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Old 03-11-2004, 11:12 AM   #841
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What we also need is a mumu and sweat suit tax. I used to suffer night sweats when the secretaries used to be able to wear sweat pant type outfits at the pinnacle of the late 90s corp casual revolution. "No!!!! For the love of Christ... I'll come out and get the letter myself! Do not walk into my office!!!"

The horror, the horror.
One of our admins had neck fat sucking surgery.

She's still ugly and fat and eats pizza for breakfast. Deep dish.
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Old 03-11-2004, 11:13 AM   #842
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Oh shit, I'm breaking my promise here.

Dude, I understand your concern about the fatties, but that kind of tax would be regressive as hell. A lot of people eat shitty food because that's mostly what they can afford to eat or have time to prepare, if they prepare it at all.

First, the government subsidizes agriculture, allowing them to overproduce this shit. Food producers use it because it's cheap and helps their margins. I'm not so sure you don't use the tax to disincentivize the use of this crap in food production, rather than the other way around. If it's not cheap to use, for example, hydrogenated vegetable oil as opposed to a healthier alternative, food producers won't use it, In the alternative, maybe the gov't should just cut some of the ag subsidies.

Okay really, enough.
Oh, I agree with cutting all the subsidies. Waste of money.

I'm not talking about taxing Jif because it contains hydrogenated oil. I'm talking about taxing soda, candy, cakes, chips, etc. No rational person eats a Twinkie, 29 oz Coke and bag of Doritos for dinner because he doesn't have the time to fix a salad and salmon steak. Those sort of snack foods have no value at all. In fact, they're probably WORSE for you than moderate daily indulgence in booze and the occasional cigarette, both of which are subject to the sin tax. Ask a doctor which will fuck you up faster - a diet rich in Entenmanns, soda and Krispy Kreme or a drink a day and a few smokes a week. He'll probably sheepishly admit that Entenmanns addict is going to die of heart disease long before the social smoker/boozer.
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Old 03-11-2004, 11:13 AM   #843
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Fuck... that's the solution to the whole issue - a fat tax. Add a few cents to the cost of all gratuitously fat-laden snack foods. That would load the coffers of SS through the year 3000.

Of course, naturally fatty items such as brie, filet mignon, etc... would be exempted, as well as healthy fatty food, such as olive oil and avacados.

This would force the suplliers of fat-filled garbage like Kraft and Con Agra to use safer alternatives to partially hydrogenated oils.

The only problem is that this probably invites a tax on alcohol. But I have faith in the lobbying power of Big Booze. They've got way more clout on the Hill than Big Fat.
You want a processed food tax. ANything that comes in a bag or a box and has preservatives added. Anything dyed orange or with visible salt on it. ANything in a bag that is sealed for freshness. THat shit should be taxed like a New York City cigarette. I am sick of supporting the fat fucks with the heart attacks and the surgery bc their backs and knees cant carry their shit around anymore. BIg honking chunks of my paycheck go to these slow moving, clog the escalator, take the elevator to the second floor fucks and I have had it. Take up smoking, its healthier and promotes weight loss and the stimulants might encourage you to take the stairs for the first time in your fat fuck life. Anyone who opens a bag of doritoes or a twinkie should be as shunned as a smoker bc its just as much of a disgusting complusive addiction for the sole purpose of instant gratification at the expense of not long term health.
 
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You want a processed food tax. ANything that comes in a bag or a box and has preservatives added. Anything dyed orange or with visible salt on it. ANything in a bag that is sealed for freshness. THat shit should be taxed like a New York City cigarette. I am sick of supporting the fat fucks with the heart attacks and the surgery bc their backs and knees cant carry their shit around anymore. BIg honking chunks of my paycheck go to these slow moving, clog the escalator, take the elevator to the second floor fucks and I have had it. Take up smoking, its healthier and promotes weight loss and the stimulants might encourage you to take the stairs for the first time in your fat fuck life. Anyone who opens a bag of doritoes or a twinkie should be as shunned as a smoker bc its just as much of a disgusting complusive addiction for the sole purpose of instant gratification at the expense of not long term health.
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Old 03-11-2004, 11:18 AM   #845
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Oh shit, I'm breaking my promise here.

Dude, I understand your concern about the fatties, but that kind of tax would be regressive as hell. A lot of people eat shitty food because that's mostly what they can afford to eat or have time to prepare, if they prepare it at all.

First, the government subsidizes agriculture, allowing them to overproduce this shit. Food producers use it because it's cheap and helps their margins. I'm not so sure you don't use the tax to disincentivize the use of this crap in food production, rather than the other way around. If it's not cheap to use, for example, hydrogenated vegetable oil as opposed to a healthier alternative, food producers won't use it, In the alternative, maybe the gov't should just cut some of the ag subsidies.

Okay really, enough.
I didnt realize that brown rice and beans were expensive. Or sweet potatoes. And steamed broccoli. Bullshti. They crave salt. Fine, let them eat their disgusting food, just get the hell off my payroll and dont expect me to pay for your heart attacks and surgeries.
 
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I gave a presnetation to govt board a few years back and one huuuge dude had a ketchup spot right dead center of his shirt. It was distracting as hell. I wanted to stand up and say "Aw, for fuck's sake man, show me a little fucking respect. Its hard enough being a young associate."
Thats bc govt workers are so poorly paid that they can only afford fast food. and the sealed for freshness ketchup packs explode like Sebby on Brooke Burke when opened by a ravenous govt worker who coudlnt afford breakfast. have some sympathy, dude. This is also why govt workers wear polyester. Ketchup and burger (not coooter) stains come right out.
 
