Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
What does married life have to do with kids?

There are some people out there who feel that if you don't plan to have kids that there's not much point in getting married, what with familiarity breeding contempt, monogamy being unnatural and oppressive, more than half of marriages ending in divorce, and according to some surveys a majority of marriages (as high as 80% which seems a little crazy) being marked by at least one instance of infidelity by at least one partner.

I'm not saying that I feel that way.

[MisterEbola]

Originally posted by spookyfish
Um, those are quadruplets, buddy.

s(oh, you were talking about the girls, not the, um, robust puppies)f

Depends on how good the plastic surgeon was.

[ThrashersFan]

I rented the movie "They" last night and if you like thought-provoking type scary movies it is pretty good.

The premise is that the monsters that scare us at night as children are actually marking us and come back to get us as adults.

No gore, but I just went through about 5 or 6 that were full of good gore so it was nice to sit down to one that just kinda scared ya without being bloody. Anyway, for people who liked non-gore horrors like The Ring or even FearDotCom this one plays well.:thumbsup:

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
So is telling my son to stop putting the cat in the toilet but for fuck's sake there have to be some boundaries.

You are supposed to fun-suck with your son, you are his parent. Two guys toking up at a car race are not your responsibility in any way. You are the one who brought up fun-sucking by calling TM one. I just think that it was funny that you did so while conveying a story about how you and hubby sucked the fun out of the life of a couple of stoners. Context.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
What does married life have to do with kids?

What are you, European?

I'm with str8 that if a kid can't be controlled (which is likely always) they should not be put in situations where their presence annoys or offends others.

Or maybe the people who are so offended or annoyed by the presence of children should confine themselves to places they're unlikely to be found. Like first class. Or Europe.

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
You are supposed to fun-suck with your son, you are his parent. Two guys toking up at a car race are not your responsibility in any way. You are the one who brought up fun-sucking by calling TM one. I just think that it was funny that you did so while conveying a story about how you and hubby sucked the fun out of the life of a couple of stoners. Context.

aw geez, I give up. :flag:

Fine, I fun sucked. But I did it for someone else's benefit, not mine which I think means that I should get some sort of pass or something. I was trying to protect the little kid. I called TM a fun-sucker because I felt that he was shitting on me for telling my tale with some flair rather than straight-forward. Being directed at me for his own benefit seemed like unwarranted fun-sucking to me. In certain instances I will risk being called a fun-sucker in order to protect an innocent -- fucking sue me.

[Jack Manfred]

Originally posted by TexLex
Chatty Cathy was a doll - specifically the doll that Cindy Brady lost. It turned out that Tiger the dog had it all along. You pull a string in its back and it would talk, the doll, not Tiger.

Wrong. Cindy Brady lost her Kitty Carryall doll.

Too many reruns after school.

edited to apologize for not reading far enough ahead. I didn't need to google either, except to check for the spelling. Apparently, at least one rocker chick goes by the name Kitty Carryall. Eve's Plum was a better band name, imo.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
In certain instances I will risk being called a fun-sucker in order to protect an innocent -- fucking sue me.

"I got a big ol' blunt
I'm lampin' on my front porch
about to put a torch to it
then Coco said don't do it
please don't hit that shit in front of my little four year old son
she sent him inside the house meanwhile my Sheri steadily rolled one
[what are you doing (daddy)?]
after the other
then another
'cause I'm rollin' in the dough
so we rolled in the indoe
as if the kid didn't know
he's lookin' through the windoew yo while we tryin' to hide it
to make a boy grow to be ignorant and misguided
about the bud
now I have to play the part of the advisor
because the bud is just the tasty tantalizer
the bud not the beer 'cause the bud makes me wiser
[figaro]
so I said come're little man
[whatcha want old man]
and with his little hand
he grabbed the pipe
a lesson in buddah blessin'
not too young
just right
so he started blazin'
it was amazin'
my lungs are black and shriveled up like a raisin
but who am I to deny the kid a try
at nature's little way of sayin' hi?
[thank you old man]"

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Or maybe the people who are so offended or annoyed by the presence of children should confine themselves to places they're unlikely to be found. Like first class. Or Europe.

I've tried sticking to only bars and orgies, but I have to travel to those places somehow and the little buggers are everywhere... They're like mosquitos.

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
There are some people out there who feel that if you don't plan to have kids that there's not much point in getting married, what with familiarity breeding contempt, monogamy being unnatural and oppressive, more than half of marriages ending in divorce, and according to some surveys a majority of marriages (as high as 80% which seems a little crazy) being marked by at least one instance of infidelity by at least one partner.

