Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[ms. naughty diplomat]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
So you are saying that the male wants to play bottom? I mean, he wouldn't need a strap-on to fuck her in the ass. I think your friend is leaping with the "hetero couples" thing -- she may be hetero, but the dude wanting to be ass-fucked has either bi or gay tendencies. NTTAWTT.

Listen, I ain't judging. It isn't my place to judge. It is simply my opinion that men into ass-fucking, whether giving or receiving, aren't being true to themselves or their partners if they claim totally hetero.

wow, so you say that your aren't being judgemental but yet you are sure based on your opinion that guys who would want to have anal sex with a woman wearing a strap on is gay or has latent homosexual tendencies. excuse me for being stupid, but isn't that judging people???

but in any case, i think that your reasoning is very spurious - there is a subsegment of the bdsm community that is into something called "forced feminization" or "sissifyication" - where basically a dominant woman will play the "traditional male" role while a submissive man will play the "traditional female" role. naturally in such a scene, the strap on would play an essential role. i believe that most of the attraction of people who participate in those type of scenes is that the traditional gender roles are being reversed and the male is submitting to the woman. but to get to the point, a guy who is receiving anal sex from a dominatrix with a strap on is doing it because he wants to submit to a woman - not another man. thus, although it is probably a safe bet that such a couple consists of a dominant woman and a submissive man, it is unlikely that the man is gay or bisexual (because it would probably be way easier for a guy who is into anal simulation to find a gay guy to do it than a dominatrix).

ms. naughty diplomat

[chickenshit regular]

I had a rather edgy sexual relationship with one former gf. She was rather skilled at the whole prostate massage thing, and done right, it is all its cracked up to be. After getting me comfortable with that concept, she introduced the idea of butt plugs and cock rings. Guys, if you've got a partner who is into new things, don't hesitate to give it a try. Her on top, with cockring and butt plug. You will see stars. We were going to try the strap on thing, but the relationship ended before we got to it.

Chickenshit (because the current gf sometimes checks out this board and does not know the extent of the prior relationship) Regular

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by evenodds
That's very big of you.



Maybe it's just me, but an essential element of a succesesful relationship is creativity and experimentation. In and out of the bedrooom.

E/O

And if you were big like me, you would add that your saying that does not mean that other people cannot have wildly successful relationships without sexual experimentation and thus should not be prohibited from leading what you believe is a sexually boring or stunted life.

[evenodds]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
And if you were big like me, you would add that your saying that does not mean that other people cannot have wildly successful relationships without sexual experimentation and thus should not be prohibited from leading what you believe is a sexually boring or stunted life.

Actually, you implied that anyone who feels the need to experiment should look inside their relationship ("It is possible that you could discover that another lover can "do it" for you without toys or a finger up the ass and maybe you would prefer that.").

I was simply disagreeing with your judgment about relationships unlike yours, not condemning your position.

I am happy you have found a satisfying relationship with someone you love.

[ms. naughty diplomat]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
And if you were big like me, you would add that your saying that does not mean that other people cannot have wildly successful relationships without sexual experimentation and thus should not be prohibited from leading what you believe is a sexually boring or stunted life.

that is only true if both people in the relationship are into having sexually boring lives. although that may work for your husband and you (although without his opinion that is impossible to know) it would not work for the majority of the people on this board or to the extend that surveys of human sexual behavior can be believed in the united states.

face it, kinkiness and experiementation are normal in a healthy relationship and just because you don't understand the appeal of something you shouldn't judge others for it.

ms. naughty diplomat

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by evenodds
I am happy you have found a satisfying relationship with someone you love.

Who said anything about masturbation?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by evenodds
Actually, you implied that anyone who feels the need to experiment should look inside their relationship . . . .

I thought she implied that it was her husband who is big.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
I sort-of see your point re receiving, but giving? I've always heard that the thrill is that the feeling is "tighter." Like a virgin and all that. Not like "I wish this were a dude who didn't have a vag."

Thrasher's argument makes no sense. It's based on both men and women having asses. Under her reasoning, kissing, blowjobs and handjobs would fall under the same category since both men and women have the requisite body parts to engage in the activity.

