Politics: Onward from New Hampshire

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by bilmore
I was speaking of the sort of ambition that causes a twenty-year-old Clinton to begin planning his presidential inaugeration speech. I doubt Bush had really even discovered coke yet at that age.

Of course, you are charging Kerry with seeking to advance his ambition by exposing himself to active combat in a distant part of the world in service to his country.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Sen. Kerry will or should be largely insulated from such charges during the campaign.

If I was unclear, let me say this - I have NO quibble with Kerry's actual war record. None. Very impressive. I spoke only concerning his self-grooming for political fortunes starting back at Yale, and his self-aggrandizing behavior before and after the war.

And his ever-pretty hair.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Of course, you are charging Kerry with seeking to advance his ambition by exposing himself to active combat in a distant part of the world in service to his country.

Many of us have more respect for the slackers who don't get off their asses to do anything except sit on the sofa and take cheap shots at the go-getters who do impressive shit but clearly know all the while that they're the shit and have great hair.

This post probably belongs on the FB, where everyone will agree that I am mainly correct.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Many of us have more respect for the slackers who don't get off their asses to do anything except sit on the sofa and take cheap shots at the go-getters who do impressive shit but clearly know all the while that they're the shit and have great hair.

You are reaching new levels of inanity. I credit your primaries with energizing you.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by bilmore
You are reaching new levels of inanity. I credit your primaries with energizing you.

By the way, what did you do during the war in Vietnam?

[SlaveNoMore]

1) Will Howard Dean now volunteer to use that immense war chest of his to help pay down the deficit?

2) Will Howard Dean stab Al Gore in the eye for his kiss-of-death endorsement?

3) Will Hillary step in the race since we ALL know that no one really WANTS to vote for John Kerry?

4) If not, how does Slick Willie slide back in prominence now that the Lil' [Rock] General is a bobtail nag?

5) Does moveon.org actually "move on" to another candidate?

6) Does Cheney [cough cough] all of sudden get ill, and Bush has to replace him on the ticket with the other Senator John Vietnam?

7) Who will Atticus beat up next?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by bilmore
You are reaching new levels of inanity.

I thought I was articulating what you were saying. It's all well and good that Kerry has accomplished some impressive things, but the fact that he is so self-conscious and ambitious about all of it makes him much less admirable. It's a Kantian thing. We want him to have done these things for their own intrinsic merit, not out of ulterior motives.

I may come around yet, but I've never been a Kerry fan.

[bilmore]

Remember the BBC and Gilligan saying that Blair made up the 45 minute claim?

Remember the whole Kelly-suicide mess? Remember "Kelly was an intelligence insider"?

Now, the investigation concludes that the BBC published lies, failed to research the basic allegations, and was completely at fault, and that Blair et al. were blameless.

And, the BBC chairman resigns in disgrace.

(How come this kind of stuff gets page 47, after filling page 1 for weeks when the lies were being made?)

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
By the way, what did you do during the war in Vietnam?

Drugs.

[baltassoc]

Originally posted by bilmore
(How come this kind of stuff gets page 47, after filling page 1 for weeks when the lies were being made?)

It was pretty prominant this morning on NPR, but then you'd expect that, since it's all liberal, and so is Blair. I can only assume it was buried on page 47 of whatever paper you read because of the editor's conservative bias.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
1) Will Howard Dean now volunteer to use that immense war chest of his to help pay down the deficit?

That would be enabling Bush and the GOP, and Dean's a doctor.

2) Will Howard Dean stab Al Gore in the eye for his kiss-of-death endorsement?

After he stabs himself in the throat.

3) Will Hillary step in the race since we ALL know that no one really WANTS to vote for John Kerry?

I cannot believe that there is a single person in this country who would vote for Hillary but not for Kerry. OK, make that a "single, non-institutionalized person".

4) If not, how does Slick Willie slide back in prominence now that the Lil' [Rock] General is a bobtail nag?

What does that mean, anyway? I've got to work that into a brief.

5) Does moveon.org actually "move on" to another candidate?

As long as Bush is the presumptive GOP nominee, they'll keep attacking him.

6) Does Cheney [cough cough] all of sudden get ill, and Bush has to replace him on the ticket with the other Senator John Vietnam?

The day that Bush invites McCain to join his Administration as anything other than the Secretary for Veterans Affairs -- where W. could nickname him "Mac" and wave to him once every other month from the other end of White House auditorium where they hold cabinet meetings -- is the day that we all know that "Bush" has been replaced with a shoddy simulcrum by alien beings intent on turning our planet into a intergalactic truck stop and sending us all to work in the silicon mines on Bogdor.

7) Who will Atticus beat up next?

Just don't make eye contact -- that's my advice.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by bilmore
Drugs.

Would have been my choice if I were a few years older.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by bilmore
Remember the BBC and Gilligan saying that Blair made up the 45 minute claim?

Remember the whole Kelly-suicide mess? Remember "Kelly was an intelligence insider"?

Now, the investigation concludes that the BBC published lies, failed to research the basic allegations, and was completely at fault, and that Blair et al. were blameless.

And, the BBC chairman resigns in disgrace.

(How come this kind of stuff gets page 47, after filling page 1 for weeks when the lies were being made?)

Something I found interesting on NPR (not a regular listener, but it was on for election results last night and left it on this am) is that the report essentially concluded that the intelligence on the 45 minute claim was faulty and suspect, but both the intelligence folks and Blair were aware of this and decided to rely on it anyways so it wasn't a problem.

In other words, Blair would have been faulted for using bad information without the consent of British intelligence, but since B.I. was onboard, using the faulty intelligence was OK.

The other interesting piece was that they actually expected the BBC to have journalistic standards. THAT is amazing.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by baltassoc
It was pretty prominant this morning on NPR, but then you'd expect that, since it's all liberal, and so is Blair. I can only assume it was buried on page 47 of whatever paper you read because of the editor's conservative bias.

Good one. (However, NPR plays from morning to night here on my radio, and I haven't heard it at all.)

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by bilmore
Good one. (However, NPR plays from morning to night here on my radio, and I haven't heard it at all.)

That's because you've got it on MPR, ya dumbshit.

(One question answered.)