Waiting for Fitzgerald

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
If this doesn't bring Penske and Slave running, well I don't know what will.

I'm busy today, sorry. I still lurve you guys. platonically.

[SlaveNoMore]

Replaced_Texan
This is one of those kick back with a beer and watch the spectcle unfold moments:

I wonder how many other Republicans will be joining the President on Mr. Lott's rebuilt porch.

If this allows the GOP to go back and annul this brain-fuck of a largest entitlement expansion since the New Deal, then godspeed I say.

I'll send them another pen.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
This is one of those kick back with a beer and watch the spectcle unfold moments:

I wonder how many other Republicans will be joining the President on Mr. Lott's rebuilt porch.

I wonder what the other vote he most regrets was.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
*Not counting Spanky. But face it -- his kind of R is an endangered species.

This hypocritical jerk had the temerity to tell Condi that I wasn't a real Republican. This was written by a friend of mine about the jerk in question.


PRAISE FOR...NANCY PELOSI? YES!!!
I am a loyal Republican. My first loyalty is to my party's principles, though, not its officeholders. Foremost of those principles is the idea that government should be limited, and that personal freedom should be paramount. Lately, I feel like aliens came down and gobbled up some of my party leaders inside of the Beltway... What is UP with our seemingly voracious GOP appetite for spending in Congress?

With the tragic situation in Louisiana, there is no doubt that the federal government is be significantly involved, financially, in the recovery efforts. These billions of dollars can only be paid for one of three ways. Either raise the deficit ceiling (borrow the money), raise taxes (take the money) or prioritize this spending against existing budgeted expenditures. I am sure that you all agree that this third option is clearly the most common sense approach. If you aren't, then read this piece by Steve Moore from the Wall Street Journal: http://www.opinionjournal.com/editor...?id=110007278. Well, in proof that the world is upside down, liberal Democrat Nancy Pelosi stepped up to the plate and suggested that the $70 million allotted to the San Francisco area in the latest Transportation Appropriations Bill, could be, instead, rerouted for recovery efforts. In response, Republican Tom Delay was less than stellar, suggesting that reprioritizing discretional spending was a good idea, but "not transportation money" (Delay's district is set to get $64.4 billion in transportation funds). The challenge has been thrown down -- if the GOP lets NANCY PELOSI get on the right side of this issue, it will be one more stake in the heart of any claim that the GOP is the party of fiscal sanity (already a dubious claim given the growth in spending in Washington). Someone explain this all to me?

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Spanky
Well, in proof that the world is upside down, liberal Democrat Nancy Pelosi stepped up to the plate and suggested that the $70 million allotted to the San Francisco area in the latest Transportation Appropriations Bill, could be, instead, rerouted for recovery efforts. In response, Republican Tom Delay was less than stellar, suggesting that reprioritizing discretional spending was a good idea, but "not transportation money" (Delay's district is set to get $64.4 billion in transportation funds).

Good piece:

This is one of the most telling passages you will read:

House Majority Leader's district -- $64.4 billion
House Minority Leader's district -- $70 million

Of course, there's room for a lot more highways in TX than in SF, but you get the picture.

Spanky -- you're always welcome at our meetings. If you don't want to be seen talking to us, Club can tell you how to get there.

S_A_M

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
you're always welcome at our meetings.

S_A_M

By "our meetings" do you mean "DU meetings"?

[Spanky]

Another great quote from our man in Texas:

Though Bush said in New Orleans that some offsets would have to be found for the Katrina recovery spending, there's been a thunderous silence on this subject from his congressional GOP allies. House Republican Leader Tom DeLay basically said all the fat has already been squeezed from the federal budget -- despite the fact that in recent years spending per household has reached levels not achieved since World War II.


Fat has already been squeezed? The guys nose must have grown three inches when he said that.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Spanky
This hypocritical jerk had the temerity to tell Condi that I wasn't a real Republican. This was written by a friend of mine about the jerk in question.

I am not a hypocritical jerk (I like to think) but would probably tell her the same thing.

if the GOP lets NANCY PELOSI get on the right side of this issue, it will be one more stake in the heart of any claim that the GOP is the party of fiscal sanity (already a dubious claim given the growth in spending in Washington). Someone explain this all to me?

