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		|  06-17-2005, 02:40 PM | #646 |  
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		| Originally posted by ltl/fb Why all the hate today?  Did I shit on your parade or something?
 |  Good God.  I'm not sure what alarms me more, that this is being construed as hateful, or that I typed the word "experiment" the way I did.
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		|  06-17-2005, 02:42 PM | #647 |  
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		| Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) The strength of that argument is somewhat weakened when dealing with people from a society, culture, and/or country who don't share in seeing the value of some of those fundamental rights.
 |  I guess that depends on where you think the rights came from.  If you think that it's self-evident that all men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, among them Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, you may also think that to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.  But even if the Governments' powers derive from the consent of the governed, those unalienable Rights are endowed nonetheless by the Creator.
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		|  06-17-2005, 02:42 PM | #648 |  
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		| Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) The strength of that argument is somewhat weakened when dealing with people from a society, culture, and/or country who don't share in seeing the value of some of those fundamental rights.
 |  Right.  But if you're paying lip service to the idea of spreading freedom and Democracy and all that good stuff, then shouldn't you be upholding all  the values that come with it as an example?
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		|  06-17-2005, 02:43 PM | #649 |  
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		| Originally posted by spookyfish Good God.  I'm not sure what alarms me more, that this is being construed as hateful, or that I typed the word "experiment" the way I did.
 |   It's the smell from the manure you dumped on your shoes during your faulty wheelbarrow handling.  Strong smells and the prospect of all that cleaning are distracting as hell, I bet.
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		|  06-17-2005, 02:46 PM | #650 |  
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		| Originally posted by ltl/fb It's the smell from the manure you dumped on your shoes during your faulty wheelbarrow handling.  Strong smells and the prospect of all that cleaning are distracting as hell, I bet.
 |  Reading your posts is not entirely unlike having to smell manure all day, so, as you can tell, I'm not easily offended.
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		|  06-17-2005, 02:46 PM | #651 |  
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		| Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop I guess that depends on where you think the rights came from.  If you think that it's self-evident that all men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, among them Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, you may also think that to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.  But even if the Governments' powers derive from the consent of the governed, those unalienable Rights are endowed nonetheless by the Creator.
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		|  06-17-2005, 02:48 PM | #652 |  
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		| Originally posted by spookyfish Reading your posts is not entirely unlike having to smell manure all day, so, as you can tell, I'm not easily offended.
 |   Use the ignore function, bucko.  Or does that not work in your black-and-white world?
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		|  06-17-2005, 02:50 PM | #653 |  
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		| Originally posted by ltl/fb Why all the hate today?  Did I shit on your parade or something?
 |  In my humble opinion, John Stewart is the best interviewer on TV today.  He even beats Letterman.  He is so quick that sometimes I wonder if the entire interview is not scripted.  And for the record, it is a lot easier to pick up on irony when you can see the speakers face and hear their voice patterns.  In addition, on these boards, I think a lot of people make stupid comments and when they are called on it, and they realize how stupid the commnts actually are, they then try and claim irony. |  
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		|  06-17-2005, 02:50 PM | #654 |  
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		| Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop I guess that depends on where you think the rights came from.  If you think that it's self-evident that all men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, among them Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, you may also think that to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.  But even if the Governments' powers derive from the consent of the governed, those unalienable Rights are endowed nonetheless by the Creator.
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Reading Das Kapital again, Ty? |  
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		|  06-17-2005, 02:52 PM | #655 |  
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		| Originally posted by Gattigap But so transparent that you've gotta think people will understand it for the calculated politics that it is.  And here I thought that Jeb was the more mainstream of the brothers.  Guess I was wrong.  Whatta fuckwad.
 
 If Jeb doesn't get bitch-slapped for this one, I'm gonna be really pissed at the people of Florida.
 |  You were wrong.  Jeb is both more religiously devout on a personal level, and known to be far more of a social conservative than younger brother.
 
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		|  06-17-2005, 02:53 PM | #656 |  
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		| Originally posted by Spanky In my humble opinion, John Stewart is the best interviewer on TV today.  He even beats Letterman.  He is so quick that sometimes I wonder if the entire interview is not scripted.  And for the record, it is a lot easier to pick up on irony when you can see the speakers face and hear their voice patterns.  In addition, on these boards, I think a lot of people make stupid comments and when they are called on it, and they realize how stupid the commnts actually are, they then try and claim irony.
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		|  06-17-2005, 02:54 PM | #657 |  
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		| Originally posted by Spanky In my humble opinion, John Stewart is the best interviewer on TV today.  He even beats Letterman.  He is so quick that sometimes I wonder if the entire interview is not scripted.
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I agree*, but Stewart really should not put dumb pop star-types on his show.  His interviews with them are boring as shit -- it's like watching Einstein discuss physics with a retard.
 
*with the exception of Ali G.  It amazes me that people don't google an interviewer before appearing on his TV show. |  
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		|  06-17-2005, 02:55 PM | #658 |  
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		| Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man You were wrong.  Jeb is both more religiously devout on a personal level, and known to be far more of a social conservative than younger brother.
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Gatti grew up in the South.  That's what he means by mainstream.
 
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		|  06-17-2005, 02:56 PM | #659 |  
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		| Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man You were wrong.  Jeb is both more religiously devout on a personal level, and known to be far more of a social conservative than younger brother.
 
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 |  Yep.  That Neil is a bit of a wild man.
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		|  06-17-2005, 03:00 PM | #660 |  
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		| Originally posted by Sidd Finch I agree, but Stewart really should not put dumb pop star-types on his show.  His interviews with them are boring as shit -- it's like watching Einstein discuss physics with a retard.
 |   Occasionally one may be pleasantly surprised by the pop-star type exhibiting heretofore unexpected intelligence.  
 
And, when they're completely humorless it can be pretty funny, too (see: Heidi Klum).
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