Fashion Board 3-5-04 to 4-6-04 - Page 41

notcasesensitive · 03-10-2004, 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
You mean "Winthorp".

I thought s/he meant Tripplehorny.

Gattigap · 03-10-2004, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Why not make the less-well-known-name the middle name?

Sure. But in this example, which do you think is more well-known?

ThurgreedMarshall · 03-10-2004, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
One thing I can't figure out, though, is the ethnic derivation of names like Shaniqua or Laquisha. I thought it was Arabic, but that's wrong. I thought it was African, but that's wrong. I have no problem with names, but I'm curious... where'd they come from? I don't remember them existing until 10 years or so ago.

I think it's like everything else black people in this country have created. It's a product of a need to create an identity that wasn't forced upon you. And yet, in the present example, it's often made up of combinations of names that you are familiar with. It's the same with food, music, fashion and language. Take what you're given and make something new and creative. Forge an identity.

TM

03-10-2004, 01:17 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I think it's like everything else black people in this country have created. It's a product of a need to create an identity that wasn't forced upon you. And yet, in the present example, it's often made up of combinations of names that you are familiar with. It's the same with food, music, fashion and language. Take what you're given and make something new and creative. Forge an identity.

TM

What is Ytossie a combination of?

Did you just call me Coltrane? · 03-10-2004, 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Although they have a tendency to dry hump the college "it" band of the moment, CMJ is worth checking out . Sometimes I check out reviews at the Onion's AV Club . Pretty good reviews, plus movie, book, and dvd reviews and Dan Savage.

I always enjoy reading The Onion's movie reviews. They chew movies up and spit them out. No sugarcoating. Although I can't remember the last positive review they gave...but their reviews of shit-movies like "Snow Dogs" are highly malicious and thus entertaining.

Pretty Little Flower · 03-10-2004, 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
There are certain sites that I repeatedly run across when looking up bands that tend to give good, informative reviews. Pitchfork is one of them. I cannot think of any others off the top of my head.

Metatcritic is also interesting in that it compiles reviews from other sources.

eta: Here is a metacritic review of the Grey Album:

http://www.metacritic.com/music/arti...use/greyalbum/

ltl/fb · 03-10-2004, 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
Sure. But in this example, which do you think is more well-known?

oh oh oh wait, don't tell me, don't tell me, I know this one, I do. I do!!!!

Semaj? Definitely the one to go with. I am such a moron, not noticing that everyone seemed to want to make this one the first name, and that freaky "James" name the middle name.

Silly me. I'm off to soak my head.

ThurgreedMarshall · 03-10-2004, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
What is Ytossie a combination of?

It's almost like you can only hear every 8th word anyone ever says.

TM

spookyfish · 03-10-2004, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb

I hate having to spell my name to people all the time and keep an extra ear out for people stumbling over names at Baja Fresh and giving up and giving a fake name to put on the list at crowded noisy restaurants. My jackass parents didn't even do me the favor of giving me a normal middle name to use.

I think this is really a bigger problem with surnames in this melting-pot we live in. I have an Americanized pronunciaton of an ethnic surname (but the spelling is the same as the original -- I know, it makes no fucking sense). Among other things, calling out for take-out can be a real pain in the ass. I got tired of spelling out my last name to people over the phone, so I resorted to using a formal version of my first name, which fortunately for me is a surname to some. The aggravating thing about that is, people are sometimes even too lazy to get that right. It's gotten to the point that it's almost reflexive.

However, before the do not call list went into effect, it did have it's advantages -- if somebody fumbled with it a lot or just completely fucked up either my first or my last name, I knew that there was a 95% chance it was somebody trying to sell me something.

sebastian_dangerfield · 03-10-2004, 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I think it's like everything else black people in this country have created. It's a product of a need to create an identity that wasn't forced upon you. And yet, in the present example, it's often made up of combinations of names that you are familiar with. It's the same with food, music, fashion and language. Take what you're given and make something new and creative. Forge an identity.

TM

Ok, so its new then. Got it.

Unfortunately, white people have decided to do the same thing. "I really like Bob Dylan... lets name our kid Dylan!" or "Hmmmm, Carter and Kaitlin sound very tasteful and WASPY - something Martha'd adore - let's name the twins those names." Yech.

The wrost is the last-name-first phenomomen. You get things like Ainsley O'Malley or Kensington DePietro.

Now I'm scratching my head thinking "What is Lakisha a combination of?" Leslie and Keisha? I think I got Shaniqua - that's Shannon plus something.

sebastian_dangerfield · 03-10-2004, 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
What is Ytossie a combination of?

That one's African. No combination.

dtb · 03-10-2004, 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Backwards James is flat out a stupid name for a kid (the name itself may not be stupid but the reasoning for coming up with it is idiotic).

Wait a second... aren't you a RedSox fan? (Or is my butt speaking for me again?) If you are, surely you must know that NOMAHHH is named after his father, Ramon.

I, however, am fully justified in expressing derision for such a tactic, especially when James - forward is a perfectly lovely name!

(As is Ramon, of course.)

LessinSF · 03-10-2004, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Now I'm scratching my head thinking "What is Lakisha a combination of?" Leslie and Keisha? I think I got Shaniqua -
that's Shannon plus something.

Antiqua, because the parents are big fans of betting offshore at World's Sports Exchange on Shannon Doherty to win the Oscar for Best Actress. Duh.

greatwhitenorthchick · 03-10-2004, 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Dylan + stuff

Dylan is a bad example. Dylan Thomas wasn't named after Bob Dylan. But I take your point.

It is just evolution though - many moons ago, Leslie was more common for men than women - same with Ashley. Things change - people like to be creative. An entrenched system for naming is kind of nice and everybody knows what is what - i.e. David is a boy's name and Cindy is a girl's name, etc., but also pretty boring.

I have a couple of Korean friends - now that is a boring naming system - so many people have the same name.

Replaced_Texan · 03-10-2004, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by spookyfish
I think this is really a bigger problem with surnames in this melting-pot we live in. I have an Americanized pronunciaton of an ethnic surname (but the spelling is the same as the original -- I know, it makes no fucking sense). Among other things, calling out for take-out can be a real pain in the ass. I got tired of spelling out my last name to people over the phone, so I resorted to using a formal version of my first name, which fortunately for me is a surname to some. The aggravating thing about that is, people are sometimes even too lazy to get that right. It's gotten to the point that it's almost reflexive.

However, before the do not call list went into effect, it did have it's advantages -- if somebody fumbled with it a lot or just completely fucked up either my first or my last name, I knew that there was a 95% chance it was somebody trying to sell me something.

My mom went from a long Polish last name to a considerably shorter Hispanic last name. People still butcher her last name on a regular basis. I write the accent in the appropriate place, but it usually serves to confuse more than it does to help with native English speakers.

The telemarketers never had a chance after their first attempts to prounounce the name. Lately, I've had a slew of Spanish speaking telemarketers (I suspect that they think that no one's going to report them to the do-not-call list), who get pissed off when I pretend not to speak Spanish.

My parents decided to give their kids names that translate in both English and Spanish fairly easily. As a result, my sibs and I have names that are appropriate for bodice ripping romance novels.