Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by JustForFun
There is no way that post was written by a woman.

And why not? By the way, he sucked.

[Mister_Ruysbroeck]

Originally posted by JustForFun
There is no way that post was written by a woman.

While she may act like a man at times and is probably in lust with a number of women, unlike you, many of us can verify that ABBA is, in fact, a woman -- or a convincing cross-dresser.

(love those commas)

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by purse junkie
If you're so hot, and so freaked out about what exact age you look, how come you like to go out with guys who look so much older than you? You enjoy the arm-candy-younger-mistress-of-a-more-powerful-married-man aura when you go out on the town?

Why are you wasting your time talking to patentgreedy or an incredible facsimile?

TM

[Tyrone Slothrop]

JFF, you are now boring me. Speaking of lame-ass articles from Slate, maybe this can get this board to talk about something other than you:

Dear Prudence,

I have been married for three years, and it seems that my husband has a slight problem with porn videos. They really make me uncomfortable. I feel that our sexual relationship is fine, but it bothers me when I may come home from work and find a DVD on that he forgot to turn off by mistake. (I think he sneaks watching them because he knows that I disapprove.) He now says he only watches them to get sexual tips for when we have sex, which is hard for me to believe because I haven't noticed a significant change in how we make love. His habit makes me feel as if I'm not satisfying his sexual appetite or that something is missing. Is it usual for men to engage in this type of behavior, or is it possible that I'm facing a serious problem here?

—Asking Seriously

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by JustForFun
Well go back and read it again shit for brains. I describe a completely consensual situation and detect an element of sex is power in it, and then the genius known as ABBAKiss calls me a rapist.

I then point out that rape is when there is no consent and violence, and argue that a fully consensual situation where there is an element of sexual power is not a rape because there is consent, and then shit for brains you thinks that means power = consent.

OK paigow, you can have your board back. Although flames won't chase me away, sheer stupidity will.

Reading Tyrone's lame ass Slate.com and Salon.com articles sure beats arguing with morons.

You're the fucking idiot. In the post that Bilmore responded to with the Lewinski scenario, you stated "Rape is when sex = violence and there is no consent. Sex = power is an entirely different concept, one that always includes consent as I see it. If it doesn't include consent, then back to sex = violence."

See the sentence there where YOU say that Sex=power ALWAYS includes consent? Go back to your post and read it again.

I'd be happy to chase you away from this board, but it's not from my stupidity. It's from your making idiotic comments and being totally unable to own up to them.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Fuck Biggie.

He sounded like he had a fist sized wad of taffy stuck in his mouth, or he'd just left the dentist's office and his mouth, jaw, lips and tongue were still numb from novacaine.

I don't miss his ass one bit and am amazed he's thrown into the pantheon of great rappers such as Dre, Ice Cube and Chuck D. He's not worthy to wash their jockstarps.

S("... sometimes your [supposed] words just [mystify] me...")D

And I thought you might have known something about rap from some of your other posts.

TM

[evenodds]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
See the sentence there where YOU say that Sex=power ALWAYS includes consent? Go back to your post and read it again.

I'd be happy to chase you away from this board, but it's not from my stupidity. It's from your making idiotic comments and being totally unable to own up to them.

Are you saying that JFF misrepresents "her" own posts?

I am shocked, shocked.

[JustForFun]

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
You just agreed with me. I never said power is an element of rape, or that all rape is motivated by power. I said that you are wrong that power has nothing to do with rape.

OK - now I see the problem, you don't seem to understand English. Here, read my post really slowly and out loud, that should help you.

I said that authors and those that study it DISAGREE (D-I-S-A-G-R-E-E) whether it has to do with violence, power OR a combination of both. I then went on to say that this is not something that you can PROVE (P-R-O-V-E) like say the melting point of ice (melting point is the temperature at which a solid will become a liquid).

I agree with those who see rape as an act of violence. However, I acknowledge that there are those who disagree.

Let's compare that to your argument which can be summarized as "What I say is true and THAT's THAT."

Originally posted by ABBAKiss When you said you enjoy the power you feel when having sex with your boyfriend, it sounded like a *wannabe* rapist to me.

