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sebastian_dangerfield · 04-03-2003, 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
You people are out of your fucking minds.

Yez.

Yez.

Yep.

No question.

I'd let someone get away with arguing this one, but in my opinion, yeah.

Undoubtedly.

Please.

I'm talking about pure talent here. Some of those guys may have him beat in terms of the substance and message of their songs, but for pure skills, no one beats Biggie. No one. Period. End of Story.

Being a good hip hop artist means you have flow. Flow is hard to explain, but it's the ability to make the words you spit fit the music well. Eminem has flow. Rakim and Chuck D and Tupac had it too.

The difference between Biggie and everyone else (except maybe eminem and Tupac) is that he can flow on any type of beat. This is one of my biggest criticisms of Fifty Cent. Sure he sounds great on In Da Club and Wanksta. But those beats were built with his style in mind. Put him on a faster song, one suited to Outkast for example and watch him flounder. Rakim's songs all sounded somewhat similar in style. Mind blowing at the time, but he fell off because he can't switch style. Same with Chuck D. Same with countless others.

What separates Biggie from the best is that not only can he flow on any type of beat, he can switch his style a number of different ways on any given song. When he freestyles (underground tapes and live performances -- I've only seen a few), he blows your mind because not only is he making up the lyrics on the spot, but he switches his style back, forth, up and down at the same time. Enormous talent.

Puffy watered him down a lot because if there's one thing Puffy learned is that the more people can understand your artist, the more successful you are (see Mace).

And he's a great story teller. He can describe the scene and feel of a story better than anyone I've ever seen. Slick Rick had this ability. Biggie had it too. Difference is, he's got the whole package.

I've never heard a song Biggie did that was bad. He was on another level. Ask any hip hop head (who isn't from The South where they listen to almost nothing but crap) and they'll tell you he was the best or will put him in the top three.

TM

TM,

I'm out. I cry uncle. I'm found to be a lacking dilletante in this arena.

I still dig Chuck D the most. No reason why. I just think he was the Johnny Rotten of rap - whetever you were doing, when he was rapping, you were fucking listening. Biggie may have exceptional technique, but Chuck D could actually grab you by the ears and spin your brain.

Slick Rick is probably the smoothest I've ever heard, but as I said, I am obviously a dilletante here.

S(Did Rick get deported? I think Ashcroft and his thugs were trying to send Rick to England for some stupid immigration thing)D

JustForFun · 04-03-2003, 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by ABBAKiss
No, I never said that anything you described would qualify as a rape. I said that your description of why you enjoy what you described reminded me of a wannabe rapist who, as you pointed out, isn't really in it for the sex.

The Genius Known As ABBAKiss

I have no idea what you mean by that and am now willing to stipulate that you and I are speaking different languages.

ABBAKiss · 04-03-2003, 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by JustForFun
I have no idea what you mean by that and am now willing to stipulate that you and I are speaking different languages.

TITS!!!!!

JustForFun · 04-03-2003, 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by ABBAKiss
TITS!!!!!

That's perky C-cup TITS with rose-colored nipples to you.

Mister_Ruysbroeck · 04-03-2003, 07:40 PM

edit: guess that was a board killer. let's go back to talking about tits.

evenodds · 04-03-2003, 07:49 PM

Kirby Puckett was acquitted.

ABBAKiss · 04-03-2003, 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by evenodds
Kirby Puckett was acquitted.

Good.

I heard an anecdote that back in the day Kirby was whoring around with some women who were not as hot as they might have been and one of the coaches said, "Kirbster, why are you hanging out with those girls? They're twos and you can easily get a 10." To which Kirby replied, "I'd rather have five 2s than one 10."

His poor lied to wife. But I still heart him.

robustpuppy · 04-03-2003, 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
So then why the hell would you just stand there talking to me like nothing's going on? If I was even half aroused to the point that it was noticable, I wouldn't get up from behind my desk.

Personally, Sebby, I certainly would not continue talking as if nothing were going on if I were speaking to you, because I am sure that in that situation you would be the cause of the erect nipples, and not merely the beneficiary of them. We would share a knowing glance and enjoy the moment.