I'm not saying that I feel that way.

People get married for a zillion different reasons - why they do it is not for anyone to judge. I certainly hope Atticus is not one of those "some people" you are referring to because I don't think he is that stupid. However, sometimes when he goes on with that cloying "married life = kids" dreck I wonder.

Edited to note that at this moment due to a court decision of yesterday, there are thousands of gay couples applying for marriage licenses in Canada. I do not think that having kids, the unnatural state of monogamy, divorce or contempt are on their minds.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
What are you, European?



Or maybe the people who are so offended or annoyed by the presence of children should confine themselves to places they're unlikely to be found. Like first class. Or Europe.

If Europe is equivalent to first class, then I'm in...

Actually, most Europeans possess the etiquette that most people here complain about everyone lacking...

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Or maybe the people who are so offended or annoyed by the presence of children should confine themselves to places they're unlikely to be found. Like first class. Or Europe.

Oh, for shame, people. Do I need to pull Rodney King out from deep within the drawer?

You are both right. Parents should be aware of where they are bringing their young children, and should make an effort to prevent them from disturbing other people.

Unfortunately, "make an effort" doesn't always mean that a parent is successful. Like everyone else who has posted today, I have had a 3-14 year old kick the back of my seat on an airplane. Unlike everyone else, I have *NEVER* felt like the parent wasn't doing their best to prevent it. I have had mothers apologize to me, fathers threaten little Billy with a painful death if he did it again, and even had a kid tell me that he didn't mean to kick me when he reached for a magazine in his backpack.

I get more pissed about adults who rush onto the plane to use the overhead compartment above my seat so that they don't have to check the 800 pound garment bag on wheels that they bought from SkyMall magazine. Bastards.

[Aloha Mr. Learned Hand]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
aw geez, I give up. :flag:

Fine, I fun sucked. But I did it for someone else's benefit, not mine which I think means that I should get some sort of pass or something. I was trying to protect the little kid. I called TM a fun-sucker because I felt that he was shitting on me for telling my tale with some flair rather than straight-forward. Being directed at me for his own benefit seemed like unwarranted fun-sucking to me. In certain instances I will risk being called a fun-sucker in order to protect an innocent -- fucking sue me.

Since we're piling on...

And have that avatar of yours tested for MonkeyPox will ya?? We Chicagoans are a little sensitive about that right now...

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by Not Bob
Like everyone else who has posted today, I have had a 3-14 year old kick the back of my seat on an airplane. Unlike everyone else, I have *NEVER* felt like the parent wasn't doing their best to prevent it. I have had mothers apologize to me, fathers threaten little Billy with a painful death if he did it again, and even had a kid tell me that he didn't mean to kick me when he reached for a magazine in his backpack.

I've never had a bad plane-kid experience either - that is, kids have kicked my seat and the parent apologizes and it stops. I've flown a ton and actually never had a bad passenger experience at all. Most people next to me just read their books/magazines and that's it. All your experiences are kind of making me feel like I live in a parallel universe.

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
People get married for a zillion different reasons - why they do it is not for anyone to judge. I certainly hope Atticus is not one of those "some people" you are referring to because I don't think he is that stupid. However, sometimes when he goes on with that cloying "married life = kids" dreck I wonder.

Edited to note that at this moment due to a court decision of yesterday, there are thousands of gay couples applying for marriage licenses in Canada. I do not think that having kids, the unnatural state of monogamy, divorce or contempt are on their minds.

What with many companies offering benefits to "significant others" now or else both people working and eligible for their own benefits it seems like the only reason to get married without children is the joint tenancy with right of survivorship rules some states have for homes. That, and I guess the passing of certain other property without taxation. Short of that, you can end up getting screwed on taxes. If you own a home you aren't likely taking ths standard deduction so the governments effort to do away with the marriage penalty is no benefit. I earn a lot more than my hubby but then he gets sucked into my tax bracket when we file (I tried the married filing separate thing but got no relief either). What the government should do is have one form and let each person file as an individual with the same rates whether you are married or single and you don't get sucked into your spouse's tax bracket. But for that marriage certificate, I could file alone with all of the itemized deductions and hubby could file alone with a standard deduction so why should we be penalized for taking the vows?

edited to note that I am no expert on estates and trusts and such but I vaguely recall there being a benefit to being married in that regard. It does not seem, however, that there are any other "legal" benefits over shacking up together.