Fashion Board 3-5-04 to 4-6-04

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Did Trinny and Susannah seriously just interrupt a FUCKING EUCHARIST SERVICE with a BBC camera crew in order to do a surprise fashion makeover of the vicar? If He lets this go, He owes Jim Caviezel an abject fucking apology for all the lightning strikes.

In iTunes Music Store news, so many celebrity playlists have now included Serge Gainsbourg's "Je T'Aime . . . Moi Non Plus" that at this point I have to assume there's some huge musical in-joke I'm not getting. Flower? Little help?

If you're going to buy (or download) one Serge Gainsbourg CD, I'd go with "Comic Strip," a greatest hits CD of sorts, which will irk the purists, but fuck em. It's got requiem pour un con (requiem for a cunt); Bonnie and Clyde (duet w/ Brigitte Bardot), Docteur Jekyll et Monsieur Hyde, Ford Mustang, Hold Up, and the two killer duets with Jane Birkin, Je T'aime . . . Moi Non Plus, and Soixante Neuf Annee Erotique.

Good ole Serge. That guy got quality poon. In fact, he might win the "guy who looks-wise went the most out of his league." Any other nominees?

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Ok, so its new then. Got it.

Unfortunately, white people have decided to do the same thing. "I really like Bob Dylan... lets name our kid Dylan!" or "Hmmmm, Carter and Kaitlin sound very tasteful and WASPY - something Martha'd adore - let's name the twins those names." Yech.

I like this trend. We all should. If only all wannabe yuppie nouveau riche people named their kids Brittany, Ashley, Kaitlin and Brianna, we could point them out and avoid them and their Mini-McMansions.

That's my Paigow of the Day.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by LessinSF
Antiqua, because the parents are big fans of betting offshore at World's Sports Exchange on Shannon Doherty to win the Oscar for Best Actress. Duh.

Shanigua? No. You need a Carribean vacation, bucko.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I think it's like everything else black people in this country have created. It's a product of a need to create an identity that wasn't forced upon you. And yet, in the present example, it's often made up of combinations of names that you are familiar with. It's the same with food, music, fashion and language. Take what you're given and make something new and creative. Forge an identity.

It's not like the impulse is unique to blacks, either, although people feel free to be judgmental about black names while they keep to themselves a little more about, e.g., Mormon baby names.

(spree: "An online help for parents looking for that distinctive name that says 'I'm a Utah Mormon!'")

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Ok, so its new then. Got it.

Unfortunately, white people have decided to do the same thing. "I really like Bob Dylan... lets name our kid Dylan!" or "Hmmmm, Carter and Kaitlin sound very tasteful and WASPY - something Martha'd adore - let's name the twins those names." Yech.

The wrost is the last-name-first phenomomen. You get things like Ainsley O'Malley or Kensington DePietro.

Now I'm scratching my head thinking "What is Lakisha a combination of?" Leslie and Keisha? I think I got Shaniqua -
that's Shannon plus something.

BUt what is Ytossie?

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Ok, so its new then. Got it.

Unfortunately, white people have decided to do the same thing. "I really like Bob Dylan... lets name our kid Dylan!" or "Hmmmm, Carter and Kaitlin sound very tasteful and WASPY - something Martha'd adore - let's name the twins those names." Yech.

The wrost is the last-name-first phenomomen. You get things like Ainsley O'Malley or Kensington DePietro.

Now I'm scratching my head thinking "What is Lakisha a combination of?" Leslie and Keisha? I think I got Shaniqua - that's Shannon plus something.

The last-name-as-first-name (applied to both males and females, making it impossible to tell what the person is) seems like it's been around a long time and is not a recent phenomenon.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop


(spree: "An online help for parents looking for that distinctive name that says 'I'm a Utah Mormon!'")

this one jumped out at me:

Abcde

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
That one's African. No combination.

This reminds me of the time when I rhetorically asked about the frogstorm in Magnolia and how that could happen and chris came back with a very methodical explanation of the phenomenon.

