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05-19-2004, 05:47 PM
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silver plated, underrated
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No Release of Oil Reserves
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Originally posted by bilmore
I have no cite, but I am remembering Kerry calling for release of reserves into market, along with the halt to replenishment. Am I incorrect on this?
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I don't know. I've been in a news blackout for the last few days. The Yahoo article that club posted attrributed the sale proposal to the nebulous unnamed democrats that always cause such consternation in articles like these. But perhaps this is the press's save-Kerry-from-his-own-stupidity bias showing.
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(Besides, as we get closer to the war with SA, we're going to need those reserves topped up.)
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War with SA? I guess I picked the wrong week for a news blackout.
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05-19-2004, 05:49 PM
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#77
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Registered User
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Intelligenter than you!
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Not to pick on a conservative for having a low IQ or anything, but the fact that Dems live in cities and Republicans live in the boondocks does not make the Dems "isolated."
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And lets see here:
Boondocks = less exposure to minorities, which means fear of minorities, which = REPUBLICANS!
Boondocks = less enlightenment via human interaction, which means turning to the bible for answers, which means hatred and fear of all change = REPUBLICANS!
Boondocks = no public transportation, which means giant SUVs, which means pollution/dependancy on oil = REPUBLICANS!
You guys are brilliant.
Shit, we cityfolk should up and leave anti-Atlas Shrugged-style and let you boonies roll around in your own shit!
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05-19-2004, 05:50 PM
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Intelligenter than you!
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
sig line again
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Too long. Pick something by Eliede or Otto that's pithier.
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05-19-2004, 05:52 PM
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#79
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Too Lazy to Google
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Kristol/Hume/Etc.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
You are, once again, the Queen of the Literal.
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05-19-2004, 05:53 PM
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Intelligenter than you!
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
And lets see here:
Boondocks = less exposure to minorities, which means fear of minorities, which = REPUBLICANS!
Boondocks = less enlightenment via human interaction, which means turning to the bible for answers, which means hatred and fear of all change = REPUBLICANS!
Boondocks = no public transportation, which means giant SUVs, which means pollution/dependancy on oil = REPUBLICANS!
You guys are brilliant.
Shit, we cityfolk should up and leave anti-Atlas Shrugged-style and let you boonies roll around in your own shit!
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I live in the second wealthiest county in the country, and one of the best educated. It went for Bush pretty strong. my town was 70% for Gore though.
But your arrogence is typical, and one of the reasons why your party is doomed. Save your campaign buttons; they'll be worth lquite a bit in 20 years. "Daddy what's a Democrat?"
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05-19-2004, 05:53 PM
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Too Good For Post Numbers
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Intelligenter than you!
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Shit, we cityfolk should up and leave anti-Atlas Shrugged-style and let you boonies roll around in your own shit!
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It's heartening to see that, aside from our differences, we do share common goals.
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05-19-2004, 05:54 PM
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Too Lazy to Google
Join Date: Nov 2003
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a new thread!
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I agree. I recommend that the slur be shortened to "Slamis" to sound more slurlike. It's also easier to spell than "camel schtuppers."
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POTD
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05-19-2004, 05:57 PM
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Intelligenter than you!
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I live in the second wealthiest county in the country, and one of the best educated. It went for Bush pretty strong. my town was 70% for Gore though.
But your arrogence is typical, and one of the reasons why your party is doomed. Save your campaign buttons; they'll be worth lquite a bit in 20 years. "Daddy what's a Democrat?"
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Christ. It wasn't a real rant. I was expecting a mirror image comeback on democrats. Sheesh. You just took the fun out of it.
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05-19-2004, 05:58 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Intelligenter than you!
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Christ. It wasn't a real rant. I was expecting a mirror image comeback on democrats. Sheesh. You just took the fun out of it.
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I have children. Protecting this country from your likes isn't always fun. It is however, something I owe my kids.
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05-19-2004, 05:59 PM
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Intelligenter than you!
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I have children. Protecting this country from your likes isn't always fun. It is however, something I owe my kids.