Reagan took office almost 25 years ago. Since then, the nation has seen a steady, staggering expansion of deficit spending and debt -- except, of course, during the Clinton presidency.

My point? If your friend still believes that the GOP has even the slightest shred of a claim to being the party of fiscal sanity,* he is beyond having anything explained to him. He probably also believes that the earth is flat.




*This is not to suggest that the Dems have such a claim either. But tax and spend looks a hell of a lot better than borrow borrow borrow and spend spend spend.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I am not a hypocritical jerk (I like to think) but would probably tell her the same thing.

Ouch.....I think I am going to cry now.

[Spanky]

An End to Neoconservative (Neo-Trotskyite) Evil


Professor Paul Sheldon Foote


California State University, Fullerton


pfoote@fullerton.edu


September 21, 2005


David Frum and Richard Perle, in An End to Evil: How to Win the War on Terror, claimed falsely to have defined the conservative view on American foreign policy.



Frum, a Canadian citizen until shortly before the publication of this book, is a chickenhawk who attacked real conservatives for not supporting endless wars in his National Review article, “Unpatriotic Conservatives”.



Richard Perle is a Democrat whose name continues to surface in political scandals.



In the book The Price of Power: Kissinger in the Nixon White House, Seymour Hersh revealed that the FBI had wiretaps of Perle, while a foreign policy aide to the Democratic Senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson, passing classified National Security Council documents to the Israeli Embassy.



While Perle served as chairman of the Defense Policy Board, on July 10, 2002, Rand Corporation analyst Laurent Murawiec made a presentation advocating an American invasion of Saudi Arabia, the seizing of oil fields, and the confiscation of financial assets if the Saudis continue to support anti-Western terrorist networks (Jack Shafer, Slate, August 7, 2002). In “Lunch with the Chairman” (The New Yorker, March 17, 2003), Seymour Hersh revealed a meeting in France between Perle and wealthy Saudis (Adnan Khashoggi and Harb Saleh al-Zuhair). While Perle labeled Hersh a terrorist for revealing a meeting to find diplomatic alternatives to invading Iraq, Hersh suggested that the meeting was more likely related to Perle’s involving the Saudis in his Trireme Partners venture capital group to profit from the Iraq War and from homeland security spending.



On page 282, Frum and Perle included the Iranian Communist MEK (Rajavi Cult) as a United States Department of State designated terrorist organization. The MEK has murdered American military officers and Rockwell International employees in Iran. In 1991, to repay Saddam Hussein for providing Camp Ashraf and other military camps in Iraq and for heavy arms and ammunition, the MEK launched Operation Morvarid to kill large numbers of Kurdish children, women, and men, including by running over them with MEK tanks. On January 24, 2004, Perle was a paid speaker at a Washington Convention Center meeting of more than 3,000 MEK supporters. Professor Raymond Tanter, a prominent MEK supporter, introduced Perle.



On page 109, Frum and Perle described the MEK (without naming them) as “… a brave band of Iranian dissidents ….” On page 113, they compared the State Department’s opposition to the MEK with earlier attempts to stop American support of freedom movements in the Eastern bloc of the Soviet Union. On page 114, they urged America to “toss dictators aside” whenever America has the power and the interests to do so. On page 275, Frum and Perle concluded: “And now that America has become the greatest of all powers in world history, its triumph has shown that freedom is irresistible.” Nothing could be further from the truth. America invaded Iraq to control the oil fields and to make an example of Saddam Hussein for his 2002 demands to be paid for oil in Euros, not in American dollars. Iran followed this example in 2003 and has announced plans to open an exchange for trading oil (competing with New York exchanges) in Iran in 2006. America’s wealth and power depend heavily upon the rest of the world. The government of Communist China alone holds enough American dollars to enable it to hurt the American economy at any time by dumping those American dollars and by ceasing to make new low-return investments in America.



The neo-conservatives (neo-Trotskyites) have lied, too, about wanting to export democracy. Professor Claes Ryn’s book, America the Virtuous, explained the similarities between neoconservatives and the Jacobins (French Revolution Reign of Terror terrorists) who wanted to export their radical brand of guillotine mob rule to the rest of the world.