[Fugee]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I bet you can't wait to hear my advice, can you? Leave the name to the parents. Although there have been studies done that show having a black-sounding name keeps you from landing job interviews or loans, deblackifying* him for his own good isn't the answer.

Hell, I think Damareus is a cool name. Semaj ain't bad either.

TM

* If he is black.

Actually I was waiting to hear your advice. Little Damareus is black (as are his pre-adoptive parents) and those studies about black-sounding names have been in my mind. My objection to Semaj is not only that he might have troubles in the future because of the ethnicity, but also the pronunciation part, which is a personal issue for me. The Fugee last name is not common but shouldn't be that hard to pronounce or spell. But my whole life I've had to correct people and spell out my name for them, only to hear "Oh, it's spelled just like it sounds." I think it would be nice to have a name that people got right without help.

I think, however, that Semaj/James is something I really have to talk to them about. The slash is a deal killer for me. I'll also mention the studies and my pronunciation/spelling issues (they both have easy to spell and say names and may never have thought about it) and let them add that to their consideration.

What amused me is that they started the name conversation by saying they thought Damareus is "too different" and then came up with Semaj as the alternative. Talk about your cultural differences; I'd never pick that as the less "different" of the two.

ETA: They have two new middle names picked out for him too so using either Semaj or James as a middle name would give him three.

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
this one jumped out at me:

Abcde

Yeah, I would have guessed girl's name.

Apropos of nothing, the site's URL struck me as funny. Maybe had something to do with the failed Presidential campaign this year?

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Shanigua? No. You need a Carribean vacation, bucko.

You have never been to Antiqua? Its a lovely island. AN old French colony. Henry the Eighth took it over to store his excess furniture and the rest is history.

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Dylan is a bad example. Dylan Thomas wasn't named after Bob Dylan. But I take your point.

It is just evolution though - many moons ago, Leslie was more common for men than women - same with Ashley. Things change - people like to be creative. An entrenched system for naming is kind of nice and everybody knows what is what - i.e. David is a boy's name and Cindy is a girl's name, etc., but also pretty boring.

I have a couple of Korean friends - now that is a boring naming system - so many people have the same name.

Yes, they're all named Ann-Yung.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Fugee

ETA: They have two new middle names picked out for him too so using either Semaj or James as a middle name would give him three.

When did the two-middle-names approach come into vogue? It's almost to the point where they need multiple lines on teh birth announcement for the baby alone.

Is it a result principally of women either keeping their names or insisting that the children have both parents names in their name, but they also want a middle name? Or is it some sort of indecisiveness? Or just that, without the likelihood of 6 kids, you need to cram all the names you ever loved into one kid?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
The last-name-as-first-name (applied to both males and females, making it impossible to tell what the person is) seems like it's been around a long time and is not a recent phenomenon.

True, but it was only prevalent among people with names like Auchincloss Frick Bellweather, III of Rye or Purvis Merriweather Crump, VII of Festerville, WV.

Only recently have we begun to see Churchill Raliegh Goldstein, Brittany Elsworth Pivonski, Eleridge Carrington Garopoloulos, etc... jumping rope in the cul de sac.

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
When did the two-middle-names approach come into vogue? It's almost to the point where they need multiple lines on teh birth announcement for the baby alone.

Is it a result principally of women either keeping their names or insisting that the children have both parents names in their name, but they also want a middle name? Or is it some sort of indecisiveness? Or just that, without the likelihood of 6 kids, you need to cram all the names you ever loved into one kid?

It's not a result of women keeping their names - it's been around before that became a real phenomenon. Prince Charles, for example, who is fairly old, is Charles Phillip Arthur George Windsor.

I have no idea why people do it - perhaps maybe to satisfy family members who want "family" names kept in offspring. My mother has has three middle names for that reason. Her siblings and my cousins mostly have two middle names, some three. She thought it was stupid, so I and my sisters only have one.