All Hank, all the time. - Page 45

Shape Shifter · 05-01-2006, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I've already bought it in the last couple of years, but thanks for caring. I just have to manage to find the stupid discs, seeing as how I have made 2 moves in the last 2 years.

I blame the Clintons.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 05-01-2006, 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I blame the Clintons.

I blame her ex. I'm sure she does too.

The point isn't "go buy Word" The point is that Corel has a sinking product that no one uses. So they have to give it away free on PCs to get some use out of it. Kind of like Internet Explorer, except for the part about no one using it.

Replaced_Texan · 05-01-2006, 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I blame her ex. I'm sure she does too.

The point isn't "go buy Word" The point is that Corel has a sinking product that no one uses. So they have to give it away free on PCs to get some use out of it. Kind of like Internet Explorer, except for the part about no one using it.

I liked Corel. I liked the "show codes" feature, so you could figure out exactly why your document was underlining and highlighting and indenting half the page when you just wanted it to highlight two words.

Word tries so fucking hard to think for me that I'm constantly fighting it and have no idea where exactly things began to go wrong.

ltl/fb · 05-01-2006, 06:34 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I liked Corel. I liked the "show codes" feature, so you could figure out exactly why your document was underlining and highlighting and indenting half the page when you just wanted it to highlight two words.

Word tries so fucking hard to think for me that I'm constantly fighting it and have no idea where exactly things began to go wrong.

Take a styles class. It actually works nicely once you know how to use it. The only problem is that you have to learn how to use it. If you do use it, having the document show the style that's applied to each paragraph over on the left is kind of like show codes.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 05-01-2006, 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I liked Corel. I liked the "show codes" feature, so you could figure out exactly why your document was underlining and highlighting and indenting half the page when you just wanted it to highlight two words.

Word tries so fucking hard to think for me that I'm constantly fighting it and have no idea where exactly things began to go wrong.

No question WP was and is a better word processor. But at some point Microsoft flexed its monopoly muscle, and that was that.

BTW, this is the politics board, right? Down with monopolists.

Gattigap · 05-01-2006, 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I liked Corel. I liked the "show codes" feature, so you could figure out exactly why your document was underlining and highlighting and indenting half the page when you just wanted it to highlight two words.

Word tries so fucking hard to think for me that I'm constantly fighting it and have no idea where exactly things began to go wrong.

One partner I used to work with would always lament the current state of office technology, and longed for the days when the firm had only two -- count 'em, two -- IT support personnel.

The firm's computers ran on Wang, and they probably weren't designed to handle anything more complicated than a 4 page letter, but you could blow up a newspaper rack right next to 'em, and they'd still keep going.

Hank Chinaski · 05-01-2006, 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I've already bought it in the last couple of years, but thanks for caring. I just have to manage to find the stupid discs, seeing as how I have made 2 moves in the last 2 years.

(now that I think about it, 3 moves in the last 2 1/2 years. yikes.)

go buy it again. the cost for the disc is far less than the cost of all the lawyer hours you have eaten up with this question. do you have any idea how valuable burger's time is? on the other hand you did give SS something to do with his hands.

notcasesensitive · 05-01-2006, 07:26 PM

Pretty unimpressive (at least from my vantage-point). I have witnessed at least 2 larger gatherings in the last year-and-a-half that I've worked here. The first was an education rally (anti-Schwartzenager) in Pershing Square and the second was the first immigration protest that was pulled together a day or two after that bill was proposed.

Maybe the crowds had dispersed some by the time they made it past my building, but I'd guess it had a smaller number of people than the earlier immigration rallies downtown. Maybe there is some demonstration burn-out going on by the 3rd (or 4th?) large organized one in a month. How many times do people want to deal with the aggravation of getting to downtown LA in order to walk across the city? Hmm.

Hank Chinaski · 05-01-2006, 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
How many times do people want to deal with the aggravation of getting to downtown LA in order to walk across the city? Hmm.

I can't decide if this is this smug or callous. the marchers braved much worse hardships to get to the United States, and now some fat cats in DC are treating them as political issues- not people. Do you think another subway ride is a burden to them?

How can some Senator who has never known a day of hunger have any voice in these people's futures? Do you not question how your country could have reached this point? Rather than headcount from your perch in the sky, did you consider walking amongst them and trying to learn something?

ltl/fb · 05-01-2006, 08:18 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I can't decide if this is this smug or callous? the marchers braved much worse hardships to get to the United States, and now some fat cats in DC are treating them as political issues- not people. Do you think another subway ride is a burden to them?

