A disgusting vat of filth that no self-respecting intelligent person would wade into.

[Cletus Miller]

Originally posted by nononono
Under 3 oz for lotions and such, or you either check or toss them.

And they all have to fit in a quart-size clear plastic bag.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
It's like she thinks the next elections are two years away and she should actually think about governing. Crazy.

You call putting out a silly pointless grandstanding suggestion for a bill that'd never be passed and can't be enforced (how the hell do you stop religious profiling?)* governing?

* I guess the Amish or Hasidim can be profiled.

[nononono]

Originally posted by Cletus Miller
And they all have to fit in a quart-size clear plastic bag.

One per traveller only!

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
they should size up for bigger people. like if you're 6' 11" 3 ozs of body lotion ain't much help. or Taxwonk away on a weekend trip and only allowed a small tube of Preparation H?

Osama's 6'4" You want him with a bigger bag?

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Spanky
Every time I have arrived in the US from a foreign location, the dogs are always sniffing around at the baggage claim. That was going on before 9-11.

Food and drugs. Bomb dogs are on the departure level.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by sgtclub
No, I'm trying to make the point that the world is still a very dangerous place and idiotic proposals like Pelosi's are laughable.

What proposal? If her statement suggests anything, it is that one ought not to be allowed to search people based _solely_ on religion/ethnicity? Seems reasonable to me.

Anyhow, you damn fools, I doubt that happens now anyway. I'm sure there can be a fistful of objectively reasonable criteria to permit the search of anyone they want to search. That's what broad guidelines are for -- CYA.

Sort of like selecting a jury -- just be sure you can articulate constitutionally permissible reasons to follow your gut.

S_A_M

P.S. If your position is that the government ought to be able to search anyone they like at an airport, for any reason at all, just say so and fight for such a law.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
You call putting out a silly pointless grandstanding suggestion for a bill that'd never be passed and can't be enforced (how the hell do you stop religious profiling?)* governing?

* I guess the Amish or Hasidim can be profiled.

See -- Sebby agrees with me that it was a meaningless statement.

S_A_M

P.S. Uh-oh.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Cletus Miller
And they all have to fit in a quart-size clear plastic bag.

But no limits on KY jelly.

Party in the rear of the aircraft!

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
But no limits on KY jelly.

Party in the rear of the aircraft!

Hah! Good one.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Hah! Good one.

Thanks.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
What proposal? If her statement suggests anything, it is that one ought not to be allowed to search people based _solely_ on religion/ethnicity? Seems reasonable to me.

Anyhow, you damn fools, I doubt that happens now anyway. I'm sure there can be a fistful of objectively reasonable criteria to permit the search of anyone they want to search. That's what broad guidelines are for -- CYA.

Sort of like selecting a jury -- just be sure you can articulate constitutionally permissible reasons to follow your gut.

S_A_M

P.S. If your position is that the government ought to be able to search anyone they like at an airport, for any reason at all, just say so and fight for such a law.

Didn't her proposal (or statement, whatever) specifically call out Muslims for protection?

In airports, police should be able to search whomever they want with PC. PC should be a low standard in this situation given the risks trying to be protected.

[SlaveNoMore]

Secret_Agent_Man
What proposal? If her statement suggests anything, it is that one ought not to be allowed to search people based _solely_ on religion/ethnicity? Seems reasonable to me.

Here's her quote:

"Since September 11, many Muslim Americans have been subjected to searches at airports and other locations based upon their religion and national origin. We must make it illegal."

The evidence is irrefutable that religion (specifically Islam) and national origin (specifically, Islamic countries) are the leading indicators of potential terrorism.

Even questioning the legality of searches based of these obvious risk factors is idiotic and - above all - a testament to weakness.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
ummm, they don't search every Moslem.

Then you shouldn't have a problem with what Pelosi said.

but isn't the danger in making it illegal to "profile" that it might chill some a cop from searching someone he thinks he should because of the fear that any Moslem they search could call profiling?

If you believe that the fear of being accused of profiling has deterred police from stopping and searching blacks, then you might believe this, too.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Spanky
Exactly. But in addition, profiling is an effective law enforcement technique. Looking for someone who is nervous or twitchy is a profile. Is that being prejudice against people with nervous system disorders? When a nun has the same chance of being searched as a young muslim male from Pakistan, the inmates run the asylum.

I do not understand why you think that this has much to do with what Pelosi said.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The evidence is irrefutable that religion (specifically Islam) and national origin (specifically, Islamic countries) are the leading indicators of potential terrorism.

I think police can consider more than one factor when deciding who to search -- e.g., they should be able to decide to search a 25-year-old Muslim man of Pakistani citizenship walking off a flight from Yemen instead of a 89-year-old Muslim woman of U.S. citizenship arriving in a wheelchair on a flight from Salt Lake City. I'm surprised that you think the police that dumb, but -- if so -- maybe the solution is to hire smarter policemen.