Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
You may unveil within your family circle, but not in public.

... that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons ...

Dude, that says cover their bosoms and not display themselves, not that they should hide their faces. (I guess it depends on what body parts you think are central to beauty.) I thought a more traditional interpretation was "dress modestly" which often includes covering the hair (hair traditionally being a woman's chief beauty in much of the world), and everything else was tribal gloss on a basic "don't go around like a ho" statement.

And no jingling. Who knew?

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

Yeah, I'm sure he was chillin' with the Sigma Chis on a regular basis. I went to law school with one of these purported "boy geniuses," who was about 18 when he started law school. As best I could tell, he spent the entire time he was not in class back in his apartment with his mom.

I went to college with one who chilled with the stoners all the time. By junior year, he was grading chem and math finals while drunk or stoned.

"Asked how she thought she would do if tempted to play against men, Williams smiled and delivered a quick response: 'I wouldn't be tempted.'''
http://espn.go.com/tennis/french03/s...rtnersite=espn

Heh, after that German dude ranked like 200 schooled you and Venus in back to back sets 6-1 and 6-2, damned right you won't be trying any men's tournaments.

[ms. naughty diplomat]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Actually, that is EXACTLY what the punk rock look was designed to do. It was meant to stand out as a "fuck you" to the status quo and to societal conformity. Just as the color of your shoelaces in your Doc Martens indentified which camp you fell into - of course dyeing your hair pink and sporting it in a spiked mohawk MEANT something. Especially back a few years.

i think that if you generalize the existance of a single "punk" rock look that you lose any creditibility to discuss the subject. without the punk attitude, wearing a multicolored spiked mohawk is just a fashion statement as devoid of meaning as anything off the shelf of the gap (which is what i understood slave's point to be).

slave is probably correct at least at some level that there are sexual connotations to having a punk rock look. it is undoubtably true that early punk rock fashion owed a lot to bdsm and fetish wear. as anyone who has read Please Kill Me: The Uncensored Oral History of Punk knows there, were clear connections between the bdsm community in new york and the early punks - people like stiv bators wouldn't just dress in dog collars and other gear associated with bdsm, they would frequent new york's bdsm clubs. and of course, malcolm mclaren sold bdsm fashion at his shop in london where the sex pistols were put together so it wasn't just the new york punks who had a heavy influence of bdsm / fetish wear.

i mean come on, i'd think that even thrashers fan would agree that if someone is going out in public wearing a studded leather dog collar that em is sending a message which implies non-vanilla sexual behavior.

ms. naughty diplomat

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Dude, that says cover their bosoms and not display themselves, not that they should hide their faces. (I guess it depends on what body parts you think are central to beauty.)

Yes, but Muhammad often illustrated and applied ambiguous Qur'anic principles in the stories recounted as hadith, such as the one I mentioned in which he pointed to the eyes and hands. So if you believe this hadith, he "clarified" what was meant by a woman's beauty. Either you believe that or you don't, but the Wahhabi have something to point to when they justify their rules.

I thought a more traditional interpretation was "dress modestly" which often includes covering the hair (hair traditionally being a woman's chief beauty in much of the world), and everything else was tribal gloss on a basic "don't go around like a ho" statement.

Considering the fact that all but the most conservative Christians have ignored 1 Corinthians 11:6 since the turn of the last century, I think it's safe to say that interpretations of scriptural dress traditions are culturally relative.

[LessinSF]

I had no idea this was televised. That's great. I also found the round 2 words:

1. hubbub
2. loneliness
3. cologne
4. definitely
5. athlete
6. Doppler
7. annul
8. currant
9. piedmont
10. auxiliary
11. circadian
12. atoll
13. occludent
14. avatar
15. cutigeral
16. grok
17. pervicacious
18. corbel
19. solivagant
20. piscivorous
21. aubergine
22. pareiasaur
23. mycetismus
24. bodhran
25. werowance

Not that they are tested on vocabulary, but I was disappointed to only know the meaning of 18 of them.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by LessinSF
Not that they are tested on vocabulary, but I was disappointed to only know the meaning of 18 of them.

Since I can only get up to 17, and Less can't possibly have a more cromulent vocabulary than yours truly, I can only conclude that "corbel" has something to do with the alcohol brand with a homophonic name.

[LessinSF]

I suspect it is from me living in Ireland for a semester and spending too much time drinking with street buskers.

[evenodds]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Since I can only get up to 17, and Less can't possibly have a more cromulent vocabulary than yours truly, I can only conclude that "corbel" has something to do with the alcohol brand with a homophonic name.

I'm the dummy tonight.

Ahem, 16.

Originally posted by Jack Manfred
I had more of a problem with them declining to pass along a few pointers in the oral sex department. This was long ago, and I didn't realize the variety in ability levels among women.

