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Old 03-11-2004, 12:08 PM   #871
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Is tobacco a necessity?

Maybe we should just inject healthy foods with nicotine a la Tomacco.
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Old 03-11-2004, 12:08 PM   #872
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One of our admins had neck fat sucking surgery.

She's still ugly and fat and eats pizza for breakfast. Deep dish.
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Old 03-11-2004, 12:12 PM   #873
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There's a great movie that came out at Sundance recently where a healthy guy eats nothing but fast food for a month. At the end of the month, his cholestrol is throught the roof and he's gained 30 LBS. Yes, 30. .
Supersizeme.com

I'm guessing, though, that if you ate three meals a day at most any restaurant--from Applebee's to Morton's to Le Cirque, and accepted any waiter's offer to "supersize" or the equivalent (would you like a dessert today? would you care for an appetizer?), you would gain as much. It's called self-control, and the rules of this guy's experiment prevented him from exerting any.
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Old 03-11-2004, 12:16 PM   #874
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Is tobacco a necessity?
For some.

(But, more responsively, I think that situation makes no sense, also.)
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Old 03-11-2004, 12:16 PM   #875
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The hobbit can't sing
And he certainly can't dance
Fucking Mormon vote.
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Old 03-11-2004, 12:23 PM   #876
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I'm with the people on this one.

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Old 03-11-2004, 12:27 PM   #877
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Maybe it is up to the people who are educated to educate others, rather than just criticizing, because it is us who probably end up paying for their health problems.
Criticizing is less frustrating and time consuming than educating. And criticizing is very unlikely to result in the ameliorization of the problem, thus allowing us to continue to feel superior, which is fun.
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Old 03-11-2004, 12:30 PM   #878
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1. Yeah, but maybe we should be. If it's not so cheap to make this crap, there will be less incentive to make it.

2. You're forgetting that people will eat what they can afford to eat on a regluar basis. Let's put aside the convenience factor for a moment. People eat some of this stuff because it's cheaper to do so. I'm willing to bet that more people might be willing to choose a salmon steak over Hamburger Helper, for example, if they were able to afford it, but a lot of them aren't able to.
Fast food ain't that cheap. I'm willing to bet the ingredients of a chicken salad or a turkey on whole wheat probably aren't miles above that of a Big Mac, fries and 90 oz Coke.

Are some folks eating shitty because they don't have the time to do otherwise? Yes, and thats unfortunate. But what about the piles of people in my neighborhood with good jobs carting home boxes of Ho-Hos, cases of Coke and deep dish pizzas? I don't want to hurt the poor woman working three jobs to feed her kids, but I also don't want to give a free pass to the 30 year old chicken-wing inhaling junk food Pac-Man next door who looks like he walked out of a Botero.

I guess the comprimise is to leave fast food alone, but tax the piss out of junk food.
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Old 03-11-2004, 12:32 PM   #879
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In this post, I use the word "ameliorization."

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Criticizing is less frustrating and time consuming than educating. And criticizing is very unlikely to result in the ameliorization of the problem, thus allowing us to continue to feel superior, which is fun.
You seem to forget, O whiffy kitty, that adopting a caring and do-good attitude is yet another way to feel superior.
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Old 03-11-2004, 12:34 PM   #880
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Criticizing is less frustrating and time consuming than educating. And criticizing is very unlikely to result in the ameliorization of the problem, thus allowing us to continue to feel superior, which is fun.
Educating is not hard.

Lesson One: "You're not getting laid because you're fat."

Congrats, you've graduated!

That tends to do the trick.
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Old 03-11-2004, 12:35 PM   #881
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Criticizing is less frustrating and time consuming than educating. And criticizing is very unlikely to result in the ameliorization of the problem, thus allowing us to continue to feel superior, which is fun.
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Old 03-11-2004, 12:36 PM   #882
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the 30 year old chicken-wing inhaling junk food Pac-Man next door who looks like he walked out of a Botero.
Wow. I like that.
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Old 03-11-2004, 12:36 PM   #883
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A lot of the "it's cheaper to eat fast food" myth stems from people who truly do eat paycheck to paycheck, and who never go into a grocery store and stock up their kitchen with "ingredients". In a kitchen without oil, flour, sugar, and all the million other little items, you can't make a dinner unless you buy everything for that dinner. Thus, a Big Mac becomes a cheaper alternative.

Granted, it's not truly cheaper - but, in a very short-term view (which is what people with ten dollars until next payday tend to live by), it's more managable.
Yes (and "Yes" to GWNC's post on eduction). The time/convenience issue is real, but the "junk food is less expensive" issue is a myth. Avoiding junk food doesn't leave you with a diet of chanterelle mushrooms and $3 per piece sushi. A cheap lunch is a ham and mustard sandwich and an apple stuffed in a bag on your way out the door in the morning, not McDonalds or nuking a prepackaged burrito to eat with some chips. If the Mr. and I could scrape together the time to go shopping regularly and the energy to remember how to turn on the oven, we'd probably eat sirloin and salad every night, maybe substituting chicken or some other green thing instead, just for fun. And it would be a hell of a lot cheaper than eating out, ordering in, boiling Lean Cuisine or heading for McD's. And it would be one hell of a lot more healthy than any of those options.

I don't even think the education would be that hard - it's not difficult (or much of anything) to learn, it is just that the whole idea somehow magically never occurs to a lot of people. I can't cook to save my life, know jack-all about it, but I have figured out how to chop up a head of lettuce, usually boil water successfully (admittedly, not always - I've learned the hard way NOT to put in pasta before you actually see bubbles), and can often even cook meat without turning it to charcoal.

I refer back to my three brilliant and foolproof weight loss diet plans:

Eat nothing you don't cook yourself.
No between meal snacks.
Eat nothing that is not presented on a proper place setting at a table in front of you which excludes any plastic or paper.
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Old 03-11-2004, 12:37 PM   #884
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Criticizing is less frustrating and time consuming than educating. And criticizing is very unlikely to result in the ameliorization of the problem, thus allowing us to continue to feel superior, which is fun.
Hey, music snob. Buy this: The Go "The Go"

Donot buy this: The Von Bondies "Pawn Shoppe Heart"
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Old 03-11-2004, 12:40 PM   #885
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Wow. I like that.
You wanna get a cease and desist from Botero's lawyer? Post some photos of pedestrians on Market Street around lunch time on the net.
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