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03-18-2005, 01:09 PM
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#691
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a new low
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Originally posted by bilmore
stopping a death, if you truly think an injustice is about to occur, might be an inappropriate time to worry about minority status.
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her case has gone to the Supreme Court at least once, and Florida's supreme court several times. Do you feel the same way about death penalty cases? Free mumia? Should Congress subpoena him so he can't be put to death?
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03-18-2005, 01:10 PM
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#692
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a new low
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Who is paying for her endless hospitalization?
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Presumably the hospital is eating the cost. Which is why i'd wheel her into the rotunda, with the life support equipment, plug it in, and tell Congress that their witness is ready to take questions from the Committee.
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03-18-2005, 01:13 PM
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#693
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a new low
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Presumably the hospital is eating the cost. Which is why i'd wheel her into the rotunda, with the life support equipment, plug it in, and tell Congress that their witness is ready to take questions from the Committee.
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For long-term care? It's either Medicaid, private insurance (lucky employer!) or the family. Hospitals tend to eat emergency care, not long-term. I think. RT can probably give accurate info on this.
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03-18-2005, 01:13 PM
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#694
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Random Syndicate (admin)
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a new low
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
She's on Medicaid?
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 The same Medicaid the same Senators tried to cut yesterday.
edited:
Maybe not
It's an old article, and her fund was down to $50,000 at the time of writing, so I don't know who's paying now.
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03-18-2005, 01:16 PM
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#695
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a new low
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
The same Medicaid the same Senators tried to cut yesterday.
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I'm sure they don't want it cut for *her* (or any other individual cases they know of). Just you know the waste should be cut. You know. There's gotta be waste.
Here's a good use of some fucker's money:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4339033.stm
(business man offered her husband $1 million not to take her off feeding tube)
Fucking irrational use of resources.
Yeah, blah blah, market.
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03-18-2005, 01:16 PM
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#696
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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The Truth Comes Out
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Senate rules are fine and all, but not if they are inconsistent with the Constitution, regardless of how long they have been in place. If we want to require 60 votes to approve a judicial nominee, that's fine, but let's first go through the process of amending the Constitution.
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They're not requiring 60 votes to approve a nominee. They're requiring 60 votes to end debate.
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03-18-2005, 01:17 PM
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#697
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Cite please?
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Bilmore, take us back to those rosy, long-lost days of comity and bipartisanship before the nation knew who Robert Bork was.
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03-18-2005, 01:21 PM
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#698
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a new low
Quote:
Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
The same Medicaid the same Senators tried to cut yesterday.
edited:
Maybe not
It's an old article, and her fund was down to $50,000 at the time of writing, so I don't know who's paying now.
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I didn't feel like registering for the philly paper, but found this http://www.law.uh.edu/healthlawpersp...29Schiavo.html which is about a year or so old, saying that both parties (husband, parents) agree she's on medicaid -- but the cost is pretty low, as medical care goes.
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03-18-2005, 01:25 PM
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#699
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Serenity Now
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The Truth Comes Out
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
They're not requiring 60 votes to approve a nominee. They're requiring 60 votes to end debate.
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The practical effect is the same.
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03-18-2005, 01:26 PM
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#700
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Serenity Now
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Bilmore, take us back to those rosy, long-lost days of comity and bipartisanship before the nation knew who Robert Bork was.
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I guess he's forgotten about Abe Fortas
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03-18-2005, 01:33 PM
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#701
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Random Syndicate (admin)
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a new low
Quote:
Originally posted by ltl/fb
I didn't feel like registering for the philly paper, but found this http://www.law.uh.edu/healthlawpersp...29Schiavo.html which is about a year or so old, saying that both parties (husband, parents) agree she's on medicaid -- but the cost is pretty low, as medical care goes.
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This one from today confirms that it's generally free care at a hospice and Medicaid, though there is about $50k left from the malpractice suit.
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03-18-2005, 01:38 PM
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#702
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a new low
What is with you and the registering sites?
Nothing is free -- someone's gotta be paying for it. TNSTAAFL.
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03-18-2005, 01:46 PM
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#703
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Originally posted by sgtclub
The practical effect is the same.
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The practical effect of a lot of things is to thwart the will of a majority of senators, but that does not make those things unconstitutional, not when they are a part of a tradition of parliamentary rules that have been around since long before the Constitution was even drafted.
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03-18-2005, 01:46 PM
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#704
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Originally posted by sgtclub
I guess he's forgotten about Abe Fortas
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I didn't say non-partisan, I said less partisan. I haven't forgotten about the switch in time that saved nine, either.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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03-18-2005, 01:48 PM
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#705
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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The Truth Comes Out
Quote:
Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
The practical effect of a lot of things is to thwart the will of a majority of senators, but that does not make those things unconstitutional, not when they are a part of a tradition of parliamentary rules that have been around since long before the Constitution was even drafted.
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and the fillibusters to prevent judicial votes is just a rule that the Senate had been saving up for some 200 odd years just waiting to try out?
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