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03-21-2005, 02:12 AM
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#826
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Originally posted by Spanky
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You sure you want to out yourself like that?
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03-21-2005, 02:13 AM
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#827
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,050
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Quality Control at CBSNews.com
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Originally posted by Adder
If TS truly is an amoeba
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I think you're mistaking me for Hank.
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Originally posted by Slavey
I've met Tyrone. Despite his leanings, he's really not all that bad.
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I love you, man.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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03-21-2005, 02:16 AM
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#828
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
Posts: 9,477
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a new low
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Adder
Not that I have followed this "case" closely, but I am pretty sure you have your order backward.
It does amaze me though, the lengths that you, who should be entirely against this kind of political grandstanding bullshit, will go to justify whatever the right was. What's happened to your independent streak, man?
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My independent streak is amused when I see the Democratic party actually fighting TO kill someone.
ETA - I see almost half the party stepped up:
"156 Republicans and 47 Democrats voted yes; 53 Democrats and 5 Republicans [Ginny Brown-Waite (Fla.), Mike Castle (Del.), Charles Dent (Penn.), David Reichert (Wash.), and Chris Shays (Conn.)] voted no.
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03-21-2005, 02:20 AM
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#829
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 17,160
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a new low
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
My independent streak is amused when I see the Democratic party actually fighting TO kill someone.
ETA - I see almost half the party stepped up:
"156 Republicans and 47 Democrats voted yes; 53 Democrats and 5 Republicans [Ginny Brown-Waite (Fla.), Mike Castle (Del.), Charles Dent (Penn.), David Reichert (Wash.), and Chris Shays (Conn.)] voted no.
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The fact that members of Congress are pathetic, mindless followers who only care about re-election is not excuse for you.
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03-21-2005, 02:21 AM
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#830
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,050
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a new low
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
My independent streak is amused when I see the Democratic party actually fighting TO kill someone.
ETA - I see almost half the party stepped up:
"156 Republicans and 47 Democrats voted yes; 53 Democrats and 5 Republicans [Ginny Brown-Waite (Fla.), Mike Castle (Del.), Charles Dent (Penn.), David Reichert (Wash.), and Chris Shays (Conn.)] voted no.
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This thing has been litigated for years. This case, like all other cases of this sort, has been litigated in state courts. Why don't we think the state court got it right? These questions are always tough, but we have an answer here. I can respect the Schiavos for not wanting to give up, but I can't respect the Republicans and Democrats who are exploiting them -- and extending Terry Schiavo's misery -- for political gain.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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03-21-2005, 02:26 AM
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#831
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
Posts: 9,477
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Quality Control at CBSNews.com
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Tyrone Slothrop
According to CNN, "'Courts have ruled that Schiavo is in a "persistent vegetative state.'"
I'm willing to concede that courts may have erred, but I tend to doubt it (here and with Mumia).
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Have you listened to Mumia's crap?
He is truly in a vegetative state.
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03-21-2005, 02:36 AM
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#832
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,050
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Quality Control at CBSNews.com
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Have you listened to Mumia's crap?
He is truly in a vegetative state.
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So that makes the both of them?
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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03-21-2005, 02:39 AM
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#833
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For what it's worth
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: With Thumper
Posts: 6,793
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Originally posted by Adder
You sure you want to out yourself like that?
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Whay would I care if anyone knows who I am?
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03-21-2005, 02:42 AM
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#834
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
Posts: 9,477
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a new low
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Tyrone Slothrop
This thing has been litigated for years. This case, like all other cases of this sort, has been litigated in state courts. Why don't we think the state court got it right? These questions are always tough, but we have an answer here. I can respect the Schiavos for not wanting to give up, but I can't respect the Republicans and Democrats who are exploiting them -- and extending Terry Schiavo's misery -- for political gain.
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So you want her to slowly starve to death and slowly dehydrate - for her husband's financial gain?
Funny that you talk about the courts getting it right - and certain Democrats unending fight to free the murderer Mumia - within 2 posts of each other.
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03-21-2005, 02:42 AM
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#835
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
Posts: 9,477
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Spanky
Whay would I care if anyone knows who I am?
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How was the Rhone Rangers tasting?
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03-21-2005, 02:56 AM
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#836
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,050
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a new low
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
So you want her to slowly starve to death and slowly dehydrate - for her husband's financial gain?
Funny that you talk about the courts getting it right - and certain Democrats unending fight to free the murderer Mumia - within 2 posts of each other.
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For her husband's financial gain? No. Because the court that heard the case agreed that it was what she would have wanted. And, if I were in her shoes, it's what I would want.
And I think most Dems would -- like me -- vote to stick it to Mumia.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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03-21-2005, 03:41 AM
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#837
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no penske for me!
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: kayaking
Posts: 52
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Originally posted by Spanky
Whay would I care if anyone knows who I am?
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Rumour has it that a lot of male posters have had the offputting experience of having penske's female socks email them in a sick attempt in faux cyber erotic communication.
Of course, other rumours claim he retired to the blogosphere. Either way, good riddance and thank g-d Congress has not intervened to preserve his presence here.
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I'm not Penske. He is.
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03-21-2005, 03:44 AM
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#838
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
Posts: 9,477
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not_penske
Rumour has it that a lot of male posters have had the offputting experience of having penske's female socks email them in a sick attempt in faux cyber erotic communication.
Of course, other rumours claim he retired to the blogosphere. Either way, good riddance and thank g-d Congress has not intervened to preserve his presence here.
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I miss Penske.
In other news:
On Monday, March 21, 2005, the President signed into law:
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S. 686, which provides that the United States District Court for the Middle District of Florida shall have jurisdiction to hear, determine, and render judgment on a suit or claim by or on behalf of Theresa Marie Schiavo for the alleged violation of any right of Theresa Marie Schiavo under the Constitution or laws of the United States relating to the withholding or withdrawal of food, fluids, or medical treatment necessary to sustain her life; provides that any parent of Theresa Marie Schiavo shall have standing to bring a suit under the Act; and establishes other procedures for a suit under the Act.
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And from the president:
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Today, I signed into law a bill that will allow Federal courts to hear a claim by or on behalf of Terri Schiavo for violation of her rights relating to the withholding or withdrawal of food, fluids, or medical treatment necessary to sustain her life. In cases like this one, where there are serious questions and substantial doubts, our society, our laws, and our courts should have a presumption in favor of life. This presumption is especially critical for those like Terri Schiavo who live at the mercy of others. I appreciate the bipartisan action by the Members of Congress to pass this bill. I will continue to stand on the side of those defending life for all Americans, including those with disabilities.
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03-21-2005, 09:31 AM
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#839
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pop goes the chupacabra
Posts: 18,532
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a new low
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Originally posted by Adder
Not that I have followed this "case" closely, but I am pretty sure you have your order backward.
It does amaze me though, the lengths that you, who should be entirely against this kind of political grandstanding bullshit, will go to justify whatever the right was. What's happened to your independent streak, man?
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His libertarian purity score has dropped to Ty's level in the last 24 hours.
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03-21-2005, 09:42 AM
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#840
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 313
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Schiavo Case Vote
Can anyone find which Senators voted yay or nay on the bill? I found the House bill vote here
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll090.xml
To the extent a husband automatically assumes the role of Guardian in deciding what the wife "would" have wanted, with no rebuttable presumption for cases where the husband has moved on and is with a new woman and has kids with her, stands to benefit from a life insurance policy, he is the sole person who wants her dead, the "machinery" here is just a feeding tube and he is the only one who heard the wife's offhand remark about "not wanting to be kept alive by machines".....well, that seems enough to rebut any presumption.
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