Readers will understand this book better by reading first the book of another neoconservative, Michael Ledeen: Machiavelli on Modern Leadership. Machiavellian politicians attempt to gain power by using expediency, deceit, cunning, or unscrupulous actions. Jacobins, communists, and fascists committed atrocities based upon the shared belief that the ends justify the means. By contrast, free-market libertarians believe that the means justify the ends. In Christianity, the Golden Rule of Jesus stands in total opposition to the neoconservatives who worship at the altar of Machiavelli. Unfortunately, the godless chickenhawk neoconservatives have been able to dupe large numbers of soldiers from Christian families to die in the Middle East to enrich and to empower the neoconservatives.



MEK supporters placed a full-page advertisement in the New York Times on January 15, 2003 thanking 150 members of Congress who signed the Iran Statement. By their support for the communist takeover of Iran by the MEK, the neoconservatives’ red, Trotskyite roots are showing again. Irving Kristol (“Memoirs of a Trotskyist”) and some neoconservatives have written openly about their Trotskyite roots and permanent revolutions. Other neoconservatives remain in denial (see: Jonah Goldberg, National Review Online, “The Neoconservative Invention”, May 20, 2003). For a truly conservative view of the National Review, read John McManus’ book William F. Buckley, Jr.: Pied Piper for the Establishment.



Congresswoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (Republican—Florida), who circulated the Iran Statement for the MEK, has more than 300 co-sponsors in the House of Representatives for her Iran Freedom Support Act (H.R.282). Senator Rick Santorum (Republican—Pennsylvania) sponsored the Senate version (S.333).



The best way for America to win the war on terror is to vote out of office all of the evil neoconservatives in the Democratic and Republican parties. If Americans continue to support the hard-line, Machiavellian neoconservative foreign policies of this book, then America will experience endless wars and an economic depression.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I am not a hypocritical jerk (I like to think) but would probably tell her the same thing.

Reagan took office almost 25 years ago. Since then, the nation has seen a steady, staggering expansion of deficit spending and debt -- except, of course, during the Clinton presidency.

My point? If your friend still believes that the GOP has even the slightest shred of a claim to being the party of fiscal sanity,* he is beyond having anything explained to him. He probably also believes that the earth is flat.

*This is not to suggest that the Dems have such a claim either. But tax and spend looks a hell of a lot better than borrow borrow borrow and spend spend spend.

Bottom line is that we need a real third party alternative.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I am not a hypocritical jerk (I like to think) but would probably tell her the same thing.





Reagan took office almost 25 years ago. Since then, the nation has seen a steady, staggering expansion of deficit spending and debt -- except, of course, during the Clinton presidency.

My point? If your friend still believes that the GOP has even the slightest shred of a claim to being the party of fiscal sanity,* he is beyond having anything explained to him. He probably also believes that the earth is flat.




*This is not to suggest that the Dems have such a claim either. But tax and spend looks a hell of a lot better than borrow borrow borrow and spend spend spend.

Where do you think all the social programs and pork receptacles came from? Harding? Taft? Hoover?

I am all for fiscal sanity. Let's start by having a not so great society. Then move to the Flat tax, and get rid of the IRS. A lot of the SEC can go, another drag on business. Department of Education, bye bye. And so on. Of course the liberals created all this crap and it stands as testament to LBJ. Along with a lot of dead kids from the war he lost.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Spanky
By "our meetings" do you mean "DU meetings"?

Nope. Never even been to that website.

S_A_M

(Its a reference to old jokes about the club meetings of the Board Democrats. Gattigap did a very nice post on them back when.)

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Bottom line is that we need a real third party alternative.

2. I have been thinking of starting a party. Like Perot, only less crazy and with updated charts.

Anyone interested?

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Where do you think all the social programs and pork receptacles came from? Harding? Taft? Hoover?

I am all for fiscal sanity. Let's start by having a not so great society. Then move to the Flat tax, and get rid of the IRS. A lot of the SEC can go, another drag on business. Department of Education, bye bye. And so on. Of course the liberals created all this crap and it stands as testament to LBJ. Along with a lot of dead kids from the war he lost.

Don't forget the Department of Labor. Goddamn child labor laws. Let the little fuckers die in mines and factories, where they belong.