Offering constructive criticism to the social cripples in our midst since early 2005. - Page 40

Spanky · 06-16-2005, 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
I'll say it . . . I'm not outraged by the description.

Is this because you think that these men are probably holding information that if revealed could save lives? Or do you think it is OK to treat these guys like this for Kicks and Giggles because of the heinous crimes they have committed?

Shape Shifter · 06-16-2005, 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
Is this because you think that these men are probably holding information that if revealed could save lives? Or do you think it is OK to treat these guys like this for Kicks and Giggles because of the heinous crimes they have committed?

May have committed. This administration has lied about so much involving the war and related issues, you can't really believe anything they say about the detainees. I'll be really interested when we finally receive an accounting of the information gained as a result of questionable practices to see if the hit we've taken to our national prestige was worth it.

I recently read a book written by a military interrogator in Afghanistan (amazon.com link here). Several times, the targets cracked when they realized that the Americans would not torture them, and they saw that we had a better society. Too bad we've lost that high ground.

Spanky · 06-16-2005, 06:53 PM

There is a deer in my yard. If I want to feed her to keep her around what do I offer her?

Shape Shifter · 06-16-2005, 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
There is a deer in my yard. If I want to feed her to keep her around what do I offer her?

You can buy sacks of deer corn. Some hunters use sweet potatoes, also. Having said that, it's really not a good idea to encourage them to get too close. They have fleas and ticks and they can do serious damage to your (or your neighbors) shrubbery and flower gardens.

Replaced_Texan · 06-16-2005, 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
You can buy sacks of deer corn. Some hunters use sweet potatoes, also. Having said that, it's really not a good idea to encourage them to get too close. They have fleas and ticks and they can do serious damage to your (or your neighbors) shrubbery and flower gardens.

Not to mention your car when you don't see her wandering around the roads at night.

Spanky · 06-16-2005, 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
You can buy sacks of deer corn. Some hunters use sweet potatoes, also. Having said that, it's really not a good idea to encourage them to get too close. They have fleas and ticks and they can do serious damage to your (or your neighbors) shrubbery and flower gardens.

It just disappeared. You are probably right. It has been getting pretty crazy around here. In downtown Palo Alto they killed a cougar and up here in the hills they have trapped a few near my house. This may sound like a stupid question but do Cougars eat Deer?

Shape Shifter · 06-16-2005, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
It just disappeared. You are probably right. It has been getting pretty crazy around here. In downtown Palo Alto they killed a cougar and up here in the hills they have trapped a few near my house. This may sound like a stupid question but do Cougars eat Deer?

I imagine cougars do eat deer. I think they mainly eat deer.

More one feeding the deer: it can also spead disease in the deer population, and is illegal in many areas. http://www.outdoorcentral.com/mc/pr/03/02/28c1.asp

P.S. You would get a much different answer to your question on the FB. May I cross-post?

Sidd Finch · 06-16-2005, 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
Is this because you think that these men are probably holding information that if revealed could save lives? Or do you think it is OK to treat these guys like this for Kicks and Giggles because of the heinous crimes they have committed?

It's because he believes that, after people are tortured for awhile, they start believing in the free market.

eta: Relax, oh literal one. It's a joke.

ltl/fb · 06-16-2005, 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
It's because he believes that, after people are tortured for awhile, they start believing in the free market.

eta: Relax, oh literal one. It's a joke.

Literal guy -- Sidd means Sidd's post is a joke. Sidd does not mean that club's post is a joke.

Spanky · 06-16-2005, 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I imagine cougars do eat deer. I think they mainly eat deer.

More one feeding the deer: it can also spead disease in the deer population, and is illegal in many areas. http://www.outdoorcentral.com/mc/pr/03/02/28c1.asp

P.S. You would get a much different answer to your question on the FB. May I cross-post?

You can cross post - that is fine. I just don't read the Fashion Board because I never can figure out what people are saying.

Spanky · 06-16-2005, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Literal guy -- Sidd means Sidd's post is a joke. Sidd does not mean that club's post is a joke.

Its funny you said that because when I first read it I thought he was being sarcastic. I think it is going to take me a while to get the personalities down. You guys have many years on me.

ltl/fb · 06-16-2005, 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
Its funny you said that because when I first read it I thought he was being sarcastic. I think it is going to take me a while to get the personalities down. You guys have many years on me.

I'm starting to regard you kind of how I regard the new kitten, who actually thinks there's another cat around when he sees himself in the mirror.

sgtclub · 06-16-2005, 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
Is this because you think that these men are probably holding information that if revealed could save lives? Or do you think it is OK to treat these guys like this for Kicks and Giggles because of the heinous crimes they have committed?

It's because I am practical and recognize that we are in a time of war and in a time of war bad shit happens on both sides. It is also because I think self defication, while unpleasant, is not the end of the world.

All this is not to say that I think the POWs should be held indefinitely without process. I'm just not sure what that process should be.

sgtclub · 06-16-2005, 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
I'm starting to regard you kind of how I regard the new kitten, who actually thinks there's another cat around when he sees himself in the mirror.

Good one.

ltl/fb · 06-16-2005, 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
It's because I am practical and recognize that we are in a time of war and in a time of war bad shit happens on both sides. It is also because I think self defication, while unpleasant, is not the end of the world.

All this is not to say that I think the POWs should be held indefinitely without process. I'm just not sure what that process should be.

So you are OK with people getting kidnapped and executed? And wouldn't really have a problem with (relatively) random Americans being picked up and held in similar conditions in, like, Syria?

ETA you've had, what, 3 years now to think about what should be done. Does this wait indefinitely until you decide on a process? Haven't a bunch of courts said it's not legal?