Making Baby Jesus Cry

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Diane Keaton posted pictures of what it looks like when the religion of peace takes a school field trip. Those were disturbing, but I think good disturbing. They were banned.

I'm sure this happened, but I don't recall it. Too much anchovy pizza and Kool-Ade before bedtime.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Actually, the opposite is true. The media self-censored to avoid showing how unpleasant war is. As a rule, bodies were only shown if intact, without major burn damage. See War Without Mercy by John Dower, and Wartime by Paul Fussell.

i'm sorry Ty. i was talking about showing the carnage from the sneak attacks- not that young men die when we have wars. You guys want to show the result of war of course, just not the cause. We simply want the other shown like they used to, so people realize why our friend's husbands might be making the ultimate sacrifice.

Can you see the difference?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
i'm sorry Ty. i was talking about showing the carnage from the sneak attacks- not that young men die when we have wars. You guys want to show the result of war of course. We simply want equal time so people realize why our friend's husbands might be making the ultimate sacrifice.

Can you see the difference?

Actually, I'm really not sure what the fuck you're talking about, but that's not that different from usual. Carry on.

eta: Spanky, I will respond to your CAFTA post, but I'm about to watch a DVD, so it will have to wait. The basic point, is that you are confusing free trade with the libertarian fantasy of a common-law regime in which all of the social legislation of the late-nineteenth and twentieth centuries are rolled back. The rest of us understand that a foreign government can subsidize its own businesses by failing to enforce labor or environmental laws providing basic protections. When our companies try to compete with those companies, they do so on an uneven playing field.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
What happened to all the liberals? Ty is by himself out there. Either we need more liberals or we need to start arguing social issues so I can take Ty's side.

Anyone want to back Bush's position on Stem Cell Research?

Is Bush against Stem Cell Research or Federal funding of Stem Cell Research? Vastly different propositions.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I'm sure this happened, but I don't recall it. Too much anchovy pizza and Kool-Ade before bedtime.

This did happen.

I believe that there have been 4 incidences of censorhip on this board.

1. Your partisan censorship of my Islamofacist posts.

2. Your partisan censorship of DK's posts.

3. RT's content neutral censorship of Wonk's post that may have violated a federal statute.

4. My content neutral censorship of PT's TOS violating spam.

Ty, the past is what it is, but perhaps you can take an oath to not allow your PoV to unfairly affect your administration of the Board, again?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
This did happen.

I believe that there have been 4 incidences of censorhip on this board.

1. Your partisan censorship of my Islamofacist posts.

2. Your partisan censorship of DK's posts.

3. RT's content neutral censorship of Wonk's post that may have violated a federal statute.

4. My content neutral censorship of PT's TOS violating spam.

Ty, the past is what it is, but perhaps you can take an oath to not allow your PoV to unfairly affect your administration of the Board, again?

I don't think there was anything partisan about my censoring of your pictures. I think there is general agreement that pictures should be safe for work, and there was at least some consensus that the charred bodies in your pictures were revolting. To be fair, you posted them because you wanted everyone to see what the Islamists had done.

Notwithstanding that I said I believed I censored DK's posts but do not recall doing so, I think you are taking unfair advantage of my poor memory.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Is Bush against Stem Cell Research or Federal funding of Stem Cell Research? Vastly different propositions.

Yes. But I am for funding stem cell research. One of the governments major responsiblities is to protect us from foreign attacks. Humans aren't the only species that attack humans - viruses etc. In addition, diseases cause a terrible strain to the economy. One of the government biggest priorities should be combatting disease. And that includes stem cell research. If there is one place, besides SDI, I want my tax dollars spent it is in fighting these diseases.

Bush is neglecting his duty to the American people by not vigorously funding stem cell research.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I don't think there was anything partisan about my censoring of your pictures. I think there is general agreement that pictures should be safe for work, and there was at least some consensus that the charred bodies in your pictures were revolting. To be fair, you posted them because you wanted everyone to see what the Islamists had done.

