Politics: Where we struggle to kneel in the muck.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Actually, I had always figured on moving to the burbs. I dig the space, and I like to be able to drive places and not have to get my car out of a secure lot to go anywhere, or never be able to find parking. Shit City, where I lived, gets old quickly, but it has nice burbs. Hell, I can drink vodka tonics with my wife naked in the backyard. Couldn't do that in the City... The freedom is great.

You might be a side effect then, young un. Without the "not_Democrats" flight, the "I want to drink vodka tonics with my wife naked in the backyard" flight wouldn't have found a critical mass to even get roads, schools and sewers built. Your wife likes that indoor plumbing, doesn't she? Without the fear and hate factors, who's parents and grandparents woulda left the city in the first place? And if they still lived in they city, they wouldn't need the hybrids and the e-cars to reduce pollution. Those with a guilt-complex could just take a bus.






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[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
You might be a side effect then, young un. Without the "not_Democrats" flight, the "I want to drink vodka tonics with my wife naked in the backyard" flight wouldn't have found a critical mass to even get roads, schools and sewers built. Your wife likes that indoor plumbing, doesn't she? Without the fear and hate factors, who's parents and grandparents woulda left the city in the first place? And if they still lived in they city, they wouldn't need the hybrids and the e-cars to reduce pollution. Those with a guilt-complex could just take a bus.






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Wouldn't the first wave on immigrants have been it then? The Irish fill up NYC. The Jews and dagos and chinese want to move to NYC, but it full up. Blacks want to move north, but no place to go. We'd be Canada.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Wouldn't the first wave on immigrants have been it then? The Irish fill up NYC. The Jews and dagos and chinese want to move to NYC, but it full up. Blacks want to move north, but no place to go. We'd be Canada.

First wave of immigrants? Pilgrims didn't even have donkeys to ride, let alone donkeys to run away from.

Nope, they just kept building NYC and let it get bigger. No reason to form a new "government", 'cept to have new laws (e.g., no donkeys or subsidized or dense housing allowed).

Not to mention, the blacks wanted to move North long before NYC was filled up with Jews, Italians and Chinese. Strange how everybody wanted a big back yard as soon as they showed up though. Well, that and when the liberals and scared whites started concentrating the subsidized people near downtowns and paying them to sit on their asses (again, not talking about Balt's grandma) just so long as they didn't come out to the burbs.

eta: not that liberals and scared whites are necessarily mutually exclusive or anything.

[Gattigap]

Wonkette is still low-profile enough that I'd imagine most politicos don't recognize her.

Given this, she may be able to step into Ali G's shoes once Government officials see the cameras, recognize his glasses and skullcap, and run for the hills.

As one example, here's Wonkette with Zell at the Reagan Awards Gala. Zell is unfamiliar enough with Wonkette to pose for this photo, and she almost got him to say the words "ass-fucking."

Unfortunately, based on her facial expression, I think she needs to learn to sell it better.

[SlaveNoMore]

Gattigap
Wonkette is still low-profile enough that I'd imagine most politicos don't recognize her.

I wouldn't have recognized her either.

Must be all the air brushing of her other photos.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
You might be a side effect then, young un. Without the "not_Democrats" flight, the "I want to drink vodka tonics with my wife naked in the backyard" flight wouldn't have found a critical mass to even get roads, schools and sewers built. Your wife likes that indoor plumbing, doesn't she? Without the fear and hate factors, who's parents and grandparents woulda left the city in the first place? And if they still lived in they city, they wouldn't need the hybrids and the e-cars to reduce pollution. Those with a guilt-complex could just take a bus.

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Some people like land. They like yards, space, trees and fresh air. That, my friend, is why suburbs started.

I happened to grow up in a secluded area because my folks wanted to get the fuck away from neighbors - all neighbors, regardless of color or ethnicity. Its nice to have privacy.

You're really reading into this waaaay too much.

[Say_hello_for_me]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...i-business-hed

Supreme Court took the CT case today. Y'all can imagine where the Right stands on this one.

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[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Some people like land. They like yards, space, trees and fresh air. That, my friend, is why suburbs started.

I happened to grow up in a secluded area because my folks wanted to get the fuck away from neighbors - all neighbors, regardless of color or ethnicity. Its nice to have privacy.

You're really reading into this waaaay too much.

In other words, when you can't explain away all the correlations that led to your happy existence, point over my head and shout "look, over there".

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
In other words, when you can't explain away all the correlations that led to your happy existence, point over my head and shout "look, over there".

Jesus, do I have to give it to you in paint by numbers format?

A lot of people - myself included - get tired of the city. In olden days, such people moved to the country (later called the suburbs). As they did, roads and sewer systems followed, and suburban towns cropped up.

Then, much later, in some cities, in an entirely different phenomenon, some people ran from cities which were on the decline, like Philly and Detroit. This was called "white flight". In response, the suburbs grew.

Sure, some people ran out of fear and hatred, but some people just like the fucking space. I'd say its a 85/15 ration in favor of space over fear and hatred.

ETA... And one more thing... I'd take the position that for a lot of us, its not a natural thing to live in a city you're whole life. There's a reason people retire outside cities - its easier living. My grandparents left NYC because they wanted to get some serious land, not because they wer afraid of immigrants, blacks, jews, indians, whatever... Fuck, they were immigrants!

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...i-business-hed

Supreme Court took the CT case today. Y'all can imagine where the Right stands on this one.

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Though we tend to disagree on issues, you often have a point. Lately I can't figure out what the fuck you're talking about. Are you busy at work? How much sleep have you been getting lately?

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Though we tend to disagree on issues, you often have a point. Lately I can't figure out what the fuck you're talking about

No surprise this. White people avoid this conversation like the plague.

[SlaveNoMore]

Shape Shifter
Though we tend to disagree on issues, you often have a point. Lately I can't figure out what the fuck you're talking about. Are you busy at work? How much sleep have you been getting lately?

I give you credit for bothering to register. I clicked the link and immediately gave up.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
No surprise this. White people avoid this conversation like the plague.

Um.... there are lots of black people in my suburb. Did I fuck this up somehow?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I give you credit for bothering to register. I clicked the link and immediately gave up.

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Quoting from articles on sites that require registration is not wrong.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Um.... there are lots of black people in my suburb. Did I fuck this up somehow?

I'm going to start calling that black chick on the corner Aunt Tom.