Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
What is it with people and their table manners?

But my husband's mother failed to teach him certain "rules" that it has become my duty to teach him. He's a chronic double-dipper (don't get me started).

You married this guy?

[Sparklehorse]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
What is it with people and their table manners? My theory is that when the hippies grew up, they refused to teach their children table manners. But my husband's mother failed to teach him certain "rules" that it has become my duty to teach him. He's a chronic double-dipper (don't get me started). I have to watch him like a hawk.
Suffice it to say that you made the right decision to avoid this guy - if his table manners are ghastly, no telling what he's like in the sack. :drool:

Unrelated question - why do Clay's feet look so incredibly large? Is it the shoes?
:boots:

This guy claimed to have grown up in a privileged background, including, for example prep school, so I don't think he has the hippie excuse.

So how did your husband manage to win your heart nonetheless with his double-dipping?

[evenodds]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
I am now wondering why Ruben would be favored to win given that Clay is "teenybopper" favorite and Ruben is "judge "favorite? This is a populartiy contest not a talent contest and the teenyboppers have more dialing power than judges.

Last year, Kelly was the judge's favorite and Justin was the teenybopper pick.

I voted in last year's contest to help the better singer win, and trump the dialing power of the teenyboppers. This year, it is anybody's game, assuming they both sing up to their ability on tonight's show. I recall Seacrest saying that there was only 2% separating #1 from #2, if that holds true, then the contest will truly be down to the wire.

Last year, Kelly smoked Justin in the finals, but they didn't release the actual figures. (Probably because they were making them up . . .)

E/O

Thanks for the info. I read the reviews of the Horseclan series and it seems to track with my recollection (from about 20 years ago). Man. I'm getting old.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by Sparklehorse
So how did your husband manage to win your heart nonetheless with his double-dipping?

Believe it or not, we were never in a situation where double dipping ever came up. He usually avoids dips due to multiple food allergies and you just never know what people will put in dips. So I was in the dark until after the vows - needless to say, I blame his mother (not a hippie). But a lot of my friends who went to prep school had parents who were of the hippie culture - they wanted "better things" for their kids. I'm pretty sure that table manners were not taught in prep school as these people are some of the worst offenders. I wouldn't know - I went to public school. But they did teach us weird "etiquette" in the sorority. Some of the "old school" stuff was hysterical. There were manuals from the 50's where you couldn't leave the sorority without a girdle - and the actually had girdle checks at the door.
:mr:

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by leagleaze
I saw someone wearing a white shirt with a red sweater tied around her neck. She was speaking at something. And as I watched her speak, I thought to myself, why in the hell are you wearing a red sweater tied around your neck? Get a friggen shawl if you are cold. Or wear the sweater. It isn't a scarf for god's sake.

Learn how to accessorize you know?

OK, I wear sweaters about the neck with some frequency, though I don't do it by way of accessorization (I accessorize my neck with scarves and pearls, like a sane person). I wear them around my neck not because I am cold but because I am warm. I get cold a lot, and so wear a lot of sweaters and cardigans, and when I am not cold they are too warm, so I remove them and need someplace to put them. I refuse to wrap the damn things about my waist so as to emphasize the size of my ass, or wad them up into a handbag, which seem to be the other options, so about the neck they hang. (Or I wear them over my shoulders, all the better to impersonate a librarian, but this doesn't strike me as a superior look.)

It's called layering people. The benefits are you can take stuff on and off to regulate temperature. The side effect is you need something to do with the stuff you remove.

BR(OK, I acknowledge that anyone doing this as a "fashion statement" just looks like an idiot)C

[tmdiva]

Originally posted by evenodds This year, it is anybody's game, assuming they both sing up to their ability on tonight's show. I recall Seacrest saying that there was only 2% separating #1 from #2, if that holds true, then the contest will truly be down to the wire.

I think most of the Kim L. voters will switch to Ruben, and it won't really be all that close.

tm
redialing with two phones for Ruuuuuuuben!

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
(Or I wear them over my shoulders, ll the better to impersonate a librarian, but this doesn't strike me as a superior look.)

Don't you ever put your hair up and don glasses just so you can do the librarian unleashed thing for the Mr.?

What I mean is, doesn't everybody do this?

?

[lawyer_princess]

The Boston Globe story had one flaw. Tara Lipinski is not an "unexpected supporter" of Clay. In fact, she's exactly who I would expect to be a Clay supporter. Now if Quentin Tarantino was achin' for Clay, that would be a surprise.