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True. I could kick your kids' asses.
All over Gross Pointe (oops couldn't be based on your stats).
Or Birmingham.
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05-19-2004, 06:03 PM
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Intelligenter than you!
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I live in the second wealthiest county in the country, and one of the best educated. It went for Bush pretty strong. my town was 70% for Gore though.
But your arrogence is typical, and one of the reasons why your party is doomed. Save your campaign buttons; they'll be worth lquite a bit in 20 years. "Daddy what's a Democrat?"
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Maybe your town skews the overall education level of the county upwards. Or do you live in the town that houses the servants of the rest of the people in your county?
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05-19-2004, 06:07 PM
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Too Lazy to Google
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Intelligenter than you!
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Exactly. Most of what gore won was the inner cities, where IQ is on average low, either because of cultural bias in the test, or because you guys have fucked up on social policy. the blue/red imbalance is bad at a state level- look at it on county level and you'll see just how isolated you really are.
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Or because IQ tests aren't a good measure of intelligence. Or because, well, because there are racial disparities in intelligence levels.
Intelligence is something that is profoundly affected by prenatal/perinatal and early childhood conditions, as well as nutrional status in the early years of life. Babies born to mothers who don't get good prenatal care on average score lower on IQ tests. I doubt this is a cultural bias, but rather a very real organic phenomena - these people's brains aren't as good as they could have been if their mother had gotten better prenatal care. I think it is fair to say that blacks don't get the same quality and quantity of prenatal care as whites on average in this society.
Same is true of the perinatal/infancy period, in particular, if the baby is breast fed. Fewer blacks breast feed than whites.
Same is true of the nutritional status in the early years of life. On average, malnutrition in the US is more prevalent in black children than in white children in the US.
So there are legitimate medical explanations for why it could be that it isn't cultural bias that causes the racial disparity in IQ test scores. It could be that on average, blacks aren't as intelligent as whites in the US because of environmental factors that affect their developing brains in utero and early in life. But no one is allowed to discuss that without being called a racist in this society.
The head start programs and other interventions can only help a person reach their biologically determined maximum intelligence. If their brain developed under sub-optimal environmental conditions in utero or throughout the early years of life, their maximum achievable intelligence will be reduced from what it would have been had their environmental conditions been optimal. Once that occurs, it cannot be fixed by education or otherwise.
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05-19-2004, 06:07 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Intelligenter than you!
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
True. I could kick your kids' asses.
All over Gross Pointe (oops couldn't be based on your stats).
Or Birmingham.
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Sorry. birmingham went for bush (I think). Grosse Pointe is Wayne County.
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05-19-2004, 06:09 PM
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Intelligenter than you!
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Sorry. birmingham went for bush (I think). Grosse Pointe is Wayne County.
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No Michigan counties are in the Top 10:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...-wyoming_x.htm
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05-19-2004, 06:11 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Intelligenter than you!
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Originally posted by Not Me
Or because IQ tests aren't a good measure of intelligence. Or because, well, because there are racial disparities in intelligence levels.
Intelligence is something that is profoundly affected by prenatal and perinatal conditions, as well as nutrional status in the early years of life. Babies born to mothers who don't get good prenatal care on average score lower on IQ tests. I doubt this is a cultural bias, but rather a very real organic phenomena - these people's brains aren't as good as they could have been if their mother had gotten better prenatal care. I think it is fair to say that blacks don't get the same quality and quantity of prenatal care as whites on average in this society.
Same is true of the perinatal/infancy period, in particular, if the baby is breast fed. Fewer blacks breast feed than whites.
Same is true of the nutritional status in the early years of life. On average, malnutrition in the US is more prevalent in black children than in white children in the US.
So there are legitimate medical explanations for why it could be that it isn't cultural bias that causes the racial disparity in IQ test scores. It could be that on average, blacks aren't as intelligent as whites because of environmental factors that affect their developing brains in utero and early in life. But no one is allowed to discuss that without being called a racist in this society.
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The idea that there is something called intelligence that can be measured in this way is a fallacy of reification.
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