Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by leagleaze
I doubt she goes to jail, and am sorry I will now have to listen to a second round of Martha decorating her jail cell jokes.

Indeed. I ask you, is it fair that we all must bear the penalty for her horrible acts?

[SEC_Chick]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
In my wet dreams!

That reminds me... my vote for fave Penske sock goes to Ken Porn Starr.


SEC (But Hillary's Fat Ass amused me as well) Chick

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by leagleaze
A. I doubt she goes to jail, and am sorry I will now have to listen to a second round of Martha decorating her jail cell jokes.

B. Generally, in a female prison, one need not worry about bending over. What do you think is gonna happen? A big old bull dyke is gonna put on her strap on and do Martha in the shower?

I recall a cheesy Linda Blair movie where she goes to female juvy and gets forcefully poked in the shower with a, um, broom. I don't know why I recall this. Kinda like how I remember the afterschool special about the kid who pissed his bed and his mom hung the sheets out of his window every day for the world to see so he would run home to pull them in before the other kids saw them -- I think it was the kid who starred with David Soul in Salem's Lot.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by LessinSF
Any accent where the word "wash" becomes "warsh" annoys the fuck out of me.

Southern midwest twang (Indiana, Kentucky, Tennessee). My mom is afflicted with that...

[SEC_Chick]

Originally posted by LessinSF
Any accent where the word "wash" becomes "warsh" annoys the fuck out of me.

While non-accent-related improper pronoun usage bothers me most, warsh/worsh bugs the hell out of me and people who say it also usually store their clothing in the chester drawers and hang their stockings by the chimley on Christmas Eve.

[mmm3587]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Also, "out of pocket" means out of money/broke, not unavailable. At least it does in my world.

I hear (otherwise smart and precise) people (especially partners at my firm) use it to mean "unavailable" all the time. It's epidemic/endemic* and it drives me nuts. I've always thought it to mean "a cost which will not be offset, reimbursed or recovered" as in "Since the firm won't reimburse for lap dances, we're gonna be $100 out of pocket on this summer lunch." I've never heard of the "broke" meaning.

* I hereby request a brief treatise on these terms.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by mmm3587
I hear (otherwise smart and precise) people (especially partners at my firm) use it to mean "unavailable" all the time.

Since I only ever hear it used by a particular kind of male lawyer, I always assumed it was meant in the football sense; i.e., away from the office and therefore the protection of the blockers. No idea why the definite article gets dropped, though. Probably a confusion with the expense meaning of "out of pocket."

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by SEC_Chick
While non-accent-related improper pronoun usage bothers me most, warsh/worsh bugs the hell out of me and people who say it also usually store their clothing in the chester drawers and hang their stockings by the chimley on Christmas Eve.

It's chimminee.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
DC accents bug the hell out of me - flat, blatting, nasal. Ottawa is the same way - maybe it has something to do with capital cities.
I can often pick out native Seattlites, but that doesn't mean I like it.

WHAT? You're freakin me out?!? You can pick out Seattlites? All west coasters (exception of the pop/soda thing) sound the same. What does that mean? What are you saying?

And it's pop dammit - soda's the crap you put in your scotch.

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by mmm3587


* I hereby request a brief treatise on these terms.

Brought to you by dictionary.com.

An epidemic is something that spreads rapidly and extensively. It can be a disease, it can be a sense, the example they use is an epidemic of discontent, it can be pretty much any old thing, they also use epidemic of unemployment.

On the other hand, endemic is localized to a particular region or people.

So one might say something such as:

"Once upon a time ending a sentence with the word at was endemic to central Pennsylvania. However, it now seems to have become an epidemic throughout the United states.

Epidemic is both a noun and an adjective. Endemic is as well, but the noun form is normally used with ecology, or at least so says dictionary.com.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Is it stealing if he took it from one of his own movies? This is taken almost directly out of Do the Right Thing, it's just more inclusive and instead of having different people rant on a specific race, he has Norton do it for everyone. It worked, but I liked it better the first time I saw it.

Whoops, I had forgotten about that.

That being said, I think that the rant comes from a different place in 25th Hour. It expresses Monty's rage at leaving a city that he loves, combined with a dollop of regret and a recognition that the city ain't perfect. And who would know these imperfections better than Monty? A drug dealing Irish kid from Brooklyn, kicked out of a elite Manhattan prep school, working for Russian mobsters, living (in the UWS?) with a beautiful Puerto Rican woman, and whose best friend is a Wall Street trader?

In Do The Right Thing, the rant seemed to symbolize the seperateness of the city's tribes -- how each hated the other (kinda like in Sly Stone's song Everyday People -- "There is a blue one who can't accept the green one, for living with a fat one, trying to be a skinny one"). In 25th Hour, it comes across more as an idividual cry of anguish. And later in the movie, as he leaves the city, he sees the faces of those he ranted about, and they are smiling at him. Definitely a difference in tone.

Edited after catching up to add that MR said pretty much what I tried to say, except he did it better. Bastard.

[Replaced_Texan]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ple_manilow_dc

Barry Manilow Hits the Wall, Breaks His Nose
Wed Jun 4, 6:52 AM ET


LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Veteran singer-songwriter Barry Manilow (news), recently waking up disoriented in the middle of the night, walked into a wall and broke his nose, knocking himself unconscious, the entertainer disclosed on Tuesday.

The accident occurred at his home in the desert resort of Palm Springs, California, just after Manilow had returned from a two-week stay in the seaside town of Malibu, where he was producing an upcoming album for his old boss, Bette Midler (news).

Roused from a sound sleep thinking he was still in Malibu, Manilow got up and "veered to the left instead of the right and slammed right into the wall," he said in a statement released by his management company, Stiletto Entertainment.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by SEC_Chick
While non-accent-related improper pronoun usage bothers me most, warsh/worsh bugs the hell out of me and people who say it also usually store their clothing in the chester drawers and hang their stockings by the chimley on Christmas Eve.

How about supposebly?

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Since I only ever hear it used by a particular kind of male lawyer, I always assumed it was meant in the football sense; i.e., away from the office and therefore the protection of the blockers. No idea why the definite article gets dropped, though. Probably a confusion with the expense meaning of "out of pocket."

That's very interesting - I had never thought of that. I hear the phrase used by people you would not think were football fans, though - but the football "pocket" may be the origin for the misuse of "out of pocket".

And a question. Why do Americans call a ladies' wallet a pocketbook? It's not a book. And women don't carry their wallets in their pockets.

And BRC/DS, I never really thought there was an Ottawa accent - unless you mean that sort of patrician Canadian newscaster/politician accent that is very flat and comes about as a result of someone trying to lose their regional accent. When I think of an Ottawa accent I think of the Ottawa valley accent, which is particularly egregious.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Wow. Cool post, thanks.

I had always thought the whole "it's not a dialect, that is disrespectful" thing was weird, but I take the linguists view so I understand why I was confused. I am quite curious as to what they mean by "primary language" or "home language" - if they mean "same language but the dialect (grammar and vocabulary: "you be fly") and/or accent (pronunciation: "axe a question") is so different from mainstream that understanding becomes difficult (e.g.: Indian sub-continent English), or if they mean "different language," comparable to Spanish. I know the debate was cast in the press as "they want to say it is a different language and get ESL funds," but I had the impression that was incorrect.

It's amazing to me what went on when people were debating the Oakland issue. I actually heard people say, "they shouldn't be allowed to teach ebonics or get funds to do so." The word "Ebonics" took on a life and definition of its own as a hot button, code-word to bring forth all sorts of otherwise hidden feelings on race.

TM