Like what you were calling Slave.[/b]

Based on what did it sound like rape to you? I describe a completely consensual sex act between me and my boyfriend where he is way turned on by my firm ass and perky breasts. Where is the rape in this mutually consensual act?!??!?

Let's compare Slave's actions. Slave says he would shove his cock in my mouth to shut me up. Where is the consent in that fact pattern? Do you not see the violence in that?

Do you honestly see a similarity between the fact pattern I described and the fact pattern that Slave described? Or are you just trying to be annoyingly stupid to the point I go back to the politics board to argue with people who at least understand simple concepts like consent?

[tmdiva]

Had some musician friends over on Sunday, and we had an informal mini-recital. Here's what I sang:

http://www.content.loudeye.com/scrip...113_07_0002.ra

http://www.content.loudeye.com/scrip...106_07_0002.ra

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http://www.content.loudeye.com/scrip...210_07_0002.ra

tm
for your listening pleasure

[bilmore]

Originally posted by JustForFun
OK - now I see the problem, you don't seem to understand English. Here, read my post really slowly and out loud, that should help you.

(I like to read these boards to pick up new debating techniques from pros.)

Power implies, power over something or someone. You seem to like the idea that the older guy is that much more desperate for sex with sweet young thangs, because it allows you to exert an inordinate amount of sexual/relational power over him. This takes your relationship out of a true "equals" setting, and gives you an upper hand in some ways, and it sounds as if that exact feeling of power is what wets your whistle. (Yes, I understand that you seldom call it a "whistle", but . . .) All that was said was, that desire on your part for such power makes you as suspect as you seem to view slave in the realm of consensual, equal sexual relationships.

Now, was that so hard? (I know, another inapt pun.)

[JustForFun]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
You're the fucking idiot. In the post that Bilmore responded to with the Lewinski scenario, you stated "Rape is when sex = violence and there is no consent. Sex = power is an entirely different concept, one that always includes consent as I see it. If it doesn't include consent, then back to sex = violence."

See the sentence there where YOU say that Sex=power ALWAYS includes consent? Go back to your post and read it again.

I'd be happy to chase you away from this board, but it's not from my stupidity. It's from your making idiotic comments and being totally unable to own up to them.

The problem is that you've misunderstood what I said. I never said power equals consent. I said that if there is no consent it is rape, pure and simple. And I said that rape is about violence.

I also said that the violence of a rape is a different concept than the interplay between sex and power, which I see as a consensual situation. I was talking about the very fact pattern I described in which my b/f and I have consensual hot sex because my body is so hot and it turns him on hugely. There was no issue of consent in that fact pattern I described, which ABBAKiss said was a rape.

I also explained, if there had been no consent, then it would be about rape, which is an act of violence.

Remember how we got onto this topic. I described a mutually consensual sexual situation where I also saw a sex and power interplay and ABBAKiss called that a rape. I disagreed that it was a rape because there was consent (had there not been it would be that violent act known as a rape). My point was and is that I don't see the interplay between sex and power in a mutually consensual sex act as a rape situation, and therefore, I think it was wierd and wrong that ABBAKiss saw that as a rape. How can there be a rape when there is consent?

JFF: "A bunch of stuff I ignored and also the part someone quoted that JFF is promising to leave the board that I perked up at."

I thought you said you were leaving. Buh-by now. Go have some "hot-as-hell" sex with your old fart or something and stop annoying us.

-TL

[bilmore]

Originally posted by JustForFun Remember how we got onto this topic. I described a mutually consensual sexual situation where I also saw a sex and power interplay and ABBAKiss called that a rape.

Actually, you calling Slave a wannabe-rapist is what truly got us into this topic. If you can make assertions like that, based on no evidence, we are certainly entitled to do the same. Tat for tit.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by JustForFun
Remember how we got onto this topic.

No, I don't. I was ignoring you. I was specifcially responding to Bilmore's post, which in turn specifically responded to your post where you said that Sex=power always includes consent.

[ABBAKiss]

JFF wrote: Based on what did it sound like rape to you?

AK responds: Nothing made it sound like rape to me. I never said anything sounded like rape. I said your power high in conjunction with the sex made you sound like a wannabe rapist.

You continue to miss my point, which is that when you say power has nothing to do with rape, you are wrong.