans were not.

YES! The Fringey left hook! We're back on the PB.

(Can we get the PB back now and move this over there (Thrashers, feel free to join us, you're a PB natural) -- don't you all want to talk about sex and stuff?)

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by leagleaze
one thing I do know is that people say, those damn illegal immigrants, they are stealing our jobs.

And our health care. Don't forget, they are taking healthcare away from decent, Godly-fearing workingly-class Americans.

And apparently you have not recently reviewed the memo that bilmore now completely lacks any sense of humor, particularly about anything the least bit political. It's all black and white and I'm not talking about race here. Hm. Perhaps we need a new phrase. It's all soaked or arid, no humidity or dampness permitted.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
YES! The Fringey left hook! We're back on the PB.

Fuck. I slipped. I will confess and repent. You are male, do you forgive me? When telling me, please let me know your level of wealth and power so that I know whether I'm really really OK or just kinda OK.