Waiting for Fitzgerald

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
RINO RINO RINO RINO RINO RINO RINO


Won't the market provide? Why should government?

2. I saw a story on CNN about how Starwood Hotels has a crisis command center going from the point two days before the hurricane even hit. They secured their hotels, their employees and since the shit hit the fan, have kept them secured and have most, if not all, back in business.

Nagin, Blanko and the NO city and State of LA governments would need 50 or 60 years to achieve the same result. Perhaps the government should turn the city over to Starwood.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
2. I love Ty like a wayward friend from college who remained drunk and drugged out long after that behaviour was age-appropriate, platonically, but someone needs to say this to him. I hope late at night when he alone with his thoughts, after the wife and kids have gone to sleep and left him to pursue his internet bloggery, that he can think beyond the intoxicating affects of his Zinfandel or Pinot and realise that we have his best interest at heart in trying to get him to see the light of day here.

I pray it be so. please babyjesuschristsuperstar, smile on Ty.

All sorts of things affect the bond market. If some serious source really thought that the spike in rates that Spanky described was solely attributable to which party controlled Congress, I'd like to see more. If, on the other hand, Spanky was talking out of his ass, I'd expect a lot of bluster and crap.

Since all that's forthcoming is the latter, I think we can all tell which was which.

When he asked me for a source, I posted it (The Economist). Compare and contrast, y'all.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
All sorts of things affect the bond market. If some serious source really thought that the spike in rates that Spanky described was solely attributable to which party controlled Congress, I'd like to see more. If, on the other hand, Spanky was talking out of his ass, I'd expect a lot of bluster and crap.

Since all that's forthcoming is the latter, I think we can all tell which was which.

When he asked me for a source, I posted it (The Economist). Compare and contrast, y'all.

the babyjesuschristsuperstar moves in mysterious ways.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Spanky
Guys, Guys, Guys. There is a cold wind blowing through here. The whole city of New Orleans is a flood plain. If you are rich, then OK you should have seen this coming. But what about all the poor people that have lived there for generations. Where they all supposed to move out? They detrimentally relied on the levee.

2. Well put.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
All sorts of things affect the bond market. If some serious source really thought that the spike in rates that Spanky described was solely attributable to which party controlled Congress, I'd like to see more. If, on the other hand, Spanky was talking out of his ass, I'd expect a lot of bluster and crap.

Since all that's forthcoming is the latter, I think we can all tell which was which.

When he asked me for a source, I posted it (The Economist). Compare and contrast, y'all.

Not true. Spanky referenced "common knowledge" and "generally accepted wisdom." Hard sources to beat, Ty.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Not true. Spanky referenced "common knowledge" and "generally accepted wisdom." Hard sources to beat, Ty.

Ooh, burn.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop


When he asked me for a source, I posted it (The Economist). Compare and contrast, y'all.

Your ideas on sources are really screwed up. You confuse opinions with primary sources and facts. You stated that the Bush administration intentionally mispredicted budget numbers. Then you asked why I did not acknowledge this fact. It is not a fact. Just because people are speculating about it does not make it a fact. I was asking for some evidence supporting this idea. That would be someone from the administration leaking or admitting that such an event occurred. Or someone witnessing such a conspiracy. Speculation that it might have happened does not mean anything. You cite an Economist article that discusses such speculation without really taking a position.

If I ask for evidence for something, people speculation about it does not qualified as evidence.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Not true. Spanky referenced "common knowledge" and "generally accepted wisdom." Hard sources to beat, Ty.

Ty argued earlier against the idea that FDR misled the public about his intentions on getting the US involved in WWII. He also was skeptical about the fact the public buses where flooded during the Hurricane. Was he not questioning "common knowledge at these junctures"? Why should I have looked for cites to back this stuff up?

Why should I look up cites to demonstrate that the bond markets were disappointed in the 93 deficit reduction act? I am confident it happened. Why should I care if he believes it? If I spent my time finding cites to obvious facts that would negatively effect Tys twisted perception of reality it would be a 24/7 job.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
2. Well put.

My faith in humanity is restored. There is no worse feeling than having liberals tell you that poor people need to suck it up. Where are the defenders of the poor and dispossessed? Is Ty the only compassionate Dem on this board? Are the rest of you just Dems because it is cool, but in reality are just greedy capitalists that don't care about people that are more unfortunate than you?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
Ty argued earlier against the idea that FDR misled the public about his intentions on getting the US involved in WWII. He also was skeptical about the fact the public buses where flooded during the Hurricane. Was he not questioning "common knowledge at these junctures"? Why should I have looked for cites to back this stuff up?