Clay's feet look big because they are way turned out. Ever notice notice he walks? Totally duck-toed.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Believe it or not, we were never in a situation where double dipping ever came up. He usually avoids dips due to multiple food allergies and you just never know what people will put in dips. So I was in the dark until after the vows - needless to say, I blame his mother (not a hippie). But a lot of my friends who went to prep school had parents who were of the hippie culture - they wanted "better things" for their kids. I'm pretty sure that table manners were not taught in prep school as these people are some of the worst offenders. I wouldn't know - I went to public school. But they did teach us weird "etiquette" in the sorority. Some of the "old school" stuff was hysterical. There were manuals from the 50's where you couldn't leave the sorority without a girdle - and the actually had girdle checks at the door.
:mr:

I think table manners are pretty uniformly bad these days. I think my manners are abominable - too many years eating lunch at my desk and I'm a barbarian. Though I was taught to set a table (incorrectly, I should note) in home ec in my public school, only observation & extracurricular reading taught me how to execute the necessary maneouvers.

Double dipping is pretty gross - you get two dips max, the first one and then maybe a second if you flip the chip around and hold it by the chewed end while dipping the clean one. And that only among consenting adults who can trust that you washed your hands.

Please, please, please tell us some more of the weird sorority etiquette! My mother's had a "3rd floor" rule, which was that, if a man attempted to force his attentions on you, if you were on the 3rd floor or below you were supposed to jump out the window, because, on some warped calculus, the risk of death at that height was considered better than the risk of dishonor, but at a higher floor the death rate cancelled out the virginity benefits.

Poll: what is the weirdest supposed "etiquette" rule you've ever heard pronounced? Aside from the above, it would be an edict from some chick who came to do some lecture on "business manners," who proclaimed a bunch of odd stuff, but one was that at a restaurant no one was allowed to nibble bread or drink anything until the full meal order had been taken. ?WTF? That stuff is only on the table to enable people to survive the slow service. Then again, this chick also said it was "rude" to have a regional accent (she said in her nasal Yankee honk), so no one paid any attention anyway.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Don't you ever put your hair up and don glasses just so you can do the librarian unleashed thing for the Mr.?

Yes, but for that I usually wear a really small fitted tweed jacket, not a sweater. The sweater set I reserve for "uptight UES matron who needs to be taught a lesson by the footman."

[str8outavannuys]

I was watching MTV2 this morning.

A commercial came on for conditioner.

The music in the commercial:
"Diamonds and Guns" - The Transplants.

If ever I thought a band was unlikely to
sell hair product, it was them. Sigh.
I tell myself that someone else must
control the rights. Sad.

I haven't been to ESPN.com yet today. Has
any team ever hit 49 free throws in a row in
an NBA playoff game? Unbelievable.
Brent Musberger was waxing Musbergerian
about the Don Nelson coaching performance.
I only heard the last minute on the radio, so I
don't know if Nelson really did that great a job or
not.

Sens in 7.
Str8

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Yes, but for that I usually wear a really small fitted tweed jacket, not a sweater. The sweater set I reserve for "uptight UES matron who needs to be taught a lesson by the footman."

How is it that you always know the correct thing to do? I have been conflating the librarian and the matron all these years and my man was too much of a dear to point out my error. He's a keeper!

[lawyer_princess]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Please, please, please tell us some more of the weird sorority etiquette! My mother's had a "3rd floor" rule, which was that, if a man attempted to force his attentions on you, if you were on the 3rd floor or below you were supposed to jump out the window, because, on some warped calculus, the risk of death at that height was considered better than the risk of dishonor, but at a higher floor the death rate cancelled out the virginity benefits.

I don't think our sorority etiquette rules were weird; it was just that we hadn't heard of some of them before. For example, at chapter meetings we could not cross our legs because it wasn't ladylike. That was the first time I had heard that.

We did not need a third floor rule because no men were allowed above the first floor at the sorority house. It was a good rule because it meant we could run around upstair in our undies.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Please, please, please tell us some more of the weird sorority etiquette! My mother's had a "3rd floor" rule, which was that, if a man attempted to force his attentions on you, if you were on the 3rd floor or below you were supposed to jump out the window, because, on some warped calculus, the risk of death at that height was considered better than the risk of dishonor, but at a higher floor the death rate cancelled out the virginity benefits.

That doesn't sound right. Most sororities will not allow a man above the first floor. In my house, men were only allowed in the "formal living room" not the TV room or the dining room. Ever. Also, no alcohol. That's what frats are for. So, weird etiquette:
Many weird smoking rules - it was PC to smoke in those days but - NO lighting the cigarette without holding it between two fingers (in other words don't let it hang out of your mouth while you light). Never hold a cigarette in your mouth - you must hold it between your fingers at all times. Otherwise it makes you look cheap. No gum, ever (I think that rule should hold now - I hate gum chewers).

The girdle check was my favorite. There was also a brassier check - you had to wear yours at all times.