Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[bilmore]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
bilmore, I hate to be a sexual response timmy, but shouldn't the symbol represent "I clitoris Ed Norton?"

Kafka & Ollie, this is not a slam on your work ... but it may be on bilmore's!

My choice was all-inclusive, while yours implies that feeling and response is spatially limited.

Having said that, I so don't want to go the rest of the way.

Originally posted by kafka_esquire
PP proves, again, that more than one interpretation exists.

K(the carat symbol are ears; the equal signs are whiskers; if you have to explain a joke . . .)E

Ah! A literal cat. that explains why you used dots to make vulva. I figured it was a way to accest the angle or something. (clearly I missed my calling as an artist)

though I think I like my interpretation- I thought you were so cleVer. But it wouldnt be kafkaesque to be so dirty.

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by bilmore
Having said that, I so don't want to go the rest of the way.

Pussy.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by bilmore
Maybe you're hitting exactly on why some of the players aren't thrilled with all of this. Her presence is going to transform this from a major (?) professional golfing event, of which they can be professionaly proud of being a part, to a media-hype (but profitable) freak show. I can see some purists (who have worked all their lives on their golf game) being less than happy with this.

That's the whole point!!! Are you saying Annika hasn't spent her whole life perfecting her game? Doesn't she deserve a little limelight? She won 13 freaking tournaments last year - she deserves some publicity. You're acting like this is going to turn the Colonial into some freak-show Adam Sandler movie. She should get the opportunity to win some $$ like the men that she's better than. The only guys going to be complaining are the guys who are getting beaten - you watch.

[Mister_Ruysbroeck]

I like that my avatar has prompted your creative sides.

It will not be changed back to Tyler, though. Not right now, anyway.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
Pussy.

Aren't we now full circle?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by spookyfish
Annika has a better distance off the tee than a fair (not enormous) number of men on the tour. John Daly has the greatest distance off the tee, but how many tournaments has he won this year? Tiger is farther down the list than I expected (Currently 48th), and how many has he won this year? Furthermore, there are tournament winners this year who are not appreciably longer hitters than Annika (Scott Hoch, anyone?)

You're an idiot.

You can't just take distance off the tee and use it to make all sorts of stupid claims. Tiger is 48th off the tee BECAUSE he is so long. He can hit his fucking 2 iron farther than Sorenstam can hit her driver. He often doesn't even use his driver because he doesn't have to. He can go for accuracy off the tee because while others are hitting 4 irons on their second shot from the same distance, he can hit a 6 or 7 iron. Now apply that analysis to most men in relation to Sorenstam and stop acting like you know what you're talking about.

Originally posted by spookyfish
My point, which should be obvious, even to golf experts such as yourself, is that you can win (or let's just settle for being competitive in) a tournament without being the longest hitter, off the tee or otherwise.

Your point is stupid, which should be obvious to you, but apparently isn't. The top golfers in the world are long hitters. They win the lion's share of tournaments. Yes, some courses are made for shorter hitters and try to put a premium on accuracy. But longer hitters will always have an advantage for reasons I've already stated. Sorenstam may hit the ball longer than some of the guys, but that is because most of them are sacrificing length for accuracy.

Originally posted by spookyfish
We could make other comparisons, but then you're getting into apples and oranges, b/c women play off the shorter boxes. Do I think Annika can win? No. Do I think she deserves a chance to compete? Why not? Someone brought up Arnie and Jack playing in the Masters long after their days of consistent competitiveness were over. How is this all that different, except for her um, equipment?

Apples and oranges. Men and women. Do you even think when you make the keys go up and down or are you just getting lucky with your posts while cleaning your keyboard? You can't compare men and women in golf much like you can't compare apples and oranges. Jesus. All the reasons you stated are advantages for her she will not get at The Colonial.

And don't bring up Arnie and Jack. I already said I think sponsors exemptions are stupid, so you're not even arguing the right points. Besides, it's different for them because they have won many majors and have earned their keep on the PGA (many tournaments give exemptions to players who have won that specific tournament in the past or who have won a major, so they don't even fall under sponsors exemptions most times you see them anyfuckingway). Until she earns her way on the PGA, she doesn't deserve to play.

TM

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Kafka, I can't help it, I'm OCD. And I didn't want to leave anybody out.

As an OCDer, this post must be driving you crazy. Did you mean you did not want to leave anybody out of the clitoris? If so, you forget the full range of FBers. Or did you mean left out of your response about the post about the clitoris?

K(see what I mean about how difficult it is for me to be witty?)E



edited fourteen times before hitting "Submit Reply" so that I could compare punctuation placement; sentence structure (should I start a sentence with an "or"?); and colors of this editing note.

edited once after posting to eliminate the duplicate occurrence of the word "post" in the final sentence of the main text.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by purse junkie
Because in baseball, you at least have to be able to schlep around the bases fast enough to beat a throw in from the outfield when you get a hit. And you have to be able to throw really damn hard.

Golf is a couple of big, powerful swings, an ass-dragging meander to get to where the ball is, then some smaller swings, some more meandering, and finally a tiny putt or two. I'm fairly certain I expend more energy drinking a cup of tea for God's sakes.

It takes great hand-eye coordination and skill, and the attendant amount of brains, but so does chess, and it's not a sport either.

I am all for a good cup of tea, yet I must say that if you have ever played 18 holes in Texas in July you would realize exactly how much energy one can expend playing a round of golf.

I would call it a sport, despite that fact that it is a sport that permits consumption of bloody marys and beer during play. Heck that is the best kind of sport!

n(and a grilled cheese at the turn, please)cs

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by purse junkie
It takes great hand-eye coordination and skill, and the attendant amount of brains, but so does chess, and it's not a sport either.