Were it not for the lovely slut I hung with when I was 18, posts like these would make me nervous. But she told me about that whole suction thing and much more. Hopefully I can rest assured that my epitaph will read "she gave good head".

Guys, can you tell before physical relations occur on any level, including kissing, whether a gal would be any good at giving head? I suspect that the answer is yes, as I have a feeling I can tell which of my friends would be great at it and which would suck, no pun. I definitely have friends where, while I am listening to them talk, I am thinking, man she must suck in bed. And friends who are the opposite.

And onto tennis. Yesterday was officially hottie day at the French. The two new Kournikovas, one who is a cute girl who doesnt look like Anna, Ashley Harkleroad, and one who is a tall anorexic resembling Paulina Poriskova as a lollipop, Daniella Hatuchova played, and Ashley, a new American Tennis magazine has touted won, sending the blowpop packing. A total babefest for the boys and leagl I am sure.

And yesterday was the paigow dream match, Phillipoussis v Moya. Sadly it came in the second round, meaning only one of them will be around, and likely it wouldnt be televised. (Which it wasnt, so I missed my beautiful Phillipoussis- why oh why the bad draw karma?). Especially since that Agassi thriller played at the same time. I haven't been to the office all week.

Originally posted by evenodds
Edited to remove specifics from question.

I am having lunch with him tomorrow, so I'd love the patented Slave insights to parry with.

Thoughts?

You are having lunch with thrasher's husband? Are you the mistress in question?

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
$100 says your husband either is

(a) a Gold card member of the local whorehouse,

(b) has a few mistresses in that cowtown of yours, or

(c) gay

not7y(oral sex is as vanilla as it gets - fucking A)S

Actually, none of the above. And I wonder why a guy who gets pretty much daily blow jobs and intercourse would go anywhere else. Just because I don't let him perform orally on me? That's kinda strange -- I always wondered about that because I just don't see how a guy would get pleasure out of it. Anyway, I spoke with him last night about this whole thing and he said:

1. What the fuck kinda lawyers are you talking to that anal sex would be discussed?
2. Why do you label our sex vanilla? I think blow-jobs, doggy-style and you on top are a bit more than vanilla. He was especially curious about the vanilla label inasmuch as I have a tendency to like to fuck him while we are driving back from a game or such. Apparently all of those other lawyers have anal sex because that is basically all that we don't do. *Personally, I never considered any of these things to be outside of vanilla-sex but apparently he does.*
3. Why would I want to fuck you in the ass when there are two other holes that you and I enjoy using?

Cowtown, that's funny. If I had the time I would let the other 3.6 million people here know that we live in a cowtown. It ain't NYC, but it certainly is not a cowtown and with 500 people per day moving in (recent report) I feel bad for the cows who will obviously be displaced.

[bridge of love]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
You may unveil within your family circle, but not in public. Obviously, there was no photography in seventh century Arabia, so who knows?

the Jewish equivalent called "wigheads" among the less religous, would allow other women to see them sans wig. is the Koran restriction only as to men? perhaps Fla. could accomadate her with a private photo room to unveil, with only women.

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by ms. naughty diplomat
i mean come on, i'd think that even thrashers fan would agree that if someone is going out in public wearing a studded leather dog collar that em is sending a message which implies non-vanilla sexual behavior.

ms. naughty diplomat

I would tend to agree. I didn't wear one. I was not one of the girls who wore revealing or sexually-charged clothing -- I preferred being in the Pit and thus high-heels and stockings weren't gonna cut it. I admit that I knew many people who were very sexually active and there was a lot of passing girls around -- I was more into the music and such so while my guy friends were busy fucking the flavor of the moment and passing her on I was setting up stages, helping bands get gigs and writing for underground zines. People who knew me understood that I was normally in a committed relationship with someone and wasn't interested in the casual sex aspect of the scene. It was people outside of the scene who felt that a punk appearance gave them free rein to take what they wanted even if they had to beat you silly for it.

[barely_legal]

I don't know if y'all can link to this page without a subscription, but there is a letter to the Salon advice column that states that "there is an unwritten rule that the guy should not be the very first one to say "I love you" in a relationship, and I think for good reason. "

http://salon.com/sex/col/tenn/2003/0...hur/index.html

Whaaaa? Is this really an unwritten rule? I don't like this rule.

Also, I'm late to the anal discussion, but although I've never engaged in it, I've never been particularly against it until I heard here that it gave men "bragging rights." Now there's no way I'm ever going to have anal sex with a guy unless I have serious blackmail-worthy information about him sufficient to deter him from bragging to all and sundry about my bedroom proclivities (I'm compensating b/c I only knew the meaning of 13 words on that spelling list).