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Old 12-29-2004, 08:46 PM   #826
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I care. I would think in a new country with the $$$ flowing through, that the potential for fraud would be pretty big. So I'm not surprised.

Ty posted the article as part of his ongoing "Boy is Iraq fucked Up" series. His point, near as I can tell, is the US has done a terrible job in Iraq and should have stayed out. I was merely pointing out that with regard to this one topic, the diversion of big $$$, we are at least better off in that it was exposed.
As you say, Hank, in a third-world country with $$$ flowing through, no one should be surprised at corruption. That it is happening in Iraq is not a particular indictment of anything the Bush Administration is doing there. But I know from your postings about oil-for-food that you conservatives are all bent on cleaning up that part of the Earth and want badly to hold people to a higher standard. I therefore was confident that you would to know about similar malfeasance by our Iraqi pals so that you can rant about them, too.
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Old 12-29-2004, 08:52 PM   #827
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I posted the Montana thing because of the obvious irony, but thanks for pointing it out anyway.
I sort of thought so. Explain that shit to Gattigap, K?
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Old 12-29-2004, 09:09 PM   #828
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I sort of thought so. Explain that shit to Gattigap, K?
You understand, if this is the thanks people get for trying to elevate your prose, Hank, it'll never come off the bathroom walls. Keep this shit up and I'll have to break to you why all of your presents from the Secret Santa were re-gifts.
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Old 12-30-2004, 10:18 AM   #829
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As you say, Hank, in a third-world country with $$$ flowing through, no one should be surprised at corruption. That it is happening in Iraq is not a particular indictment of anything the Bush Administration is doing there. But I know from your postings about oil-for-food that you conservatives are all bent on cleaning up that part of the Earth and want badly to hold people to a higher standard. I therefore was confident that you would to know about similar malfeasance by our Iraqi pals so that you can rant about them, too.
Yes, we agree they should go after this abuse that was not covered up, was not bribed into the shadows and will be dealt with. We are now dealing with 2 Iraq scandals- 1 was just longer term and took a regime change so that we could find out what our allies had been up to.

You find these equivalents I guess. Cheers!

Me? Well, I know corruption exists- remember we had a President a few years back who sold missile secrets to China for $$$. That was in the US, not the 3rd world (no Arkansas jokes Penske!). What's important to me is that it was exposed, and dealt with in a prudent and non-emotional manner.
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Old 12-30-2004, 01:14 PM   #830
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Yes, we agree they should go after this abuse that was not covered up, was not bribed into the shadows and will be dealt with. We are now dealing with 2 Iraq scandals- 1 was just longer term and took a regime change so that we could find out what our allies had been up to.

You find these equivalents I guess. Cheers!

Me? Well, I know corruption exists- remember we had a President a few years back who sold missile secrets to China for $$$. That was in the US, not the 3rd world (no Arkansas jokes Penske!). What's important to me is that it was exposed, and dealt with in a prudent and non-emotional manner.
That's nothing. We had a president before that who sold weapons to fucking Iran.
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Interesting Prescription Drug Editorial

Written by a (soon to be former?) Pfizer exec.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...utlook/2970425
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That's nothing. We had a president before that who sold weapons to fucking Iran.
Wow! Really? Did he do it for personal gain, or was there some underlying political reason?
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Wow! Really? Did he do it for personal gain, or was there some underlying political reason?
Hmmm. I think there was a political reason. Oh yeah, I remember, it was to subvert the Congress of the United States of America.
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Wow! Really? Did he do it for personal gain, or was there some underlying political reason?
Funding the Contras? Buying a cake shaped like a key? Providing intel to SH and Iraq? I forget.

And could you give me cites* for the propositions that (a) Clinton sold missile secrets to China (b) for personal gain? Or is this like the drug-dealer airfield in Mesa?

*From a real news source, or at least from a semi-credible right-wing opinion mag like National Review.
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Old 12-30-2004, 02:07 PM   #835
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Funding the Contras? Buying a cake shaped like a key? Providing intel to SH and Iraq? I forget.

And could you give me cites* for the propositions that (a) Clinton sold missile secrets to China (b) for personal gain? Or is this like the drug-dealer airfield in Mesa?

*From a real news source, or at least from a semi-credible right-wing opinion mag like National Review.
the Clintonistas watch the cites with the real facts, I'm not linking to any of them. 26 who were "outed" are dead already. But read up bob- SS can't be helped. He's an idiot who can't follow logic- but you I have hopes for.
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That's nothing. We had a president before that who sold weapons to fucking Iran.
And we had one before that who traded a few weeks of freedom for hostages in Iran in exchange for a small measure of political advantage.
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And we had one before that who traded a few weeks of freedom for hostages in Iran in exchange for a small measure of political advantage.
I like that your only positive data point is Fucking Carter! If only Mikey Moore could get elected....just doesn't have the TVQ. Maybe if he shaved.
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[Clinton, Reagan, Carter]
Guys, the last week of December is for Newsies to write boring, depressing historical retrospectives on the Year/Decade/Century that Was. I'm not sure that we need to reenact that particular dynamic electronically.
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Old 12-30-2004, 02:41 PM   #839
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Guys, the last week of December is for Newsies to write boring, depressing historical retrospectives on the Year/Decade/Century that Was. I'm not sure that we need to reenact that particular dynamic electronically.
This is fun. I waiting for Hank to tell us about the skeletons in Carter's closet. Or maybe we need bilmore, who may be the only person here who remembers those days well enough.
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I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now.

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This is fun. I waiting for Hank to tell us about the skeletons in Carter's closet. Or maybe we need bilmore, who may be the only person here who remembers those days well enough.
The attack of the killer rabbit. "If Teddy runs, I'll whip his ass." Billy Beer. Ham Jordan's coke habit. Bert Lance. "I asked Amy about nuclear war." Malaise. Chrysler. Boycotting the Moscow Olympics. The Panama Canal. "I have lusted in my heart."
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