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06-22-2005, 06:47 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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circling. Fully.
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Originally posted by Iron Steve
This is truly a slippery slope. If this succeeds I can see it now, the next one will be the Koran Desecration Amendment:
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Indeed, there's a real danger that the GOP-controlled Congress will pass that next, preventing the brave and hard-working men and women of our armed forces from doing everything in their power to thwart the next terrorist attack on our homeland.
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06-22-2005, 06:48 PM
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#917
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
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flag-burning
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Originally posted by Iron Steve
Hey! Lo-berry said Shifter was the stupidest. Stand down Wonk!
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Dumbest. Not stupidest, dumbest.
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"More than two decades later, it is hard to imagine the Revolutionary War coming out any other way."
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06-22-2005, 06:48 PM
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#918
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
Join Date: Mar 2003
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flag-burning
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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I think when you posted, you failed to realize that the poster to whom you replied was not being serious or literal about the substantive content of his or her post, and by treating the post seriously, you have made yourself to appear the fool.
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I was misinformed.
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Send in the evil clowns.
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06-22-2005, 06:50 PM
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#919
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
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flag-burning
Quote:
Originally posted by Iron Steve
Hey! Lo-berry said Shifter was the stupidest. Stand down Wonk!
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Never speak out against the family, Fredo.
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Send in the evil clowns.
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06-22-2005, 06:51 PM
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#920
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Random Syndicate (admin)
Join Date: Mar 2003
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flag-burning
Quote:
Originally posted by Iron Steve
Hey! Lo-berry said Shifter was the stupidest. Stand down Wonk!
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No slippery slope of stupidity in lo-berry's world?
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06-22-2005, 06:52 PM
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Strong!
Join Date: Jun 2005
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circling. Fully.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Indeed, there's a real danger that the GOP-controlled Congress will pass that next, preventing the brave and hard-working men and women of our armed forces from doing everything in their power to thwart the next terrorist attack on our homeland.
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Word.
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.....I am a cold, cruel and hard socker. You must not be sensitive when it comes to me or my socks.
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06-22-2005, 06:53 PM
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#922
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Strong!
Join Date: Jun 2005
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flag-burning
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Dumbest. Not stupidest, dumbest.
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I was retired, what do I know.
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06-22-2005, 06:55 PM
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#923
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Strong!
Join Date: Jun 2005
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flag-burning
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Originally posted by taxwonk
Never speak out against the family, Fredo.
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How do you say "banana daiquiri" (en espanol)?
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06-22-2005, 06:56 PM
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#924
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pop goes the chupacabra
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flag-burning
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
eta, in response to Burger:
I thought Atrios was pretty clear. He's not complaining about a potential conflict between the Constitution and the U.S. Code. He's pointing out that the purpose of the amendment is not to punish certain actions (e.g., burning), but to punish certain ideas (e.g., burning a flag in protest against the government, as opposed to burning it pursuant to the code).
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I apparently misunderstood that he was making an interesting point. Of course it goes to punishing ideas, or at least statutes that would punish ideas. That's a novel take on it?
There's nothing facially objectionable about the amendment itself, I suppose. The problem comes when Congress passes another flag desecration law, which will be in immediate tension with the first amendment. Which trumps?
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06-22-2005, 07:00 PM
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#925
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 12,057
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flag-burning
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I apparently misunderstood that he was making an interesting point. Of course it goes to punishing ideas, or at least statutes that would punish ideas. That's a novel take on it?
There's nothing facially objectionable about the amendment itself, I suppose. The problem comes when Congress passes another flag desecration law, which will be in immediate tension with the first amendment. Which trumps?
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I wondered this myself when I saw a Rob Courdry bit on The Daily Show where he "accidentally" lit a little American flag on fire with a sparkler.
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06-22-2005, 07:07 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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flag-burning
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
That's a novel take on it?
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I thought it pleasantly succinct.
And I figured the Daily Show bit was filmed in Canada. Congress is just sending more jobs overseas.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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06-22-2005, 07:07 PM
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#927
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Random Syndicate (admin)
Join Date: Mar 2003
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flag-burning
Quote:
Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I apparently misunderstood that he was making an interesting point. Of course it goes to punishing ideas, or at least statutes that would punish ideas. That's a novel take on it?
There's nothing facially objectionable about the amendment itself, I suppose. The problem comes when Congress passes another flag desecration law, which will be in immediate tension with the first amendment. Which trumps?
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Dunno, but apparently the proponents are communing with the dead:
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“Ask the men and women who stood on top of the (World) Trade Center," said Rep. Randy (Duke) Cunningham, R-Calif. "Ask them and they will tell you: pass this amendment."
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Nice to know that 9/11 can still be used for cheap political points.
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06-22-2005, 07:10 PM
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 12,057
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flag-burning
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Dunno, but apparently the proponents are communing with the dead:
Nice to know that 9/11 can still be used for cheap political points.
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They probably advised him on his recent real estate deals as well.
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"More than two decades later, it is hard to imagine the Revolutionary War coming out any other way."
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06-22-2005, 07:11 PM
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#929
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pop goes the chupacabra
Posts: 18,532
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flag-burning
Quote:
Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
And I figured the Daily Show bit was filmed in Canada. Congress is just sending more jobs overseas.
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Is he an american citizen?
[ eta: Yes. Samantha Bee is Canadian, though. -- t.s.]
Last edited by Tyrone Slothrop; 06-22-2005 at 07:17 PM..
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06-22-2005, 07:12 PM
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#930
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
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flag-burning
Quote:
Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Dunno, but apparently the proponents are communing with the dead:
Nice to know that 9/11 can still be used for cheap political points.
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Didn't the guy standing on top "surf" down on the debris?
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