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11-05-2003, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by evenodds

Even(we have some in our collection)Odds

1) clearly I have made this problem ten times worse.
2) nobody has answered my porn request.

Penske_Account · 11-05-2003, 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
What is ice wine? I have decided after lots of thought that this is not just a recurring typo of rice wine.

Icewine, or Eiswein, originated in Franconia, Germany in 1794. Grapes were left on the vines until the first deep frost, and the freeze/thaw cycles that occurred concentrated both the sugars and flavors of the grapes. The process was refined, and now icewines are highly prized drinks that are created in Germany, Austria, and Canada. The Niagara region of Ontario, Canada is currently the most widely respected producer of ice wines.

It is also produced by several very good wineries in the PacNW. FWIW. FYI.

notcasesensitive · 11-05-2003, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
1) clearly I have made this problem ten times worse.
2) nobody has answered my porn request.

Hey, no one posted the Heidi/Jenna photos for me or answered Jack's photo dump question either. Get in line.

ltl/fb · 11-05-2003, 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Hey, no one posted the Heidi/Jenna photos for me or answered Jack's photo dump question either. Get in line.

I have also no doubt made many many many requests that have been unanswered. And not just ones begging for sex, either.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone · 11-05-2003, 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by evenodds
Ice wine is from a late harvested grape, after the vines have iced over. The flavor is concentrated and wonderful. Germany was the only place that produced it until Canada started. Canadian ice wine is excellent.

Also produced in Oregon, with the help of some post-harvest freezing. See, e.g., an oregon ice wine . I haven't had that particular wine, but Andrew Rich's stuff is generally fantastic for its price.

evenodds · 11-05-2003, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
1) clearly I have made this problem ten times worse.

We are sorry.

ltl/fb · 11-05-2003, 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Also produced in Oregon, with the help of some post-harvest freezing. See, e.g., an oregon ice wine . I haven't had that particular wine, but Andrew Rich's stuff is generally fantastic for its price.

We* are prohitibed from buying wine by mail in TX or I would have made an immediate internet purchase.

*this is actually appropriate here.

notcasesensitive · 11-05-2003, 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
We* are prohitibed from buying wine by mail in TX or I would have made an immediate internet purchase.

*this is actually appropriate here.

We* are allowed to accept wine gifts (including ice wine) from Northwesterners who visit Texas for lunch, however.

*ditto

SlaveNoMore · 11-05-2003, 03:04 PM

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paigowprincess
2) nobody has answered my porn request.

Veronika Zemanova doesn't do hardcore porn, although you can find her doing strips on danni.com and can probably find one or two strip/masturbation videos of her via KaaZaa.

As for Jenna, I find her current incarnation rather revolting with all the piercings and tattoos.

As for ordering online - just use a computer at Kinkos

Penske_Account · 11-05-2003, 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Also produced in Oregon, with the help of some post-harvest freezing. See, e.g., an oregon ice wine . I haven't had that particular wine, but Andrew Rich's stuff is generally fantastic for its price.

Concur. Sineann makes a nice one too.

ltl/fb · 11-05-2003, 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
We* are allowed to accept wine gifts (including ice wine) from Northwesterners who visit Texas for lunch, however.

*ditto

Some of us* may even expect such gifts.

*used in the blasphemous e/o sense, kinda sorta.

Jack Manfred · 11-05-2003, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
So some dude in the PNW pled guilty today to 48 murders in exchange for the prosecutor's promise to forego the death penalty. I repeat: forty-eight murders. All women.

Maybe this is for the PB,* but does anyone else wonder about the dubious morality of vowing to seek the death penalty up to the moment the defendant pleads guilty?

Doesn't it create a troubling incentive for you to waive your right to a jury trial on innocence or guilt in order to save your life?

And doesn't it cheapen the profound difference between death and LWOP if the state's willing to waive death in order to avoid the expense of a trial?

*This is the kind of legal policy discussion we used to have on the Big Board, FWIW.

It might trouble me if "vows" to seek the death penalty were commonplace. In the cases I've seen, such vows are usually reserved for notorious cases where the DA is vowing to do something that everyone who is not opposed to the death penalty sees as a no-brainer. "Hey, this guy killed 48 people. He seems like a good candidate for the death penalty."

Some serial killers are able to make the offer "Don't put me to death, and I'll tell you all of the people I've killed." That puts DA's in a tough position because they (1) are bargaining with a psychopath, (2) might have dozens of cases where the family can at least learn the truth (especially if they are holding out hope), and (3) have to deal with some families who believe justice = vengance.

Death penalty issues are primarily state specific. In California, the fact that an LWOP inmate might serve 30 years doesn't make much of a difference when it takes 20 years to get off of death row because of appeals. Other states, such as Texas, have the opposite problem. The speed with which Texas executes criminals (and with which GWB considered pardons and commutations) should raise questions even among conservatives, given Texas' history with incompetent appointed defense attorneys.

There might be an appropriate balance between the two extremes, or it might be that a just system simply requires more money than citizens are willing to pay. I think the abolitionist movement should turn away from morality and look to economics for traction.

Just to turn the conversation toward typical FB topics...
If the suit is too big in the shoulders, you would have to get it recut. Only a good tailor could do this properly, and most good tailors would advise against it.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 11-05-2003, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
We* are prohitibed from buying wine by mail in TX or I would have made an immediate internet purchase.

*this is actually appropriate here.

I think were is more appropriate, as Texas's direct shipping ban was held unconstitutional

11-05-2003, 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Veronika Zemanova doesn't do hardcore porn, although you can find her doing strips on danni.com and can probably find one or two strip/masturbation videos of her via KaaZaa.

As for Jenna, I find her current incarnation rather revolting with all the piercings and tattoos.

As for ordering online - just use a computer at Kinkos

What are good Jenna ones? And I wouldnt know how to use KaZa . And what is a good place to order from ? I am not sitting at Kinkos looking at porn sites.

ltl/fb · 11-05-2003, 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I think were is more appropriate, as Texas's direct shipping ban was held unconstitutional

We will see if this works, as the article noted that UPS, FedEx and others would not actually do the shipping to TX (in August, at least). I do not think I live in a dry area. Judging by the liquor store next door to my house.