Old 03-11-2004, 11:23 AM   #847
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Oh, I agree with cutting all the subsidies. Waste of money.

1. I'm not talking about taxing Jif because it contains hydrogenated oil.

2. I'm talking about taxing soda, candy, cakes, chips, etc. No rational person eats a Twinkie, 29 oz Coke and bag of Doritos for dinner because he doesn't have the time to fix a salad and salmon steak. Those sort of snack foods have no value at all. In fact, they're probably WORSE for you than moderate daily indulgence in booze and the occasional cigarette, both of which are subject to the sin tax.
1. Yeah, but maybe we should be. If it's not so cheap to make this crap, there will be less incentive to make it.

2. You're forgetting that people will eat what they can afford to eat on a regluar basis. Let's put aside the convenience factor for a moment. People eat some of this stuff because it's cheaper to do so. I'm willing to bet that more people might be willing to choose a salmon steak over Hamburger Helper, for example, if they were able to afford it, but a lot of them aren't able to.
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Old 03-11-2004, 11:25 AM   #848
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You want a processed food tax. ANything that comes in a bag or a box and has preservatives added. Anything dyed orange or with visible salt on it. ANything in a bag that is sealed for freshness. THat shit should be taxed like a New York City cigarette. I am sick of supporting the fat fucks with the heart attacks and the surgery bc their backs and knees cant carry their shit around anymore. BIg honking chunks of my paycheck go to these slow moving, clog the escalator, take the elevator to the second floor fucks and I have had it. Take up smoking, its healthier and promotes weight loss and the stimulants might encourage you to take the stairs for the first time in your fat fuck life. Anyone who opens a bag of doritoes or a twinkie should be as shunned as a smoker bc its just as much of a disgusting complusive addiction for the sole purpose of instant gratification at the expense of not long term health.
Paigow, I think Spooky's point was that he has really been working a lot lately, and hasn't had time to keep up/start exercising. There were so many projects last year, he really couldn't eat healthy. And for a man his age 40 lbs over is really fat, especially in context of Ohio.

He promises to start walking to McDonalds once its warmer.
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Old 03-11-2004, 11:26 AM   #849
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1. Yeah, but maybe we should be (stopping ag subs). If it's not so cheap to make this crap, there will be less incentive to make it.
Stopping ag subsidies would instantly rejuvenate several impoverished Caribbean countries, and so cannot be allowed to happen.

(Yes, that's sarcasm.)
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Old 03-11-2004, 11:26 AM   #850
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You want a processed food tax. ANything that comes in a bag or a box and has preservatives added. Anything dyed orange or with visible salt on it. ANything in a bag that is sealed for freshness. THat shit should be taxed like a New York City cigarette. I am sick of supporting the fat fucks with the heart attacks and the surgery bc their backs and knees cant carry their shit around anymore. BIg honking chunks of my paycheck go to these slow moving, clog the escalator, take the elevator to the second floor fucks and I have had it. Take up smoking, its healthier and promotes weight loss and the stimulants might encourage you to take the stairs for the first time in your fat fuck life. Anyone who opens a bag of doritoes or a twinkie should be as shunned as a smoker bc its just as much of a disgusting complusive addiction for the sole purpose of instant gratification at the expense of not long term health.
I can't believe the day I take you off ignore I find I post I completely agree with.

Tax all refined sugars. That's why Atkins works. Carbs aren't bad, but most of the carbs eaten in America ARE bad b/c they're not based on natural sugars, fibers and grains. In America, Atkins makes sense.

Additionally, and I've mentioned this before, I wish the CDC would do a study on the correlation of the addition of hormones/steroids into our meat and the increase in obesity in this country. There's a reason (besides protectionism) that the EU doesn't want our meat.

Actually, I know a epidemiologist who used to work for the CDC...I'll get back to you...
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Tax all refined sugars.
It makes no sense to heavily subsidize the production and then tax the consumption, aside from a desire to increase the government's cash flow.
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It makes no sense to heavily subsidize the production and then tax the consumption, aside from a desire to increase the government's cash flow.
Tax it enough so it's no longer efficient to refine it.

Edited to add: And stop taking all the fun out our rants by inserting logic.
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Paigow, I think Spooky's point was that he has really been working a lot lately, and hasn't had time to keep up/start exercising. There were so many projects last year, he really couldn't eat healthy. And for a man his age 40 lbs over is really fat, especially in context of Ohio.

He promises to start walking to McDonalds once its warmer.
Actually, I felt sorry for your mother. I see her standing on the street corner as I'm driving home from work every night. Of course, she actually needs all of that blubber to stay warm, since "business" hasn't been too good for her lately and she lost the house.
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I can't believe the day I take you off ignore I find I post I completely agree with.

Tax all refined sugars. That's why Atkins works. Carbs aren't bad, but most of the carbs eaten in America ARE bad b/c they're not based on natural sugars, fibers and grains. In America, Atkins makes sense.

Additionally, and I've mentioned this before, I wish the CDC would do a study on the correlation of the addition of hormones/steroids into our meat and the increase in obesity in this country. There's a reason (besides protectionism) that the EU doesn't want our meat.

Actually, I know a epidemiologist who used to work for the CDC...I'll get back to you...
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That's not true. Money seems to have changed that quite effectively for her for some time.





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