But, if I were speaking to my ugly old boss (or JFF's b/f) and it happened because it was nipply in the room, or because I was thinking about you, what would you have me do? Should I say, "oops, high beam alert! Oh, don't worry, it's just cold in here, it's not you."

Silly boy.

str8outavannuys · 04-03-2003, 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
You people are out of your fucking minds.

. . .

I've never heard a song Biggie did that was bad. He was on another level. Ask any hip hop head (who isn't from The South where they listen to almost nothing but crap) and they'll tell you he was the best or will put him in the top three.

TM

Since I introduced this, I obviously agree. Esp. about the freestyles. But Ready To Die is a classic, and Life After Death is the only hip hop double album that would be hindered by editing down into a standard length album. I've been walking around the office today saying to myself:

NO-TO-RI-O/
US, you best, lay down slow.

But why hate on the dirty dirty? I love that Lil Flip. "Maybe buy the Rockets/Might just buy the Comets."

str(if I had to choose a coast, I'd have to choose the east)8

JustForFun · 04-03-2003, 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
But, if I were speaking to my ugly old boss (or JFF's b/f)

My b/f is under the age of 45, has a full head of hair and is in better shape than most 30 year olds (many of whom don't have a full head of hair). He would make your nips stand at attention.

robustpuppy · 04-03-2003, 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by JustForFun
Bilmore, I describe a mutually consensual fact pattern in which no one is being coerced but one person (my b/f) is incredibly turned on by my extremely fit ass, toned abs, and perky C-cup breasts with rose colored nipples. I exclaim, breathlessly, that I get way off on this, almost to the point of orgasm, but not completely because I do need at least a bit of direct clitoral stimulation. Something I am happy to help myself out with, but other times that I prefer my b/f to do, either manually or orally. I say I detect an element of sex is power in that, and that this is part of what gets me off (although not completely, because I do have to have at least a bit of the finger or tongue (or mole if he were so endowed) to complete the act)

It's amazing to me that you can talk so much about sex that you claim is totally hot and yet not cause my nipples to become erect.
Is anybody else having this experience?

I don't know, it must be something about your writing style.

str8outavannuys · 04-03-2003, 08:12 PM

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Originally posted by ABBAKiss
No, I never said that anything you described would qualify as a rape. I said that your description of why you enjoy what you described reminded me of a wannabe rapist who, as you pointed out, isn't really in it for the sex.

The Genius Known As ABBAKiss

This argument (especially the narrow back and forth between Abba and JFF) is like playing Dungeons and Dragons. Even if you win, you're still a big dork.

str(DND is fun . . . FOR ME TO POOP ON)8

lawyer_princess · 04-03-2003, 08:13 PM

JFF, please tell me of the following applies to you:

A) I have no idea how rEdiculous my posts make me look.

B) I know how rEdiculous my posts make me look, but IRL I am perfectly sane.

C) I really am this mean and bereft of social skills IRL and that is why have no friends.

D) I am a sock and I’m just funnin’ y’all.

This will be a big help in interpreting your future posts. Thanks.

sebastian_dangerfield · 04-03-2003, 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Personally, Sebby, I certainly would not continue talking as if nothing were going on if I were speaking to you, because I am sure that in that situation you would be the cause of the erect nipples, and not merely the beneficiary of them. We would share a knowing glance and enjoy the moment.

But, if I were speaking to my ugly old boss (or JFF's b/f) and it happened because it was nipply in the room, or because I was thinking about you, what would you have me do? Should I say, "oops, high beam alert! Oh, don't worry, it's just cold in here, it's not you."

RP,

You can't mix sarcasm with the term "erect nipples." The male mind just starts thinking tits and a really fine piece of sarcasm is thus lain fallow...

S(... sarcasm... nice, round firm, perky sarcasm...)D

JustForFun · 04-03-2003, 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
It's amazing to me that you can talk so much about sex that you claim is totally hot and yet not cause my nipples to become erect.
Is anybody else having this experience?

I don't know, it must be something about your writing style.

Its because you're not gay. My posts about sex describe my body in detail, which may not be appealing to you if you are a hetero female. Men are rubbing their crotches when they read my posts, though.