Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[soup sandwich]

Originally posted by Jack Manfred
I don't think I'd ever purchase a gun or allow one in my home. They're far more likely to be used against someone in the family than against an intruder. If I was a crack shot, maybe I'd think differently.

I agree with this. I've done target shooting with shotguns and rifles, and I am a lousy shot. A gun in the house is just asking for trouble. It takes me a full minute sometimes just to find my glasses, let alone get the gun and ammo from their two separate locations, followed by an assessment of whether lethal force is necessary. Get an alarm system and a dog instead.

The following is vague in order to avoid outing myself. I've had a loaded gun pointed at me. A machine gun, actually. It was not pleasant, but not exactly hysterics-inducing either (I think in the back of my mind I thought the gun was fake.) However, by using deception in the face of greater fire power, I am still here and the gun-pointer is in jail.

Like others have posted, I am not anti-gun, but I am anti-"own a whole bunch of guns".

[barely_legal]

Like others have posted, I am not anti-gun, but I am anti-"own a whole bunch of guns".

That's stupid. Someone who is an avid collector and owns multiple guns for hunting is far more likely to keep the guns unloaded and locked up than a person who owns only one gun for "personal protection". Hunters are far more likely to have taken a gun safety class than casual owners of guns. I think most states even require hunters to take gun safety classes before they can get a license.

There is nothing wrong with owning any amount of guns, as long as they are stored safely, especially in a house where kids are or may be.

edited to add that I'm talking about a reasonable amount of guns, not a freaking arsenal like at Waco, okay? And I didn't really mean to implicate the whole "right to bear arms" issue, I just meant that it's stupid to say that it's ok to own one gun but bad to own multiple guns.

[Mister_Ruysbroeck]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Easy answer. $86.4 over the four day weekend.

TM

The 10 million or so people who went to see that ($8/per person?) must really be the lowest common denominator in society.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by soup sandwich
However, by using deception in the face of greater fire power, I am still here and the gun-pointer is in jail.

Sounds like a good story that, unfortunately, would be outable.

[barely_legal]

Originally posted by Mister_Ruysbroeck
The 10 million or so people who went to see that ($8/per person?) must really be the lowest common denominator in society.

You know, maybe everything is just pissing me off today (and no, I don't have PMS) but the judgmental crap on this board is starting to wear thin. Ok, it's cool that you don't like Jim Carrey. Even understandable. But to say that everyone who likes his movies is the "lowest common denominator" is snotty and elitist. Seriously, do you think that everybody who likes things that you don't like is less intelligent and "beneath" you?

And no, I didn't see the movie. It looks stupid.

[soup sandwich]

Originally posted by barely_legal
That's stupid. Someone who is an avid collector and owns multiple guns for hunting is far more likely to keep the guns unloaded and locked up than a person who owns only one gun for "personal protection". Hunters are far more likely to have taken a gun safety class than casual owners of guns. I think most states even require hunters to take gun safety classes before they can get a license.

There is nothing wrong with owning any amount of guns, as long as they are stored safely, especially in a house where kids are or may be.

edited to add that I'm talking about a reasonable amount of guns, not a freaking arsenal like at Waco, okay? And I didn't really mean to implicate the whole "right to bear arms" issue, I just meant that it's stupid to say that it's ok to own one gun but bad to own multiple guns.

Who said anything about being a hunter? I think bringing up hunting when I wasn't talking about hunting is stupid.

Accusations of stupidity aside, I've never seen any evidence to suggest that accidental (or even intentional) shootings occur more often in single-gun homes than in multiple gun homes. Of course I've never seen the opposite either. But if you had to guess, do you think more shootings occur in single-gun homes or multiple-gun homes? I think the latter.

The bottom line is if I find out my neighbor owns one gun, I'm fine with it. If I find out he owns five guns, it makes me uncomfortable. Reasonable minds may differ.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Mister_Ruysbroeck
The 10 million or so people who went to see that ($8/per person?) must really be the lowest common denominator in society.

Ummmm, guilty as charged.

Not (what can I say? I like Olive Garden, too) Bob

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by barely_legal
Rant, despite being amusing, deleted because you all just read it, right?