Notwithstanding that I said I believed I censored DK's posts but do not recall doing so, I think you are taking unfair advantage of my poor memory.

Nice try, oath or no oath? the Board is watching.......

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop


eta: Spanky, I will respond to your CAFTA post, but I'm about to watch a DVD, so it will have to wait. The basic point, is that you are confusing free trade with the libertarian fantasy of a common-law regime in which all of the social legislation of the late-nineteenth and twentieth centuries are rolled back. The rest of us understand that a foreign government can subsidize its own businesses by failing to enforce labor or environmental laws providing basic protections. When our companies try to compete with those companies, they do so on an uneven playing field.

For the love of God. You should only respond to my posts when you have ABSOLUTELY nothing else to do.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
Yes. But I am for funding stem cell research. One of the governments major responsiblities is to protect us from foreign attacks. Humans aren't the only species that attack humans - viruses etc. In addition, diseases cause a terrible strain to the economy. One of the government biggest priorities should be combatting disease. And that includes stem cell research. If there is one place, besides SDI, I want my tax dollars spent it is in fighting these diseases.

Bush is neglecting his duty to the American people by not vigorously funding stem cell research.

We are funding it. There are limits. My taxes only go so far.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
We are funding it. There are limits. My taxes only go so far.

You sound like liberals with SDI. For a high priority budget item what percentage of the total budget do we spend on Stem Cell Research? I bet it is not even one tenth of one percent.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Spanky
Definitely a valid point. Did anyone read Charlie Wilson's war? It is about a whoring coke snorting congressman from rural Texas whose fundamentalist puritan constituents kept reelecting him because he kept asking for redemption. This Congressmen was pretty much responsible for us arming the Mujahadeen. It is one of those books where every other page you are thinking - no way is this true - not even hollywood would come up with this because it is not believable.

Well, he was also a good Democrat that kept on bringing home great things for his constituancy. And he hated Commies. You have no idea how much that will forgive being an alcoholic pussyhound in East Texas. I miss Charlie Wilson.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I don't think there was anything partisan about my censoring of your pictures. I think there is general agreement that pictures should be safe for work, and there was at least some consensus that the charred bodies in your pictures were revolting. To be fair, you posted them because you wanted everyone to see what the Islamists had done.

Notwithstanding that I said I believed I censored DK's posts but do not recall doing so, I think you are taking unfair advantage of my poor memory.

I don't think so either, and it's a moot point because the moderation of this board isn't going to change unless one of you guys wants to voluntarily step down. I can see the temptation of wanting to do so from time to time.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
We are funding it. There are limits. My taxes only go so far.

It's a fucking pain in the ass (and expensive as hell), though, to build and fund separate floors/policies/personnel for embryonic stem cell research in larger research facilities for fear that NIH funding will be adversely implicated.

California, New Jersey, Massachusetts are on the right track. Texas and Florida aren't too far behind. We're losing research dollars to foregin countries on a fairly regular basis because of the ban on new lines, and more importantly, without OHRP jurisdiction over any embryonic stem cell research in this country, any research that does go on will not have the rigorous ethical oversight that most human subject research in this country must undergo before the protocol is approved.

I guess outsourcing cutting edge medical research, though, is par for the course in this administration. Free trade and all that, right Spanky?

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
the poster paigowprincess pm'd me that she would consider being a mod. Maybe she'd be a good choice? She's been around long enough to know whats what, and she seems somewhat apolitic. I always found Ty's decisions to be supported by an alleged good faith reason, but I do know of at least 2 republican posters that claim they've seen bias- why live with the appearance of impropriety?

Why do Republicans whine so much about bias? Especially in this context - I don't see a whole lot of post deletion going on, so what's the big deal?

Seriously - why?

As for PP, with all due respect to her post count, c'mon - if I want to read about her Spanky lust, Bing's, the trendy drink du jour, or shoes, there's the FB.