Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
I simply said that they should examine their "why."

What, and ruin the fun? How unsexy would that be. Learning about my mother's theories of breast-feeding was certainly informative, but there are some causes for things which are best left unexamined.

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I've had anal sex with women* and it was always something to do for a change -- variety.

I've noticed that for some men, anal sex is bragging rights. I was mortified to learn that Mr. Kiss has discussed this topic in various company, including his brother (who gets it regularly from his wife) and at a bachelor party attended by most of our male friends.

[evenodds]

Originally posted by chickenshit regular
I had a rather edgy sexual relationship with one former gf.

Chickenshit (because the current gf sometimes checks out this board and does not know the extent of the prior relationship) Regular

This raises an interesting question: how much do you tell about your sexual past?

With my current, long-standing relationship, we have opted for minimal disclosure. He doesn't want to know anything about my past, though I ask him questions about his.

[SlaveNoMore]

ThrashersFan
... A haircut and certain sensibilities doesn't tell you anything about my sexual desires any more than it does my penchant for illicit substances -- and I only use that because it always pissed me off that peeople assumed I was some sorta druggie because of the way I looked or the music I chose to listen to....

Actually, that is EXACTLY what the punk rock look was designed to do. It was meant to stand out as a "fuck you" to the status quo and to societal conformity. Just as the color of your shoelaces in your Doc Martens indentified which camp you fell into - of course dyeing your hair pink and sporting it in a spiked mohawk MEANT something. Especially back a few years.

You apparently did it to piss off your folks.

As I said - POSEUR

nopt7y(which is French for Asshat)S

[lawyer_princess]

NCS: The great thing about sex is that people can experiment within the confines of a relationship with [blah, blah, blah].

Less: Fucking conformist.

NCS: I am much less of a Fucking conformist than Thrashers Fan is. Comparitively, I am a Fucking non-conformist.

Me: I think Less's point is that you don't have to be within the confines of a relationship. As long as everyone involved is a consenting adult, it really doesn't matter if you're on a first name basis.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
What does that have to do with sex? A haircut and certain sensibilities doesn't tell you anything about my sexual desires any more than it does my penchant for illicit substances -- and I only use that because it always pissed me off that peeople assumed I was some sorta druggie because of the way I looked or the music I chose to listen to.

edited to say that before you all jump, I was not assuming that people who like different sex are anything at all, I simply said that they should examine their "why." In that way, I am not judgmental like those who simply assume one thing must mean the other as well.

I think people are now going to jump about the illicit substances part of the post.

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by lawyer_princess
I think Less's point is that you don't have to be within the confines of a relationship. As long as everyone involved is a consenting adult, it really doesn't matter if you're on a first name basis.

I like the way this statement leaves open the FMF, MMM, FFF, FFMFFF, etc. possibilities with the use of the term "everyone." Nicely done.

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Actually, that is EXACTLY what the punk rock look was designed to do. It was meant to...
nopt7y(which is French for Asshat)S

Oh man, are we going to get into that "don't judge me by how I look/of course the way you look sends a message" debate again?

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore

Actually, that is EXACTLY what the punk rock look was designed to do. It was meant to stand out as a "fuck you" to the status quo and to societal conformity. Just as the color of your shoelaces in your Doc Martens indentified which camp you fell into - of course dyeing your hair pink and sporting it in a spiked mohawk MEANT something. Especially back a few years.

You apparently did it to piss off your folks.

As I said - POSEUR

nopt7y(which is French for Asshat)S

I don't get your connection between saying "fuck you" to the status quo and societal conformity and the necessity that one engage in kinky sex. Are you saying that anyone who didn't engage in various exploratory or kinky acts could not possibly understand the beliefs underlying the punk rock "movement?" I disagree with you. I knew many people early on (not early 1970s early on but late 1970s early 1980s early) who were actually virgins (GASP). I guess that means they were poseurs in your book. I had respect for my parents, they didn't interfere with what I wanted to do and thus what I did was in no way intended to piss them off nor did it.

The pitcher/catcher discussion reminded me of a story ripped from the an(n)als of history:

http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~lofty/pujol.htm

[spree: story about a man, nay a "fartiste," who "by contracting his abdomen muscles, could intentionally take up as much water as he liked and eject it in a powerful stream"]

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
I've noticed that for some men, anal sex is bragging rights. I was mortified to learn that Mr. Kiss has discussed this topic in various company, including his brother (who gets it regularly from his wife) and at a bachelor party attended by most of our male friends.

I think you're right. It's probably because of the myth that once a woman lets you fuck her up the ass, you've completely "conquered her." I've had discussions of the locker room variety, where guys who have been dumped say things like, "If she invites me to her wedding, I'll just whisper in the groom's ear that she likes it in the ass." The worst kind of insult I guess?

TM

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan

edited to say that before you all jump, I was not assuming that people who like different sex are anything at all, I simply said that they should examine their "why."

Why would the "why" be any different for anal sex (or any other "kinky" sex) than for regular, mercenary position sex? The answer usually is because it feels good.

Besides, a male's distaste for anal sex could just as easily lead to an inference of homosexuality--perhaps he's afraid that he'll like it and realize he really is gay. Perhaps your husband should ask why he isn't interested in anal sex.

[Oliver_Wendell_Ramone]

I don't get your connection between saying "fuck you" to the status quo and societal conformity and the necessity that one engage in kinky sex. Are you saying that anyone who didn't engage in various exploratory or kinky acts could not possibly understand the beliefs underlying the punk rock "movement?" I disagree with you. I knew many people early on (not early 1970s early on but late 1970s early 1980s early) who were actually virgins (GASP). I guess that means they were poseurs in your book. I had respect for my parents, they didn't interfere with what I wanted to do and thus what I did was in no way intended to piss them off nor did it.

Oh gawd, you hung with straight-edge kids, didn't you? (though that really didn't hit until early-to-mid 80s, I spose). No booze, no drugs, and for the true believers, no sex? Fuck that. I'll hang with Sid Vicious and Johnny Thunders (oh, wait....)

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by Jack Manfred

I'd never let the Trading Spaces crew into my house, but some of the Changing Rooms rooms look good.

I have not had an opportunity to see Trading Spaces but am a fan of Changing Rooms. One question I have is this: On CR they made it a point in one of their end-of-year specials to state that they have NEVER changed a room back and never will (I think it was in response to a question about the time a room was done up in red, white and black with a sort of bordello theme). Has there even been comment about this on TS and did they also say that changing back would be the responsiblity of the individual and not the show? This leads one to wonder what sort of releases are signed (in the USA rather than the less lawsuit-happy UK). Having seen people cry on CR before (not out of joy) I would love to see a revisit to follow the so-called friends when one feels that the other simply fucked up their house. The long and short of it is that you could be into some money to put your room back in order and would likely be especially perturbed if everyone is happy with the room you did for the person who screwed up yours.

[ABBAKiss]

a bunch of stuff about asking why

Damn am I thirsty. I have an overwhelming craving for a Bud Dry.