If it wasn't a sport, this argument about relative muscle and strength of men vs. women and whether a woman should play in a PGA event would be totally irrelevant. It requires strength, skill and coordination.

It also requires a certain degree of endurance, because you also are required to walk the course which generally translates into a few miles, on top of all the other stuff you have to do, which does require that you be at least in decent shape.

Why do you think there was such an outcry about Casey Martin and whether he should be allowed to use a cart or not. It's a sport, period.

However, I differ in your assertion that all sports require an attendant amount of brains. If you need an example, look at Mike Tyson, for chrissakes.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
That's the whole point!!! Are you saying Annika hasn't spent her whole life perfecting her game? Doesn't she deserve a little limelight? She won 13 freaking tournaments last year - she deserves some publicity. You're acting like this is going to turn the Colonial into some freak-show Adam Sandler movie. She should get the opportunity to win some $$ like the men that she's better than. The only guys going to be complaining are the guys who are getting beaten - you watch.

No, I think I said that unclearly. I wasn't implying that she's a freak. What I meant was that these golfers (who happen to be guys) who have worked their entire lives to perfect their game, and now make it into the Bigs, the Show, the . . . whatever, now see a situation where the big story isn't going to be their sweet swing, or their years of anguish and training, but this golfer over there in a bra.

In short, a freakshow. A media blitz for reasons other than the reasons they came - i.e., their mastery of golf.

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
You're an idiot.

You can't just take distance off the tee and use it to make all sorts of stupid claims. Tiger is 48th off the tee BECAUSE he is so long. He can hit his fucking 2 iron farther than Sorenstam can hit her driver. He often doesn't even use his driver because he doesn't have to. He can go for accuracy off the tee because while others are hitting 4 irons on their second shot from the same distance, he can hit a 6 or 7 iron. Now apply that analysis to most men in relation to Sorenstam and stop acting like you know what you're talking about.

Your point is stupid, which should be obvious to you, but apparently isn't. The top golfers in the world are long hitters. They win the lion's share of tournaments. Yes, some courses are made for shorter hitters and try to put a premium on accuracy. But longer hitters will always have an advantage for reasons I've already stated. Sorenstam may hit the ball longer than some of the guys, but that is because most of them are sacrificing length for accuracy.

Apples and oranges. Men and women. Do you even think when you make the keys go up and down or are you just getting lucky with your posts while cleaning your keyboard? You can't compare men and women in golf much like you can't compare apples and oranges. Jesus. All the reasons you stated are advantages for her she will not get at The Colonial.

And don't bring up Arnie and Jack. I already said I think sponsors exemptions are stupid, so you're not even arguing the right points. Besides, it's different for them because they have won many majors and have earned their keep on the PGA (many tournaments give exemptions to players who have won that specific tournament in the past or who have won a major, so they don't even fall under sponsors exemptions most times you see them anyfuckingway). Until she earns her way on the PGA, she doesn't deserve to play.

TM

Hey Francine

I think you maxed out your weekly allotment of obsessive tiresome rant posts wtih the OJ thread. WHy dont you comment on racism and AI voting for the students?

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Editedt o move the bellybotton , vulva and clit

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[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Yeah, pretty damn boring. Faith's "good thing we're hot chicks with superpowers" line almost saved the last bit of one scene, but, on second thought, not. Usually, I can get by all the mushy crap they've been putting in Spike's mouth by focusing on his general hotness, but this time it was so bad I just wanted someone to stick his ass under a sunlamp.

The finale had better kick ass, because, as things stand, Joss Whedon is heading up there in my list of people I will bitchslap if I ever meet them on the street. He's not in spitting distance of my front runner, the "only thing I like better than doing the crossword ..." woman, but he's pissing me off. A lot.

Did you see the article in Salon about Spike ruining Buffy? I thought it was a pretty accurate analysis. One of my friends opines that in the early years, Joss identified with Xander (he used to flat out say that he pretty much wrote Xander as he was in highschool), and these days Joss identifies more with Spike. I've met Joss a few times, and he's funny as hell, pretty damned bright, and mixes a mean drink. I think he sometimes gets carried away with everything though.

I'm much more prepared to bitchslap Marti Noxon. She took over the Executive Directorship BTVS when they moved over to UPN. I've disliked pretty much every single episode she's ever written. Why he didn't turn over the helm to David Fury, I'll never know. Last season started strong, but utterly turned to dreck by November. This season has had no direction or underlying theme. Yes, she had a baby last summer, but that's no excuse.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by spookyfish
Sure, it's a sport. Baseball's a sport, too, but you don't have to be Charles Atlas to play it. Cases in point from several eras.

David Wells

Babe Ruth

Boog Powell

John Kruk

Cecil Fielder

Frank Thomas (a few donuts away from being Cecil Fielder)

I don't think anyone can argue that either one is not a sport. What are you thinking?

FYI, having recently seen Big Frank in a bar, he is anything but fat. In fact, he looks much thinner in person. I would say he is actually at the lower end of body fat range for MLB players...plus he left with 4 (yes FOUR) smoking blondes...

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by bilmore
No, I think I said that unclearly. I wasn't implying that she's a freak. What I meant was that these golfers (who happen to be guys) who have worked their entire lives to perfect their game, and now make it into the Bigs, the Show, the . . . whatever, now see a situation where the big story isn't going to be their sweet swing, or their years of anguish and training, but this golfer over there in a bra.

In short, a freakshow. A media blitz for reasons other than the reasons they came - i.e., their mastery of golf.

If their big break is the Colonial, they haven't mastered golf. If they seriously thought they were going to get some big press off of the Colonial, they've likely never seen the kind of press coverage that the Colonial gets. Heck, the winner of the Colonial this year will end up getting far more press than he(/she) likely would have any other year BECAUSE Annika is playing it.

n(is this topic dead yet?)cs