Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[c2ed]

Sorry if this has been discussed before, but what the hell is wrong with Ryan Seacrest and his stylist? He's looking like a strung-out jaundiced has-been "Where are they now?" candidate. Some hair colorist and stylist must be on drugs or have a sick sense of humor to let him appear like that - his hair looks like he's been acting as an embedded journalist in sandstorms, and his skin is sallow and so dry you'd think matte makeup was back.

And his outfits? Good gawd, that Phillip Something-or-other (the guy with the beret and pencil-thin mustache) must be working for AI. What is up with the gross dark grey (which make his skin look even worse) t-shirts, that look like he is about to go play softball or to the grocery store, covered up with an ill-fitting jacket? Is he truly strung out on drugs and getting bloated so they need to cover up his weight gain since last season?

C(and that denim suit was horrific)deuced

[JustForFun]

Bilmore, I describe a mutually consensual fact pattern in which no one is being coerced but one person (my b/f) is incredibly turned on by my extremely fit ass, toned abs, and perky C-cup breasts with rose colored nipples. I exclaim, breathlessly, that I get way off on this, almost to the point of orgasm, but not completely because I do need at least a bit of direct clitoral stimulation. Something I am happy to help myself out with, but other times that I prefer my b/f to do, either manually or orally. I say I detect an element of sex is power in that, and that this is part of what gets me off (although not completely, because I do have to have at least a bit of the finger or tongue (or mole if he were so endowed) to complete the act)

You then compare that to a situation were you as a partner would coerce a female associate into a sex act to get favors at work.

It must be hard to be a lawyer when you are that bad at analogizing. No pun intended.

[evenodds]

Originally posted by c2ed
Sorry if this has been discussed before, but what the hell is wrong with Ryan Seacrest and his stylist?

I think they have him dressing like that to make the contestants look better.

Or, he is campaigning for Blackwell's list.

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
This talk of barbi Benton got me to thinking...

When exactly did the "less pubes" thing become the new style? I was looking through some images of old playmates and noticed the following trend:

* * *

Late 90s/Early 00s:
- Bald/Hitler stash*/super thin landing strip

How do these styles change? Does Playboy decide? It seems like all chicks shift styles at once and the styles last for roughly 5 years, just like designer jeans or b grade sitcoms. How do chicks know what's "the new style"?

Where does it go next?

S("Hey Ann, how do you style your beav? Well, Mary, I go with the landing strip. Really? I prefer the Hitler.")D

* This is never attractive.

(a) what is a hitler stash? did i miss something in the extensive waxing/brazilian/chris discussions back in the day?

(b) for playboy "models" i assume playboy decides. you think those lovely ladies do their own makeup?

(c) apb: chicks talk. to one another. about stuff. now and again. plus they talk to their aestheticians . .. . .

cd

[JustForFun]

Originally posted by bilmore
Actually, you calling Slave a wannabe-rapist is what truly got us into this topic. If you can make assertions like that, based on no evidence, we are certainly entitled to do the same. Tat for tit.

Slave fantasizes about shoving his cock in a woman's mouth to shut her up and describes this fantasy in a post on an Internet bulletin board. That is a description of a violent non-consensual sex act. I tell him that he should see a therapist before he acts on his fantasies. That is why I called him a wannabe rapist.

I then describe a mutually consensual act and the genius known as ABBAKiss thinks that would qualify as a rape and calls me a wannabe rapist.

This leads me to realize many people who post on this board are stupid or not really lawyers. Or were absent or sleeping the day their Crim Law professor taught them about the elements of a rape.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by evenodds
I am with you on this. I don't get why he is so regarded. The Source named him the best MC ever and I think I was pissed off for a month.

You people are out of your fucking minds.

Originally posted by evenodds Best?

Yez.

Originally posted by evenodds Ever?

Yez.

Originally posted by evenodds Better than Rakim?

Yep.

Originally posted by evenodds Better than Chuck D?

No question.

