Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
I never knew cats had spikes on their penises. I named my cat Spike because of his ability when he was a little kitten to spike a little ball like a volleyball. (of course he hasn't done that for about ten years or so) - so now his name has a whole new meaning.

It's more like little spines, I guess -- and if the cat is neutered, they go away.

http://www.cfainc.org/health/reproduction8.html

has pictures! May be inappropriate for work, I guess, because it shows animal genitalia.

[leagleaze]

Thurgreed(I feel sorry for leagle's cats once she finds this site)Marshall

I would never dress my cats up in such a costume. I respect my cats' right to be as they are. As I respect your right to be as you are, you know, mean and scrooge like. Ya fuddy duddy.

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by evenodds
Yelling and screaming . . . often associated with ebonics?

Exactly what is that supposed to mean?

I mean the speech where people talk over each other and say the same thing over and over again without proper diction. Like on a Ricki Lake show (although I hear this in public also, but just by way of example) when one woman screams, "And what? And what? And what? I din' axe you..." while the other is screaming at the same time "Step off, bitch, Step off, step off, step off, you don' know me." I associate that with ebonics (not black people, but the style of speech). You don't often hear people with proper British accents, for example, talking over each other like that.

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by leagleaze
Now that would have been an idea. But no, I was financially and environmentally sound, and used the back of an envelope.

If you used a key to write it on their hood, you could have avoided wasting paper entirely.

s(just doing my part to save the trees)f

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

W. Virginia sounds like your talking through sludge, but I rather like it for some reason, like I enjoy the smell of gasoline.

Maine is right up there. Frankly, so is native New York - most of the accents of the NY area grate on me, and it kills me when I hear myself picking it up.

DC accents bug the hell out of me - flat, blatting, nasal. Ottawa is the same way - maybe it has something to do with capital cities.

I can often pick out native Seattlites, but that doesn't mean I like it.

The southwestern-hispanic accent can get on your nerves - sometimes it's nice, and sometimes you want to yell "stop that sing-songy shit!" (This is probably the reason people dislike S.CA accents, too.)

I like most Texas accents (though some are outrageous, usually eastern rural ones). Accents from the inland areas of VA and the Carolinas can annoy me (particularly when they pick up strong hints of the population's origin, be it irish, scotish, Liverpool, german, whatever - but see WVA above), but generally I like slower southern speech far more than most N.E. accents. Too much talking too fast, and precious little to say (another bad habit it kills me to hear myself picking up). And southern vowels tend to be rounder and more modulated, less nasal and constricted. A much more pleasant sound overall.

There is a New Orleans accent that sounds just like Brooklyn. For some reason, the New Orleans version bugs me more than the Brooklyn version. (Brooklyn-ease has vowels pulled back in the throat, which is better than the nasal-frontal sounds of most North Easterners, even if brooklynites torture them into odd dipthongs.)

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Poll:

What is the most grating American accent?

Boston?
Brooklyn?
Joisey?
Texas?
Other nominees?

[evenodds]

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
I mean the speech where people talk over each other and say the same thing over and over again without proper diction. Like on a Ricki Lake show (although I hear this in public also, but just by way of example) when one woman screams, "And what? And what? And what? I din' axe you..." while the other is screaming at the same time "Step off, bitch, Step off, step off, step off, you don' know me." I associate that with ebonics (not black people, but the style of speech). You don't often hear people with proper British accents, for example, talking over each other like that.

Ebonics was the Oakland, CA school district's name for what was called black english vernacular when I studied linguistics, and african-american english vernacular now.

The ignorant behavior you describe is not representative of bev/aaev. It is representative of that distinct subculture of people of any race who would appear on the Ricki Lake show.

Edited to mention the correct trash show.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
I mean the speech where people talk over each other and say the same thing over and over again without proper diction. Like on a Ricki Lake show (although I hear this in public also, but just by way of example) when one woman screams, "And what? And what? And what? I din' axe you..." while the other is screaming at the same time "Step off, bitch, Step off, step off, step off, you don' know me." I associate that with ebonics (not black people, but the style of speech). You don't often hear people with proper British accents, for example, talking over each other like that.

Proper, meaning received BBC English accents ... no. But you frequently hear similar badly-pronounced, repeated, nonsensical aggressive filler-type stuff yelled by british people with grating accents around closing time ....

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Most of the accents of the NY area grate on me, and it kills me when I hear myself picking it up.

DC accents bug the hell out of me - flat, blatting, nasal. Ottawa is the same way - maybe it has something to do with capital cities.