How can some Senator who has never known a day of hunger have any voice in these people's futures? Do you not question how your country could have reached this point? Rather than headcount from your perch in the sky, did you consider walking amongst them and trying to learn something?

I think you need your Christ avatar to do the "walk amongst" thing.

Hank Chinaski · 05-01-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
I think you need your Christ avatar to do the "walk amongst" thing.

maybe the Hitler avatar would make some of you think about how you are reacting?

Sidd Finch · 05-01-2006, 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I liked Corel. I liked the "show codes" feature, so you could figure out exactly why your document was underlining and highlighting and indenting half the page when you just wanted it to highlight two words.

Word tries so fucking hard to think for me that I'm constantly fighting it and have no idea where exactly things began to go wrong.

I loved the Reveal Codes feature. Word's substitutes for that are pathetic.

Why are we discussing this?

Spanky · 05-01-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by baltassoc
I had a minute, so I looked it up. To run a full version of Vista (there will be cut down versions available), you'll need a 128mb graphics card (surprisingly, to me anyway), a fairly decent processor (MS says Pentium M or above - I think you'd be happier with a Intel Dual Core), 512MB internal memory (but everyone says at least 1GB, and the biggest hard drive you can find (at least 80MB - you'l have a hard time finding something bigger in a notebook that's not a big price jump).

I've also heard good things about Dells, although I've also seen a lot of complaints lately (really lately). The Dell M710 is pretty much the standard for corporate America these days (a client just bought 1200 of them a few months ago), but doesn't seem to have enough power for Vista. It's a really good combination of size, weight and power (I used to have the predecessor, the M610, as my work computer). HP/Compaq laptops suck ass. Sony's are cool, but somewhat fragile. ThinkPads, no longer made by IBM, have a reputation of being pretty rock solid, but are definitely expensive for the specifications.

And of course, the new MacBook will boot Windows XP, you you could use either operating system with it. But XP has to be purchased seperately.

I will want VISTA when it comes out so it looks like I need to stick with PC. My budget is 2500 so any guesses?

1) So I need 128 MB graphics card (is that a lot for a graphics card?) Any reason to go higher than that?
2) Why is an Intel Dual Core better than a Pentium M? Will I really have a choice in this arena, or will I pretty much have to take the processor it comes with? Any reason to go higher than Pentium M, or is that unrealistic with $2,500 budget anyway?
3) If everyone says 1GB of internal memory, at least, then how much should I safely go with? 1.5 GB?
4) Of the 80 GB hard drive, how much will Vista fill up?

notcasesensitive · 05-01-2006, 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I can't decide if this is this smug or callous. the marchers braved much worse hardships to get to the United States, and now some fat cats in DC are treating them as political issues- not people. Do you think another subway ride is a burden to them?

How can some Senator who has never known a day of hunger have any voice in these people's futures? Do you not question how your country could have reached this point? Rather than headcount from your perch in the sky, did you consider walking amongst them and trying to learn something?

I would have loved to have walked amongst them if it weren't for the 2 obnoxious "We Have To Close Tomorrow!" deals that I'm working on, which kept me from even walking amongst them to get a fucking sandwich for lunch.

Maybe the numbers were the same as the other LA marchs, but it didn't seem that way to me. I only report the news. I don't make it.

baltassoc · 05-01-2006, 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
I will want VISTA when it comes out so it looks like I need to stick with PC. My budget is 2500 so any guesses?

1) So I need 128 MB graphics card (is that a lot for a graphics card?) Any reason to go higher than that?
2) Why is an Intel Dual Core better than a Pentium M? Will I really have a choice in this arena, or will I pretty much have to take the processor it comes with? Any reason to go higher than Pentium M, or is that unrealistic with $2,500 budget anyway?
3) If everyone says 1GB of internal memory, at least, then how much should I safely go with? 1.5 GB?
4) Of the 80 GB hard drive, how much will Vista fill up?

$2500 is plenty to get what you need. The new dual core processors are the latest generation, and they are faster. Supposedly, once code is writen to take advantage of some of their unique charateristics, they'll be even faster (the Dual Core is exactly that - it's essentially two chips on one chip, and they run in parallel).

Given your budget, I'd go with 2GB internal memory.

Try something like this:

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellsto...=E1505S3&s=dhs
and upgrade it pretty much whereever you're given the choice. I upgrade to 2GB memory, a 256MB graphics card, a 120GB hard drive, XP Pro, the highest quality screen, four years of at home support and MS Office Basic and came up with a total of just under $2500 with free shipping.
Unfortunately, I can't link to the final configuration.

That would be a pretty much top of the line machine that should last for years.