I've had anal sex with women* and it was always something to do for a change -- variety. It is tighter, but I don't think it's better than straight up sex or a blow job. It's just something that can be exciting because it's supposed to be taboo. I can't argue either way about having something stuck up my ass, though, as I haven't tried that.

Having anal sex with a woman doesn't mean you have gay tendencies. Having anal sex with a woman while thinking about Tom Selleck+ or Clay Aiken means you have gay tendencies.

TM










* Please note that not one of them was asian.

+ Since I was using closeted gay 80s tv, I was going to go with a Riptide reference, but who would have caught it?

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by ms. naughty diplomat
that is only true if both people in the relationship are into sexually boring lives. although that may work for your husband and you (although without his opinion that is impossible to know) it would not work for the majority of the people on this board or to the extend that surveys of human sexual behavior can be believed in the united states.

face it, kinkiness and experiementation in a healthy relationship are normal and just because you don't understand the appeal of something you shouldn't judge others for it.

ms. naughty diplomat

First, I don't think non-kinky non-experimmental sex is boring. Second, I did not feel that I was being judgmental and if it came off that way I either didn't express myself well or everyone is being too quick to label. I believe that it is healthy for people to examine the "why" for things they do, whether sexual or otherwise. Having never said anything like "people who do anything but missionary should die," or "people who use toys are bad," or anything of that nature, I think the venom from the board is unwarranted. That being said, you are all entitled to believe and feel what you want, even if it means labeling anyone who believes or feels otherwise judgmental.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
+ Since I was using closeted gay 80s tv, I was going to go with a Riptide reference, but who would have caught it?

Who wouldn't have? Perry King, Joe Penny, a yacht, a helicopter, it doesn't get more very memorable than that!

[Jack Manfred]

Originally posted by Anne Elk
Changing Rooms is better. The designers actually meet with the neighbors ahead of time, so they have more input about what will be done to the rooms. There is more debate and compromise on Changing Rooms, which makes the whole 30 minutes worth watching. On Trading Spaces the designers tend to be snobby and bullish. "I'm a designer, damn it! Why can't you see my vision?"

Changing Rooms is so much better. First, it's 30 minutes instead of an hour, so it flies by. Second, Carol Smiley is cuter and more personable than Paige Davis, plus, Carol already was a topless model. Third, the designers seem to have more talent and get more input from the neighbors.

I'd never let the Trading Spaces crew into my house, but some of the Changing Rooms rooms look good.

As for the guy who can't stop his running moaning commentary in front of his gf, that's proof of a character flaw... in the gf. The guy's a jerk, but he's probably been that way since puberty. She's the one dating him.

[SlaveNoMore]

Poseur
...wildly successful relationships without sexual experimentation...

So, we can gather that the anarchic haircut and punk sensibilities were all an act?

not7yS

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Jack Manfred

Jack being Jack.

The more you post, the more I love you. How do you feel about kinky experimental sex in every room of the house, if you know what I'm sayin'?

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
So, we can gather that the anarchic haircut and punk sensibilities were all an act?

not7yS

What does that have to do with sex? A haircut and certain sensibilities doesn't tell you anything about my sexual desires any more than it does my penchant for illicit substances -- and I only use that because it always pissed me off that peeople assumed I was some sorta druggie because of the way I looked or the music I chose to listen to.

edited to say that before you all jump, I was not assuming that people who like different sex are anything at all, I simply said that they should examine their "why." In that way, I am not judgmental like those who simply assume one thing must mean the other as well.

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by Jack Manfred
Changing Rooms is so much better. First, it's 30 minutes instead of an hour, so it flies by. Second, Carol Smiley is cuter and more personable than Paige Davis, plus, Carol already was a topless model. Third, the designers seem to have more talent and get more input from the neighbors.

I agree. Except I would not let that sort of new-guy on Changing Rooms (name begins with an A, I think, I will have to go to the website to check - his name is Oliver) into my house. He puts up string and scaffolding in a room and says Voila and wonders why no one is applauding. Although he is kind of cute. But also gay, I suspect. nntawwt

The point of my post however, is until you pointed it out, I had no idea that Trading Spaces was a full hour. I just assumed it dragged. I think I have never paid attention to the time is because the only time I ever watch it is Saturday night when I sometimes look after my friend's baby and I don't really care about where the time is going. Thank you for pointing that out though. Now I feel exceptionally clueless.