Keeping it civil instead of returning to our dark ways

[Watchtower]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I don't know, but stop it. Now I'm as horny as Less.

From the Bush twins to over-the-hill born agains -- you are polymorphous!

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by Watchtower
If you're going to characterize all things rational as being gay, well, then, I certainly hope Kerry is for all things gay. I do not think he is quite there however, and one can only hope he will get gayer over the course of his administration.

Don't make me get a dictionary definition here. Simply, he is no more opposed to gay marriage than a pedophile is to molesting children. John Kerry is all for gay.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
since no one listens to recorded phone calls, its no harm no foul.

Why, then, are presumably rational, self-interested profit-maximizers spending $$$ on sending these messages?

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Why, then, are presumably rational, self-interested profit-maximizers spending $$$ on sending these messages?

imperfect information /good salesmanship by someone

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
But that doesn't mean he's against gay marriage. In fact, he says he's opposed, but he's all in favor of state's being able to legalize it, and... see the rest of your quote below:

Does the answer to this question depend on what the definition of "opposed" is? Because the evidence is clear that 1.)he says he's opposed, 2.)but is in fact opposed to opposing it and in favor of allowing it to be legalized.

He's opposed to gay marriage, but thinks it should be an issue for the states, not the federal government. Are you saying that you don't understand a dedication to federalism?

[Watchtower]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Don't make me get a dictionary definition here. Simply, he is no more opposed to gay marriage than a pedophile is to molesting children. John Kerry is all for gay.

If you begin by saying you don't believe what he says and will determine what he means without listening to him, it is possible to conclude that he means just about anything.

Listen to the man. He is not advocating that gay marriage come to a state near you; very much, unfortunately, the opposite.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Don't make me get a dictionary definition here. Simply, he is no more opposed to gay marriage than a pedophile is to molesting children. John Kerry is all for gay.

OK, this is both objectively wrong and borderline offensive (in the parallel, however intended, between homosexuality and pedophilia).

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
Well, she DOES like golden showers, but that story didn't get any traction in the polls, so I changed tracks a bit.

Am I alone, or does Bush's wife look to anyone else like she has about three brain cells careening around a very large empty skull? Why in the hell does the press laud someone like her as having "class" just because she's quiet? And why do they call his mom the "Silver Fox"? Jesus Christ... thats false advertising along the lines of "Twinkies! The ultimately cholestrol lowering health food!" "Fox"?! "Fox"?! She's silver, but she's more of a silver shar-pei than a silver fox. Lets be a little fucking honest here. The woman is a tad past her prime, and if you think "fox" is a nod to her rapier wit, listen to her speak. She's not clever. She's a creepy old WASP. Her blood is two parts gin; one part ice water.

And enough with the fucking Bush nicknames. If I have to hear "poppy", "pappy", "Bar Bar" or any more of the media-consultant-created nicknames cynically puked on the press to give a homey feel to this clan of malevolent terminally-greedy connivers, I'm going to vomit blood. These people are as real as the Kennedys. Calling Kerry fake next to the "real" Bushes is just absurd.

[Watchtower]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
OK, this is both objectively wrong and borderline offensive (in the parallel, however intended, between homosexuality and pedophilia).

I misinterpreted. I thought he was referencing Bush's courting of the Roman Catholic vote with the pederast reference.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
He's opposed to gay marriage, but thinks it should be an issue for the states, not the federal government. Are you saying that you don't understand a dedication to federalism?

So he's more opposed to a large and intrusive federal government than he is to gay marriage? Somebody better tell the democratic party about the possible implications, as the Great Society people are gonna be pissed!


In other news, is the following a freakin joke or something: On the news section of Yahoo's front page right now:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...orn_toss_crazy

Title: Something like "Cornholing catching on outside the U.S."

[Alex_de_Large]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Am I alone, or does Bush's wife look to anyone else like she has about three brain cells careening around a very large empty skull? Why in the hell does the press laud someone like her as having "class" just because she's quiet? And why do they call his mom the "Silver Fox"? Jesus Christ... thats false advertising along the lines of "Twinkies! The ultimately cholestrol lowering health food!" "Fox"?! "Fox"?! She's silver, but she's more of a silver shar-pei than a silver fox. Lets be a little fucking honest here. The woman is a tad past her prime, and if you think "fox" is a nod to her rapier wit, listen to her speak. She's not clever. She's a creepy old WASP. Her blood is two parts gin; one part ice water.

And enough with the fucking Bush nicknames. If I have to hear "poppy", "pappy", "Bar Bar" or any more of the media-consultant-created nicknames cynically puked on the press to give a homey feel to this clan of malevolent terminally-greedy connivers, I'm going to vomit blood. These people are as real as the Kennedys. Calling Kerry fake next to the "real" Bushes is just absurd.

It's better than Ron calling Nancy "Mommy Poopy Pants"

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Don't make me get a dictionary definition here. Simply, he is no more opposed to gay marriage than a pedophile is to molesting children. John Kerry is all for gay.

No. No he's not. He has said, and you should support him on this, that he favors STATES having the right to decide the issue, but that there should be no Constiitutional Amendment on it. And he's right. It is a state issue. And when its rightly left under state control, we will not only have a religious chasm between states, we'll also have a taste chasm.

You right leaning bastards are going to force me to fly somewhere to get a good decorator. Thanks.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
OK, this is both objectively wrong and borderline offensive (in the parallel, however intended, between homosexuality and pedophilia).

This is borderline political correctness. And Watchtower must be standing over my shoulder, because I actually had to erase the reference to Catholic priests to make the statement more offensive to more people.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
OK, this is both objectively wrong and borderline offensive (in the parallel, however intended, between homosexuality and pedophilia).

Its also incorrect. Its priests who like fucking kids. Gays just like fucking each other.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
It's better than Ron calling Nancy "Mommy Poopy Pants"

The Reagans were into scat? Is that what you're implying?

Traitor.