Still Hating America.

[SlaveNoMore]

Spanky
Lets just provide strategy options for the insurgents...


McCain Fears 'Tet Offensive' in Iraq

"...The U.S. death toll is more than 3,100 in the nearly four-year-old war.... "

For perspective - since the AP doesn't have any - might I just chime in and point out that the U.S. death toll was 3,289 in the only 113 DAY Spanish-American War?

Now, for more overly grim no-context statistics, let's turn to Reuters....

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
It sounds like a good job by the Bush Administration to get us back to something like the Clinton Administration's policy for dealing with North Korea. It's only too bad that they did nothing for many years. It's not necessarily a good policy, but it sounds to me like the best of a bunch of bad options.

See my post from yesterday.

This one, I think you mean. -- T.S.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
For perspective - since the AP doesn't have any - might I just chime in and point out that the U.S. death toll was 3,289 in the only 113 DAY Spanish-American War?

Now, for more overly grim no-context statistics, let's turn to Reuters....

Interesting that you compare the Iraq war to another war of choice.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Interesting that you compare the Iraq war to another war of choice.

what is a "war of choice?" how many times did Germany attack us?

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
what is a "war of choice?" how many times did Germany attack us?

After they bombed Pearl Harbor we really didn't have a choice.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
what is a "war of choice?" how many times did Germany attack us?

In early 1917, Germany started unrestricted submarine warfare in the North Atlantic, sinking many U.S. ships.

In December 1942, Germany declared war on the United States shortly after Pearl Harbor.

[Adder]

Originally posted by Spanky
I like Ty, am really wary of giving school administrators too much discretion over firing. That is why I like the tests. Since the administrators are not incentivised to make the system better I am afraid they will start firing teachers for all the wrong reasons. If you have the tests, then a teacher can use the tests to defend themselves if some idiot administrator is trying to get rid of them because they were not PC in class, or wasn't polite to them the last time they met.

I wholeheartedly agree with your skepticism. Which is why I am not keen on reducing teachers job protections. And, of course, you describe exactly why tenure exists.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
In early 1917, Germany started unrestricted submarine warfare in the North Atlantic, sinking many U.S. ships.

In December 1942, Germany declared war on the United States shortly after Pearl Harbor.

vacation boats, or were they cargo ships?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
vacation boats, or were they cargo ships?

Both. Earlier in the war, Germany said it wouldn't sink passenger liners, but in early 1917 all holds were off.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Both. Earlier in the war, Germany said it wouldn't sink passenger liners, but in early 1917 all holds were off.

The Germans sinking those boats headed to its enemies was no different than Iraq targetting our jets pre-war. If one was an act of war they both were.

Maybe if we hadn't entered the war the Germans would have went easier on the Jews. We may have made the problem worse. AND we lost hundreds of thousands of our boys.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
The Germans sinking those boats headed to its enemies was no different than Iraq targetting our jets pre-war. If one was an act of war they both were.

Sinking passenger liners in the open ocean is no different from shooting at military jets flying over Iraqi soil? That's recockulous.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
For perspective - since the AP doesn't have any - might I just chime in and point out that the U.S. death toll was 3,289 in the only 113 DAY Spanish-American War?

Now, for more overly grim no-context statistics, let's turn to Reuters....

Incredibly enough, Americans have become conditioned to expect that the death toll in a war now will be lower than it was a century ago.

It's weird -- Americans have this notion that superpower status, tanks, flak jackets, jets, APCs, and a vast range of other very expensive military technology is supposed to accomplish something.

It's like no one was paying attention, back in 2002 and 2003, when the Bush Administration repeatedly told people to expect that the war and occupation would last five or seven years, that thousands of Americans would die, and that the cost would approach a trillion dollars. The Admin knew all of this, told the American people, and the American people supported the war -- so stop complaining!

Caveat emptor, I say.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Incredibly enough, Americans have become conditioned to expect that the death toll in a war now will be lower than it was a century ago.

It's weird -- Americans have this notion that superpower status, tanks, flak jackets, jets, APCs, and a vast range of other very expensive military technology is supposed to accomplish something.

It's like no one was paying attention, back in 2002 and 2003, when the Bush Administration repeatedly told people to expect that the war and occupation would last five or seven years, that thousands of Americans would die, and that the cost would approach a trillion dollars. The Admin knew all of this, told the American people, and the American people supported the war -- so stop complaining!

Caveat emptor, I say.

And, like, penicillin and stuff.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Sinking passenger liners in the open ocean is no different from shooting at military jets flying over Iraqi soil? That's recockulous.

Presumably, Hank also believes that, since Iraq was firing on US warplanes, it would have made no difference if Iraq also blew up a few passenger jets flying in the US.

OTOH, Hank may still believe that Iraq did just that on 9/11. I'm not sure how to address that one, so I'll leave it to you, Ty.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch



OTOH, Hank may still believe that Iraq did just that on 9/11.

It was certainly part of a loosely coordinated larger pan-radical arab/Islamofacist conspiracy, so pre-liberation Iraq bears some responsibility.