I posted factual evidence of both of the items you cite above and those facts were ignored or non-substantively discounted. In fairness, Ty acknowledged that we were right and he and his liberalista cohorts and thugs were wrong on those items when he issued his blanket acceptance of responsibility and apology.

Originally posted by Spanky
If I spent my time finding cites to obvious facts that would negatively effect Tys twisted perception of reality it would be a 24/7 job.

Word. Ty has a cadre of blogsters working 24/7 to churn out illusory and fallacious "source material" for his insights. Unfair advantage.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
My faith in humanity is restored. There is no worse feeling than having liberals tell you that poor people need to suck it up. Where are the defenders of the poor and dispossessed? Is Ty the only compassionate Dem on this board? Are the rest of you just Dems because it is cool, but in reality are just greedy capitalists that don't care about people that are more unfortunate than you?

Excatly. This is the part that burns me and any rightminded American. Ted Kennedy and his criminal enterprise (aka the Kennedy family) have a net worth of in excess of $600M. Many of this ilk claim to be civic minded social activists concerned about the living standards of the least amongst us, and in furtherance of the same "social justice and equity" they insinuate themselves in positions of power on the public dole, much like insidious viral agents in the body, eg HIV, and seek to take the money of hardworking middle and upper middle class Americans to further their utopian ideal of marxist redistribution of wealth. Yet, in their spare time, they loll on their yachts and in their mansions in the most exclusive of American communities drinking French champagne and eating Soviet caviar, while the rest of us continue to toil and strive to save a few dollars so our children can have a little bit more than we, perhaps Cold Duck and Sushi take-out.

If these Kennedys were so interested in social justice, why not liquidate their assets, give each family member $1M dollars, which is more than enough to create a solid economic foundation to build a life upon and then give the remaining several hundred million to the poor?

[2nd Amendment alert!] Answer, becuase they are greedy Marxist thugs looking to rape and pillage the freedom fighting patriots of this Land.[/2nd Amendment alert!]

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Excatly. This is the part that burns me and any rightminded American. Ted Kennedy and his criminal enterprise (aka the Kennedy family) have a net worth of in excess of $600M. Many of this ilk claim to be civic minded social activists concerned about the living standards of the least amongst us, and in furtherance of the same "social justice and equity" they insinuate themselves in positions of power on the public dole, much like insidious viral agents in the body, eg HIV, and seek to take the money of hardworking middle and upper middle class Americans to further their utopian ideal of marxist redistribution of wealth. Yet, in their spare time, they loll on their yachts and in their mansions in the most exclusive of American communities drinking French champagne and eating Soviet caviar, while the rest of us continue to toil and strive to save a few dollars so our children can have a little bit more than we, perhaps Cold Duck and Sushi take-out.

If these Kennedys were so interested in social justice, why not liquidate their assets, give each family member $1M dollars, which is more than enough to create a solid economic foundation to build a life upon and then give the remaining several hundred million to the poor?

[2nd Amendment alert!] Answer, becuase they are greedy Marxist thugs looking to rape and pillage the freedom fighting patriots of this Land.[/2nd Amendment alert!]

If I was poor I wouldn't take Kennedy money. Should we ask the poor to drop their integrity and morals? the Kennedy money was stolen over the blood of hundreds. Joe, Sr. was more a criminal than any of his kids.

I think if teddy wanted to find who his dad killed and give them retribution- god bless, but you can't ask a clean person whose only crime is poverty to touch that filth money, can you?

[Spanky]

If I was poor I would take their money. Hell I would take their money now.

I think Kennedy really cares. He may be a pig, but he is a pig that does care about the less fortunate. Is there really any evidence to show he is corrupt. I don't think he has ever gained financially from his public service.

Am I wrong?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Spanky
You cite an Economist article that discusses such speculation without really taking a position.

What use is there in posting evidence if you are going to misread it in this fashion?

And I thought you might bother to read The Economist.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Spanky
If I was poor I would take their money. Hell I would take their money now.

I think Kennedy really cares. He may be a pig, but he is a pig that does care about the less fortunate. Is there really any evidence to show he is corrupt. I don't think he has ever gained financially from his public service.

Am I wrong?

Has he used his office to gain monetarially. i would hope not, he's already wealthy beyond reason. Did he use his office to get out of a murder/negligient homicide charge? you decide.

My point was the family money came from crime.