Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[Tyrone Slothrop]

it's been a long time since Penske's been around, eh?

[Cantinflas]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Apparently, the editors at American Lawyer see our problems with West's censorship policy as "petty and childish".

Their article focused solely on West's policy of censoring "dirty words" yet completely ignored their new policy of censoring substantive material at will.

If taken to its logical conclusion, the censoring of unflattering, yet truthful, information about law firms will clearly put an end to the free flow of information available to associates and usurp the original intent of these types of Boards.

Which begs the question - did they unintentionally disregard this important concept, or do they really think that our concerns for law firm transparancy are "petty and childish".

One would think that members of the press would hold a higher regard for freedom of information and the freedom the press.

John Peter Zenger be damned.

not7yS

We should all lobby our firms to make the switch from West to Lexis, if they have not already!

Unite GAs! there is strength in numbers!

ole!

Cantinflas

[Cantinflas]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Maude Lebowski. Isnt she how you picture me?

Who is Maude Lebowski? Goth writer?

ole!

Cantinflas

[leagleaze]

Let's see what surprises people about me.

My age. I still get carded yet I will be 31 soon. I got carded for a movie a year or so ago, and would get carded for cigarettes all the time. I don't think I look that young though. Someone told me I looked 25 the other day. I can believe that. Partially I think people think I am youg because of my next thing that surprises people.

My height. I don't know why, but people often think I am taller then I am. One day they'll see me reaching for something and say daamn...you ARE short. Like I wasn't short the last time you saw me? Duh.

That I do risky sports, rock climbing, kayaking, etc etc and am into nature stuff. My secretary looked at me when I told her I was going camping this weekend and said, "wait, you actually camp?" She was shocked.

I bet you were expecting me to say my orientation weren't you? Well I don't feel like it.

[Mister_Ruysbroeck]

Originally posted by baltassoc
I for one, in the unlikely event I am ever contacted by Ms. Smith (or anyone else at AmLaw) will be reluctant to share any information, on or off the record.

Not only that, but I'm cancelling my fucking (ha, I swore!) subscription. I don't care if my firm is paying for it.

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
That happened to me once, but it was Reveah.

A Yankee-fan buddy o' mine was at Fenway rooting on his boys. Bernie Williams hits a home run in a big spot, and my friend turns around and yells "Y'all can go back to Revere. Head on back to Lynn now." (etc.) One of the funniest things I've ever seen.

Reminds me of the time I was at a Boston big-firm summer event watching Pedro and Colon go at it for 9 innings. I had Colon in my Roti league that year. When Colon struck out Troy O'Leary with the bases loaded, I stood up in the bleachers and yelled "You can't hit that! You can't hit that BECAUSE YOU SUCK."

Of course, people might have assumed from that that I was just a frustrated BoSox fan.

Best part of that night was the recruiting coordinators sitting at either end of the section of Greedy Summer Associates with big wallets filled with 50s and 100s handing them out at will anytime someone got up to get something (or even just go to take a leak). Good times.

By the way, I'm still stunned that Troy O'Leary is black.

[Jack Manfred]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
This whole problem can be avoided by spending the summer in San Francisco. (Cue the Mark Twain quote.) Sometimes when the fog burns off, we find tourists in shorts with chattering teeth, warming their hands over burning Fodor's guides.

The only reason for any self-respecting San Franciscan to go to Fisherman's Wharf is to watch the tourists shiver in summer. I also enjoy watching them pay for outrageously expensive and cheesy sweatshirts (Alcatraz Triathalon Team) as they attempt to stave off hypothermia.

Can any of you Bay Area folks tell me how the City feels about getting a Hooters franchise at the Wharf? That just seems silly.

Of course, all San Franciscans are still allowed to go to the Ghirardelli's ice cream parlor. I'm not a cruel man. Actually, I liked how San Francisco seems to isolate the tourists from the rest of the city.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by leagleaze
Someone asked if he said it was an opinion piece. No, I don't think so.

That would be me. I wasn't asking if he said it was an opinion piece, I was pretty sure he didn't. I was asserting that, if he said he edited the piece to reflect his personal feelings and conclusions about why GAs left rather than presenting the reasons reported to them by the principals (and then, if appropriate, investigating and presenting supporting or contradictory facts), then it in fact WAS an opinion piece rather than reporting. The snide inuendo was, of course, that any imbicile should know the difference, and that presenting editorial opinion as factual reporting (or using it as a basis for omitting any mention of a set of contradictory information) is somewhat, dare I say, whiffy.