And no, I didn't see the movie [Bruce Almighty]. It looks stupid.

It actually was pretty amusing. A nice bit of entertainment that the whole family could -- and did -- go see this weekend.

[boobjob]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
High Fidelity was a good read (even after seeing the movie). I second the motion for Me Talk Pretty One Day. In a similar vein, I picked up a memoir called Running With Scissors by Augusten Burroughs. It isn't Sederis-level amusing (a comparison to Sederis is what prompted the purchase), but it is kind of interesting and disturbing. Of course I am partial to reading about people with screwed up home-lives because it makes me feel normal...

I'm going to throw out a rec for some older sci fi that I've just picked up. Alfred Bester's "The Demolished Man" simply kicks ass, especially when you realize it was written in the early fifties. I also just reread Farenheit 451 by Bradbury (the anniversary eddition with new foreward by the man himself). Beautiful prose; cool story -- though the newly written foreward shows that Bradbury is as enamoured with himself as ever.

[barely_legal]

Originally posted by soup sandwich
Who said anything about being a hunter? I think bringing up hunting when I wasn't talking about hunting is stupid.

Accusations of stupidity aside, I've never seen any evidence to suggest that accidental (or even intentional) shootings occur more often in single-gun homes than in multiple gun homes. Of course I've never seen the opposite either. But if you had to guess, do you think more shootings occur in single-gun homes or multiple-gun homes? I think the latter.

The bottom line is if I find out my neighbor owns one gun, I'm fine with it. If I find out he owns five guns, it makes me uncomfortable. Reasonable minds may differ.

You said that you had a problem with people who own more than one gun, but you are not anti-gun. I still say that's stupid whether you bring hunters into the equation or not.

I haven't seen any statistics either but I'd be willing to bet that most fatal shootings take place in single-gun homes. So, since neither of us has statistics to back us up, where does that leave us? I guess it leaves us thinking that the other is stupid.

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by Not Bob
It actually was pretty amusing. A nice bit of entertainment that the whole family could -- and did -- go see this weekend.

Didn't see the movie (and probably won't because I hate it when Jim Carrey takes himself seriously), but I laughed my ass off at Ace Ventura. and Dumb and Dumber. His stand up act is the best I've ever seen too. Asslicker should get down off his high horse.

[barely_legal]

Originally posted by Not Bob
It actually was pretty amusing. A nice bit of entertainment that the whole family could -- and did -- go see this weekend.

My brothers want to go see it and I'll probably take them to see it this weekend. Of course, that will make me part of the lowest common denominator of society, but it seems that's a place where I'm comfortable.

[soup sandwich]

Originally posted by barely_legal
You said that you had a problem with people who own more than one gun, but you are not anti-gun. I still say that's stupid whether you bring hunters into the equation or not.

I said this: I am not anti-gun, but I am anti-"own a whole bunch of guns".

Originally posted by barely_legal
I haven't seen any statistics either but I'd be willing to bet that most fatal shootings take place in single-gun homes. So, since neither of us has statistics to back us up, where does that leave us? I guess it leaves us thinking that the other is stupid.

Agreed.

[evenodds]

Originally posted by barely_legal
. . . the judgmental crap on this board is starting to wear thin. Ok, it's cool that you don't like Jim Carrey. Even understandable. But to say that everyone who likes his movies is the "lowest common denominator" is snotty and elitist. Seriously, do you think that everybody who likes things that you don't like is less intelligent and "beneath" you?

I will see the movie on netflix because I don't go to the theather for anything but event films.

I enjoy Jim Carrey movies. I loved Truman Show and Man on the Moon. I really enjoyed liar, liar and the Ace Ventura movies. I also loved him on In Living Color.

I have to agree with Barely about the judgmental nonsense. I don't like most of the music you like, but I don't look down on any of you because you like the alt-flavor of the month.

Yet, I suspect that if I mentioned I loved the lyric: "I love you like a fat kid loves cake," you'd say I was wrong for that.

E/O

PS House Party was on this weekend. Now that takes me back to my college days . . .

[soup sandwich]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Sounds like a good story that, unfortunately, would be outable.

It is a good story, if I do say so myself. But everyone at my firm knows about it.