Originally posted by evenodds Better than Pac?

I'd let someone get away with arguing this one, but in my opinion, yeah.

Originally posted by evenodds Better than Andre 3000?

Undoubtedly.

Originally posted by evenodds Hell, he's barely better than Percy Miller.

Please.

I'm talking about pure talent here. Some of those guys may have him beat in terms of the substance and message of their songs, but for pure skills, no one beats Biggie. No one. Period. End of Story.

Being a good hip hop artist means you have flow. Flow is hard to explain, but it's the ability to make the words you spit fit the music well. Eminem has flow. Rakim and Chuck D and Tupac had it too.

The difference between Biggie and everyone else (except maybe eminem and Tupac) is that he can flow on any type of beat. This is one of my biggest criticisms of Fifty Cent. Sure he sounds great on In Da Club and Wanksta. But those beats were built with his style in mind. Put him on a faster song, one suited to Outkast for example and watch him flounder. Rakim's songs all sounded somewhat similar in style. Mind blowing at the time, but he fell off because he can't switch style. Same with Chuck D. Same with countless others.

What separates Biggie from the best is that not only can he flow on any type of beat, he can switch his style a number of different ways on any given song. When he freestyles (underground tapes and live performances -- I've only seen a few), he blows your mind because not only is he making up the lyrics on the spot, but he switches his style back, forth, up and down at the same time. Enormous talent.

Puffy watered him down a lot because if there's one thing Puffy learned is that the more people can understand your artist, the more successful you are (see Mace).

And he's a great story teller. He can describe the scene and feel of a story better than anyone I've ever seen. Slick Rick had this ability. Biggie had it too. Difference is, he's got the whole package.

I've never heard a song Biggie did that was bad. He was on another level. Ask any hip hop head (who isn't from The South where they listen to almost nothing but crap) and they'll tell you he was the best or will put him in the top three.

TM

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by JustForFun
Slave fantasizes about shoving his cock in a woman mouth to shut her up and describes this fantasy in a post on an Internet bulletin board.

I'm fantasizing about a woman shoving a big cork in your mouth? Is that equally problematic from a gender standpoint?

Actually, I'm fantasizing about an industrial accident in which you break both your hands. Or a blackout in your neighborhood. Ooh baby.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by catrin_darcy
(a) what is a hitler stash? did i miss something in the extensive waxing/brazilian/chris discussions back in the day?

(b) for playboy "models" i assume playboy decides. you think those lovely ladies do their own makeup?

(c) apb: chicks talk. to one another. about stuff. now and again. plus they talk to their aestheticians . .. . .

cd

(a) The Hitler Stash is leaving a small wisp of hair at the top that Fla State girls think looks sexy.

(b) You misunderstand. My question was "Does Playboy set the standard for the style for all women at any given time?" not "How do the chicks in Playboy decide their style?"

(c) Aestheticians?

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by bilmore
I think that, ever since I sat and listened to the head of NOW explain why Clinton's use of his intern's mouth was perfectly acceptable, the concept that power has nothing to do with consent wakes my argument-instincts right the hell up.

Oh, for crying out loud. Bilmore, are you seriously suggesting that Monica was coerced into her relationship with Bill? Jesus H. Christ. Are you going to be talking about the Death List and the Mesa airstrip next?

And, yes, had she contended that she was coerced, the power disparity would make a great argument for her. The only problem with your attempt to bash NOW for a double standard on this issue is the minor detail that Monica never said that she was coerced into doing something that she didn't want to do. Quite the contrary.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
This talk of barbi Benton got me to thinking...

When exactly did the "less pubes" thing become the new style? I was looking through some images of old playmates and noticed the following trend:

70s:
- Disco mitt

Early 80s:
- Disco mitt

Mid/Late 80s:
- Thick landing strip

Early 90s:
- Thinner landing strip

Mid 90s:
- Thin landing strip

Late 90s/Early 00s:
- Bald/Hitler stash*/super thin landing strip

How do these styles change? Does Playboy decide? It seems like all chicks shift styles at once and the styles last for roughly 5 years, just like designer jeans or b grade sitcoms. How do chicks know what's "the new style"?

