Patting the wrists, rolling the eyes. - Page 59

bilmore · 03-21-2005, 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Why did you bother? At that time, federalism meant something. And states were relevant.

All thirteen of them.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 03-21-2005, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
This is the part of this case that really ticks me off. What business does the federal government have in this matter? Fucking hipocrates.

ETA: From Andrew Sullivan:

So it is now the federal government's role to micro-manage baseball and to prevent a single Florida woman who is trapped in a living hell from dying with dignity. We're getting to the point when conservatism has become a political philosophy that believes that government - at the most distant level - has the right to intervene in almost anything to achieve the right solution. Today's conservatism is becoming yesterday's liberalism.

Indeed, I have heard far more Democrats discuss "the proper role of government" of late than Republicans. Face it, club, the Rs are a party of international intervention, activist federal judges, and wild-ass crazy deficit spending. Call in Daniel Webster before it's too late.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 03-21-2005, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Indeed, I have heard far more Democrats discuss "the proper role of government" of late than Republicans.

Sure, when you're out of power, that's the best rhetorical device.

Let's wait on the clinton judge's decision on schiavo before throwing around the activist judge term.

ETA: Here's the motion. I've read better pleadings from death-row inmates.

Hank Chinaski · 03-21-2005, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Indeed, I have heard far more Democrats discuss "the proper role of government" of late than Republicans. Face it, club, the Rs are a party of international intervention, activist federal judges, and wild-ass crazy deficit spending. Call in Daniel Webster before it's too late.

All your base are belong to us!

ltl/fb · 03-21-2005, 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
All your base are belong to us!

What language did you run your post through (and back) on the translator? Icelandic? B/c it was a good one. I have no idea what the original thought was.

ETA because I'm not as much of a geek as I might have thought http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_you...e_belong_to_us

Hank, I think you need to do your avatar dressed up like the Weird Science guys (uh, that was the one where they had bras tied over their heads, or briefs on their heads, or something -- right?)

bilmore · 03-21-2005, 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Face it, club, the Rs are a party of international intervention, activist federal judges, and wild-ass crazy deficit spending.

Who knew such a move towards the middle could result in the R's winning everything?

ltl/fb · 03-21-2005, 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
Who knew such a move towards the middle could result in the R's winning everything?

And winning is all, as we know.

Hank Chinaski · 03-21-2005, 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
And winning is all, as we know.

"It was necessary that we take the illegal funds from the Chinese Government, as it was very important to the country that I win re-election."

William Jefferson Clinton
President of the United States

Replaced_Texan · 03-21-2005, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
Who knew such a move towards the middle could result in the R's winning everything?

Right.

ltl/fb · 03-21-2005, 02:04 PM

Could someone post a link to this form we are all supposed to fill out? I think everyone I know is well aware that I'm pro-death under pretty much all circumstances, but . . .

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 03-21-2005, 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Let's wait on the clinton judge's decision on schiavo before throwing around the activist judge term.

The Rs embraced judicial activism with Bush v. Gore. This one's just a footnote.

Hank Chinaski · 03-21-2005, 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
The Rs embraced judicial activism with Bush v. Gore. This one's just a footnote.

Actually that was stopping judicial activism, but thanks for playing!

Sexual Harassment Panda · 03-21-2005, 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
And winning is all, as we know.

Certainly more important than principle. Other than a strong national defense*, one wonders just what the Republican Party stands for these days.

* With a carve-out for taking care of wounded veterans.

ltl/fb · 03-21-2005, 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Certainly more important than principle. Other than a strong national defense*, one wonders just what the Republican Party stands for these days.

* With a carve-out for taking care of wounded veterans.

Tax cuts.

viet_mom · 03-21-2005, 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Because that's what several courts have found that she would have wanted, and we should do everything in our power to ensure that our wishes regarding self-determination are followed.

Several people, including and especially her husband, have testified that she had expressed clear wishes that she did not want to be kept alive artificially, and though it would have been impossible for her to have foreseen this particular circumstance, the courts found that she would have wanted to be removed from life support.

We don't give blood to Jehovah's Witnesses in this country, even though there have been several cases where they've died for lack of transfusion. We don't force care on Christian Scientists to get care.

I respect that the courts have examined the Schiavo issue but this situation is unusual. First, we may have some flawed legislation on the guardianship issue. Maybe. But we definitely have major issues here: the hubby is essentially remarried and is in essence, the only true testifier of what the wife's wishes would be, Teri Schiavo is only on a feeding tube and most people who say "I don't want to be kept alive by machines/artificially" are thinking breathing/heart machines and Karen Quinlan; most people in the "unplug the machine" situation are comatose whereas this lady is awake, smiling at her parents and her eyes light up when she sees them. In my mind, definitely worth more attention especially since Teri does not appear to be suffering pain (except when she is denied water in the middle of the latest pissing matches between Repubs and Dems).

On another note, I read somewhere that a "tycoon" (I'd love for someone to define that for me. Barring that, I'd like to be one) offered a boatload of money to the husband to hand over guardianship to the wife's parents. If that is true, the financial motive for wanting the tube out seems flimsy.