Waiting for Fitzgerald

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I can identify one worse feeling: When you are conversing with someone who claims to be a die-hard anti-tax free market anti-government Republican, but who thinks we should spend a lot of public money to help poor people, and you say "fuck them, the market will provide," thinking that only an illiterate would miss the irony in that statement, and he misses it.





See above. And try to think harder when you read.

I think my post preceded yours. At the time I posted it I believe Ty was the only one that challenged it. Didn't yours come later (or at least you posted it when I was working on my response).

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Spanky
Again, in your world thing that back your preconceived notions of the world don't require evidence where things that do not require overwhelming evidence.

??? I think you have ben posting here too long, and/or reading posts by Hank and Penske too much. This is so incoherent.

Wait, maybe you just can't do long sentences -- if so, please go back to your normal style of short, declarative sentences only. If you could cut some of the repetitiveness, it'd be nice, but I would rather see repetitiveness than this bizarre incoherence.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Spanky
I think my post preceded yours. At the time I posted it I believe Ty was the only one that challenged it. Didn't yours come later (or at least you posted it when I was working on my response).

My "fuck em, the market will provide" post was at 4:48 pm on Friday. Your "don't you liberals care about poor people" post was at noon on Saturday.

And fuck you for making me go back to check all of this.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Spanky
My faith in humanity is restored. There is no worse feeling than having liberals tell you that poor people need to suck it up. Where are the defenders of the poor and dispossessed? Is Ty the only compassionate Dem on this board? Are the rest of you just Dems because it is cool, but in reality are just greedy capitalists that don't care about people that are more unfortunate than you?

The Katrina evacuees are in my back yard now. I have become a Conservative.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
??? I think you have ben posting here too long, and/or reading posts by Hank and Penske too much. This is so incoherent.

Wait, maybe you just can't do long sentences -- if so, please go back to your normal style of short, declarative sentences only. If you could cut some of the repetitiveness, it'd be nice, but I would rather see repetitiveness than this bizarre incoherence.

If you are implying that spank has been influenced or has learned from Penske and me, then, ipsa facto, our posts must be coherent.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Spanky
Why would we care what you want? To most everyone else this was common knowledge. It was like you were asking for a cite showing that Thomas Jefferson was the third president. Why would we find such a cite for you; something we all know to be obviously true?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
If you are implying that spank has been influenced or has learned from Penske and me, then, ipsa facto, our posts must be coherent.

I think your ipso facto thingy works for "learned from" but one could be influenced even by The Sound and the Fury.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/

Thanks! I don't know the presidents in order. The only one I could name by number is George Washington.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Spanky
Common knowlede.

1) Are you saying that FDR misleading the public about WWII is not common knowledge and needs cites?

2) Even Ty earlier agreed that Bush probably believed there where no WMDs when he released those statements. I believe lying requires Mens Rea. It is another allegation that we do not have proof of yet you want to accept as fact. Just like Bush intentionally mispredicted the budget numbers.

Again, in your world thing that back your preconceived notions of the world don't require evidence where things that do not require overwhelming evidence.

On reading your post I
was rather distraught
that you speak of my world
of which you know naught.

You lump us together,
as if you had read
in my post words
never written or said.

You lack real humor,
have no sense of style,
from one post to the next
your words miss by a mile.

I fear that this discourse
may make me seem rude,
but your literal mind
makes you seem like a boob.

S_A_M :poke:

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
I can post all I want,
So long as I rhyme.
The problem's that rhyming
Gets easier with time.

But Weedy's concern
Is one I share, too:
When I'm drafting contracts
Now verses sneak through.

The root cause is a fancy
My mind lately took:
To write nasty nursery
Rhymes for a book.

Old Father William,
with his very white head,
will be taking Viagra
to stand in his bed,

And you don't want to know
what Jack Sprat and his wife
are eating in my version -
No, not on your life.

Rhyming can be quite fun
And BRC you have a sharp wit
But before this thread is done
I must point out that I invented it.

(well, Shifter's girfriend, Katy, had a part.)

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/

That was mean.

S_A_M :rofl:

[Captain]

Originally posted by Spanky
Common knowlede.

1) Are you saying that FDR misleading the public about WWII is not common knowledge and needs cites?

Well, since PBS had a special on it, it must be true.

Actually, there has been hot debate among historians, and so if it is "common knowledge" I would say the non-specialists know a lot more about it than the specialists.

There was a treatise in the early 80s on FDR and Isolationism by a guy named Cole that argued that the administration was intentionally seeking to shift public opinion away from isolationism so that intervention would be possible. My understanding is that recent scholarship is more of the view that FDR followed rather than led public opinion, and that he remained deeply torn.

While I happen to be of the view that he likely knew war was coming and so was trying to prepare public opinion for it gradually (in other words, that he was intentionally misleading), I won't say that I know this or that it is or should be common knowledge.

Though the PBS special did present it virtually as a fact - are you relying on PBS for your authority here?

[dtb]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Rhyming can be quite fun
And BRC you have a sharp wit
But before this thread is done
I must point out that I invented it.

(well, Shifter's girfriend, Katy, had a part.)

Sniff. We're perfect together.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Captain
Well, since PBS had a special on it, it must be true.

Actually, there has been hot debate among historians, and so if it is "common knowledge" I would say the non-specialists know a lot more about it than the specialists.

There was a treatise in the early 80s on FDR and Isolationism by a guy named Cole that argued that the administration was intentionally seeking to shift public opinion away from isolationism so that intervention would be possible. My understanding is that recent scholarship is more of the view that FDR followed rather than led public opinion, and that he remained deeply torn.

While I happen to be of the view that he likely knew war was coming and so was trying to prepare public opinion for it gradually (in other words, that he was intentionally misleading), I won't say that I know this or that it is or should be common knowledge.

Though the PBS special did present it virtually as a fact - are you relying on PBS for your authority here?

do you have cites for ANY of this?

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Rhyming can be quite fun
And BRC you have a sharp wit
But before this thread is done
I must point out that I invented it.

(well, Shifter's girfriend, Katy, had a part.)

Well as I breathe and live,
I hate to be derivative,
So I'll upgrade my form
From the current old norm,
And hope change is regenerative!