Politics As Usual

[Gin Rummy]

Originally posted by Mister_Ruysbroeck
For the record, I am a Republican and I resent the suggestion that my "censorship" of those images was based on politics as opposed to simply enforcing the rules of this website.

STFU, indeed.

Technically maybe son, but the more correct term to this rightminded W supporter would seem to be "RINO".

Say hi to Mayor Bloomberg for me.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by Gin Rummy
Technically maybe son, but the more correct term to this rightminded W supporter would seem to be "RINO".

Say hi to Mayor Bloomberg for me.

With the use of that last phrase, I'd like to clarify that you are not me.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Not Me
Bury your head in the sand and weep your crocodile tears over the "torture" at Abu Ghraib. Forget those who died on 9/11 at your own peril. I won't forget and won't let some fucking cocksucker like you intimidate me.

I must have missed the memo. Did we finally discover a link between Iraq and Al Qaeda? Did someone tie the Abu Ghraib prisoners to 9/11? Was the Iraqi general that US soldiers murdered* the hijackers' secret commander?


*you know, the general who was killed in that act of self-defense that SgtClub referred to -- where they just had to asphyxiate and beat him to death after tying him up in a sleeping bag because if they hadn't, he might have burst from the sleeping bag, ripped off his arm and leg shackles, and bitch-slapped an American with his penis?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Well, it does appear to be helping AQ recruiting.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...mi_ea/al_qaida

18000= (20000 trained while someone, who I can't mention or I lose, did nothing) - 2000 killed. Bush has a long way to go to beat the 20K number.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Mister_Ruysbroeck
For the record, I am a Republican and I resent the suggestion that my "censorship" of those images was based on politics as opposed to simply enforcing the rules of this website.

STFU, indeed.

What rule? Serious question.

Personally I don't think 9/11 pictures should be censored. We should all remember. And I can't see how viewing those pictures would cause anyone problems at work, which in my view is the only reason to censor pics here.

Today's ridiculous, persistent references to 9/11 as justifying anything in Iraq are a misuse and a shameful dishonor of the people who died on 9/11, but that's besides the point.

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Today's ridiculous, persistent references to 9/11

It would be nice if it were a one-day-only kind of thing, actually, but it's been going on for almost three years now.

[Mister_Ruysbroeck]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
What rule? Serious question.

Personally I don't think 9/11 pictures should be censored. We should all remember. And I can't see how viewing those pictures would cause anyone problems at work, which in my view is the only reason to censor pics here.

Today's ridiculous, persistent references to 9/11 as justifying anything in Iraq are a misuse and a shameful dishonor of the people who died on 9/11, but that's besides the point.

This rule.

The 9/11 pictures weren't edited into links. The pics of burned corpses were.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by ironweed
It would be nice if it were a one-day-only kind of thing, actually, but it's been going on for almost three years now.

Yes, but it reaches new levels when the neo-cons have nothing else to say. Confronted with the reality that Americans are torturing prisoners, and with steadily increasing evidence that this was not a few isolated instances but rather a systemic and systematic procedure that was approved and supported high up in the chain of command, and all they can do* is claim some connection to 9/11.



* well, not all they can do. They can also lie about what actually occurred, by claiming that it was nothing but making people wear panties on their head when even the admissions of the US military -- not to mention photos published in every major newspaper -- demonstrate that it is far, far more.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Mister_Ruysbroeck
The 9/11 pictures weren't edited into links. The pics of burned corpses were.

Ah. Forgive the misunderstanding. Having seen Not Me's silliness and screed once, I had no interest in looking back to see what the edits were.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Not Me
Fuck you asshole. There is nothing amusing about my post. You are so blinded by partisanship that you cannot even remember what the word torture means!!!!

You know, sweetie. As someone who is so often literal and humorless -- I would reccommend that you invest in a good dictionary and study hard. A better grasp of what words actually mean might help you in your posting.

You seem to have had real trouble recently with the use of such words as torture, indicia, and totalitarian. I think these issues hold you back from achieving the true heights of posting greatness to which you aspire.

For example, as to the Fallujah incident -- There is no definition of torture which would encompass an RPG to a car which causes an explosion and burns the occupants alive. Nor is mutilating, abusing, or hanging a corpse torture. {The fourth guy, who got out of the car to be shot in the chest and beaten to death -- maybe.}

Anyway, just a suggestion, for what its worth. Now, how about showing us another animated rendering of your cooter?

S_A_M

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
18000= (20000 trained while someone, who I can't mention or I lose, did nothing) - 2000 killed.

Hitler could have stopped 9/11? Oh, the humanity! Wonder at the moral tarbaby! It's like a bad undergraduate philosophy hypo --- gone bad!

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Yes, but it reaches new levels when the neo-cons have nothing else to say. Confronted with the reality that Americans are torturing prisoners, and with steadily increasing evidence that this was not a few isolated instances but rather a systemic and systematic procedure that was approved and supported high up in the chain of command, and all they can do* is claim some connection to 9/11.

Accord.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/26/po...rint&position=

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Yes, but it reaches new levels when the neo-cons have nothing else to say. Confronted with the reality that Americans are torturing prisoners, and with steadily increasing evidence that this was not a few isolated instances but rather a systemic and systematic procedure that was approved and supported high up in the chain of command, and all they can do* is claim some connection to 9/11.



* well, not all they can do. They can also lie about what actually occurred, by claiming that it was nothing but making people wear panties on their head when even the admissions of the US military -- not to mention photos published in every major newspaper -- demonstrate that it is far, far more.

Damn Sidd, just when I thought you were becoming reasonable.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
quote:

I am not endorsing Not Me or Gin Rummy's text or opinions, no offence, but they should be able to post the pics as long as they are relevant to the point of the speech and/or the debate.

My .02

No post by Gin Rummy has anything to do with a debate or a point.

S_A_M

[SlaveNoMore]

Sidd Finch
Confronted with the reality that Americans are torturing prisoners, and with steadily increasing evidence that this was not a few isolated instances but rather a systemic and systematic procedure that was approved and supported high up in the chain of command...

Neither you or I has actually seen or heard any such thing. There have been hearsay reports, wishful thinking of investigative reporters, and the testimony of one computer analyst sargeant who actually saw nothing but tesitified as to what he heard.

And until I see further proof [or any proof], I refuse to believe this was anything more than the result of an understaffed, overworked, overheated, undertrained reserve regiment misusing their command and misusing interrogation tactics for all the wrong reasons.

Notwithstanding this, I am utterly disappointed that more heads aren't rolling over this. This is an utter disgrace to the veterans of this country and the men and women of this country who serve in the armed forces with honor.

I would personally make the guilty serve time in Gitmo to show the rest of the world we care.