Where does it go next?

S("Hey Ann, how do you style your beav? Well, Mary, I go with the landing strip. Really? I prefer the Hitler.")D

* This is never attractive.

Slightly related is one of The Onion's Prom Planning Tips:

Prom night is one of the most memorable nights of your life, so don't ruin it by neglecting to wax. No guy wants to go down on a gorilla salad.

Gorilla Salad - I nearly fell out of my chair...

[JustForFun]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
JFF, you are now boring me. Speaking of lame-ass articles from Slate, maybe this can get this board to talk about something other than you:

I am more than happy to have this board be all about me. It is paigow that is upset by that.

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Dear Prudence,

I have been married for three years, and it seems that my husband has a slight problem with porn videos. They really make me uncomfortable. I feel that our sexual relationship is fine, but it bothers me when I may come home from work and find a DVD on that he forgot to turn off by mistake. (I think he sneaks watching them because he knows that I disapprove.) He now says he only watches them to get sexual tips for when we have sex, which is hard for me to believe because I haven't noticed a significant change in how we make love. His habit makes me feel as if I'm not satisfying his sexual appetite or that something is missing. Is it usual for men to engage in this type of behavior, or is it possible that I'm facing a serious problem here?

—Asking Seriously

I feel sad for both this woman and this man. They are sexually mismatched. She is a prude and he is normal. They should divorce.

Oh, and Seb, there's an idea for you. You don't have to get your wife all cut-up and sucked out. You can just watch porn.

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by JustForFun
I then describe a mutually consensual act and the genius known as ABBAKiss thinks that would qualify as a rape and calls me a wannabe rapist.

No, I never said that anything you described would qualify as a rape. I said that your description of why you enjoy what you described reminded me of a wannabe rapist who, as you pointed out, isn't really in it for the sex.

The Genius Known As ABBAKiss

[c2ed]

Originally posted by evenodds
I think they have him dressing like that to make the contestants look better.

Or, he is campaigning for Blackwell's list.

He must be trying for worst dressed. Just take off the jacket, even, and go casual in the dockers and t-shirt. But with the jacket he looks like yet another producer trying to get into the porm industry. I think he's really hot, and should be wearing something besides dark grey. He looked great last season, and it didn't seem to have too much of a negative effect on the attractiveness of those contestants. Then again, there was still Brian Dunkleman to balance his hotness (if that's a word).

I also caught the last few minutes of the Bachelor last night (and will now ignore the show until the finale). Andrew needs to find shirts where the collar doesn't rise up so far above his jacket. Something about it seems really off. Is there a rule about how far above your jacket collar your chirt collar should be?

C(this season of the Bachelor seems made for meltdowns and catfights)deuced

[JustForFun]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
I'm fantasizing about a woman shoving a big cork in your mouth? Is that equally problematic from a gender standpoint?

No, that is not. That is simply an act of violence, but not a rape because there is no sex act.

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Actually, I'm fantasizing about an industrial accident in which you
break both your hands.

That just makes you a bad person. But I already knew that once I found out you live in Marin.

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Or a blackout in your neighborhood. Ooh baby.

Perfectly acceptable. No violence, no fantasies of bodily harm.

[evenodds]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I'm talking about pure talent here. Some of those guys may have him beat in terms of the substance and message of their songs, but for pure skills, no one beats Biggie. No one. Period. End of Story.

Being a good hip hop artist means you have flow. Flow is hard to explain, but it's the ability to make the words you spit fit the music well. Eminem has flow. Rakim and Chuck D and Tupac had it too.

I agree that flow is crucial and that Biggie could flow.

Content-wise, I couldn't recall a single song with a memorable lyric.

Even(stop disrespecting the Dirty-Dirty -- if not for the South you wouldn't have "Me So Horny")Odds