What can I say - based on the non-statistically significant sampling of reporters I've known well, journalistic standards in the English speaking world have totally slid into the toilet over the last 15 years. And I think anyone expecting otherwise was just deluded in la-la land, or misled by the accident of being in a profession (law) that still thinks "ethics" means something that its practitioners have to live up to.

But it's hardly a world crisis; in fact, given the rather tattered reputation the fouth estate has these days, what with journalistic ethics being a widely cited oxymoron just behind military intelligence, I think it's a total non-event. I'm really just annoyed that it sounds like this guy was defensive enough about it that he got snitty with you.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic

I'm really just annoyed that it sounds like this guy was defensive enough about it that he got snitty with you.

I'm thinking bbboy has infiltrated the american lawyer.

[Magic 8Baller]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
it's been a long time since Penske's been around, eh?

Concentrate and ask again.

[SlaveNoMore]

Originally posted by Jack Manfred
The only reason for any self-respecting San Franciscan to go to Fisherman's Wharf is to watch the tourists shiver in summer. I also enjoy watching them pay for outrageously expensive and cheesy sweatshirts (Alcatraz Triathalon Team) as they attempt to stave off hypothermia.

what about the In-N-Out Burger?

not7yS

[NotFromHere]

Never invite a cop to your party.

cop not a stripper

Come on. $11?


When a man in a police uniform showed up at a bachelorette party in southwest Gainesville over the weekend, guests assumed he was the entertainment.

It wasn't until Gainesville Police Officer Jamie Hope drove away with the bride-to-be in handcuffs that those in attendance realized not only that the man in blue would not be taking off his clothes, but that the guest-of-honor was under arrest.

"They didn't go so far as to try and grab him," said Gainesville Police Sgt. Keith Kameg.

But they were wondering when the performance would start.

"When he was taking her to his car, everyone thought he was the stripper and everyone said, 'OK, the warning has gone far enough. Are you going to start stripping?' " Kameg said.

Hope, 30, a married, six-year Gainesville Police veteran, arrested the 24-year-old woman on a warrant for violation of probation involving an almost 2-year-old open-container citation. She had failed to pay $11 in connection with the citation, resulting in the probation violation and a warrant, court records show. The woman's bond was later set at $11 and she was released.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I'm thinking bbboy has infiltrated the american lawyer.

I'm thinking West has advertising in the american lawyer, but I'm sure that would be studiously ignored.

Anyhow, to pull the discussion back into abstraction, it appears to me that "journalistic ethics" such as they are are in flux, and are slowly shaking down to be much more like legal ethics: zealous advocacy for your client. Someone else will zealously advocate for the other side if it can pay; some half-assed web-blogger will advocate for a side that can't afford press junkets and color advertising, if he has time and finds out about it; and people seeking to impartially judge the truth of the matter will assume that everyone is artfully lying to them and producing biased shite and 9 times out of 10 they will need to sort out the facts from the advocacy all by themselves and come to a conclusion somewhere in between - or just side with whoever confirms their own bias.

That's sure as hell the way I consume the media these days. edited to add: there's no other explanation for the incredible incompetence of the New York Times, the complete inability of Fox and MSNBC to quit screaming long enough to even make a gesture at impartiality, the cretinous hack-jobs that pass for "intelligent" commentary at once respected journals like Harpers or the Atlantic. The only mystery is if or when the media will fess up to it, or continue to pretend to independence.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I've gotten "you're too nice to be a lawyer" on more than one occasion.

I can see that. But, uh...to say the least, I don't run into that specific reaction very often.

TM

[Jack Manfred]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
what about the In-N-Out Burger?

not7yS

Barney's Gournet Burgers is still in SF, isn't it? The In-N-Out Burger is just such a SoCal institution. It seems wrong to have it in the City. Like having cable cars in LA. In High School, the cool kids would wear their In-N-Out t-shirts after a trip down south. The stoner/soccer players would wear those Mexican hooded poncho things if they went to Cancun (or had an older brother who did).

I prefer the Fatburger to the In-N-Out burger (especially because of the jukeboxes at Fatburger), but it would be cruel to thwart someone's craving for a double-double, so I suppose I'll make an exception.