This confuses me. What is a DC accent? Most people here are transplants. When you say flat, blatting, and nasal, it does make me think of Sandra Bullock, who grew up in Arlington, Va, but I have never thought of that as a DC accent.

As a Long Islander, I have always found upstate NY accents to be extremely grating. Talk about flat and nasal.

And to return to a previous topic, people are usually surprised (shock is too strong) to learn I'm from LI. Must be the NPR clip.

[Connect_the_Dots]

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
Iwhen one woman screams, "And what? And what? And what? I din' axe you..." while the other is screaming at the same time "Step off, bitch, Step off, step off, step off, you don' know me." I associate that with ebonics (not black people, but the style of speech). You don't often hear people with proper British accents, for example, talking over each other like that.

It reminds of Chris Rock's take on Ebonics:

There are two kinds of ways of talking. There's the way you talk if you ever want to have a job....then there's the other way.

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by evenodds
Ebonics was the Oakland, CA school district's name for what was called black english vernacular when I studied linguistics, and african-american english vernacular now.

The ignorant behavior you describe is not representative of bev/aaev. It is representative of that distinct subculture of people of any race who would appear on the Ricki Lake show.

Edited to mention the correct trash show.

I never studied linguistics. Maybe I used the term too loosely. At any rate, I associate it with people who do not use proper pronunciation on purpose for effect. And again, I was not associating it with any race or ethnicity but rather with a style of speech.

[leagleaze]

My accent annoys me sometimes. Normally I don't have a heavy accent but every now and again I'll say watah. I actually responded to someone a while back when he said hi with, Yo, how you doin, in a really heavy accent. He just broke up laughing as did I. I have to wonder where the hell this comes from since we moved when I was 4.

So I'll have to go with the Long Island accent.

I don't know if this is an accent, but people end sentences with at drive me crazy. I.e. Where you taking your vacation at? Where's he at? Where's that at. First why are you ending a sentence with at? Second, the at is redundant, you already said where.

As an aside, I don't think you mean ebonics ABBA, isn't ebonics a form of language? Someone who knows more on that can perhaps speak to it.

[SlaveNoMore]

Originally posted by evenodds
Ebonics was the Oakland, CA school district's name for what was called black english vernacular when I studied linguistics, and african-american english vernacular now.

The ignorant behavior you describe is not representative of bev/aaev. It is representative of that distinct subculture of people of any race who would appear on the Ricki Lake show.

Which group includes those that add "You know what I'm saying?" into every damn sentence.

not7yS

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Not Bob
[25th Hour's Fuck You rant]

Is it stealing if he took it from one of his own movies? This is taken almost directly out of Do the Right Thing, it's just more inclusive and instead of having different people rant on a specific race, he has Norton do it for everyone. It worked, but I liked it better the first time I saw it.

Other favorite quote:

Radio Raheem: Give me twenty D Energizers.
Sonny: Twenty C Energizers?
Radio Raheem: Not C, D.
Sonny: C Energizers?
Radio Raheem: D motherfucker, D. Learn to speak English first, alright?
Kim: How many you say?
Radio Raheem: Twenty, motherfucker, twenty.
Sonny: Motherfuck you!

TM

Edited to add: Isn't it funny that this post landed where it did? I must have ESP(N) or something.

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by leagleaze

I don't know if this is an accent, but people end sentences with at drive me crazy. I.e. Where you taking your vacation at? Where's he at? Where's that at. First why are you ending a sentence with at? Second, the at is redundant, you already said where.

Apropos of something, perhaps tying threads, this reminds me of the joke about the West Virginia boy who went to Harvard.

Country boy to Harvard Man:
"Excuse me, sir. Can you tell me where the library is at?"

Harvard Man:
"We at Hahvahd don't end our sentences in prepositions."

Country boy:
"Okay, then. Can you tell me where the library is at, asshole?"

[Connect_the_Dots]

Originally posted by leagleaze
So I'll have to go with the Long Island accent.

I don't know if this is an accent, but people end sentences with at drive me crazy. I.e. Where you taking your vacation at? Where's he at? Where's that at. First why are you ending a sentence with at? Second, the at is redundant, you already said where.

If mentioned to a a real long islander, or person within 100 miles of NYC, the convo would go like this:

LI: Where you taking your vacation at?

Timmy: Don't end a sentence with a preposition, end it with a noun.

LI: OK. Where you taking your vacation at, asshole?