Keeping it civil instead of returning to our dark ways

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Hi Dad!

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I did just okay in con Law, but wasn't Bush v Gore about stopping judicial activism. Basically some state judges were saying the state's procedures for counting votes don't matter.

No. Bush v. Gore was about one activist group trumping another. The supremes stomped on states' rights. They told the FL Court how its state election laws would be administered.

But they'll distinguish it from Roe with some absurd argument.

I'll at least concede that Roe was activism. You'll never hear any of the hard righters concede the same on Bush v. Gore.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Hey, Sweetie! My friend Bill would like to meet you . . .

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Not Me
You are ignorant of the research in this area if you think we are anywhere close to finding treatments using embryonic stem cells.

Exactly. So we should stop now.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by baltassoc
That's an interesting group of "conservatives" you found there, Hank. I wouldn't have picked any of them to be big Bush-backers. Well, except the guy in the Sansabelt slacks and the scowl.

I mean, no offense, but most conservatives I know just aren't that hot. Most Dems I know aren't that hot either, but there's a greater likelihood. I mean, just look at the women on this board: we've got RT, E/O and Fringy, you've got a guy in DC pretending to be a woman in SF. WTF?

I'm actually a woman. But with A-cups

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Saturday Zogby- Kerry up 1
Sunday Zogby- tied
Today Zogby- Bush up 1

Zogby's current prediction and breakdown available on his website:

Kerry 264
Bush 247
Florida (27) -- Tied.

Jeezus. We'll see.

S_A_M

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Anyone who is "confused" on any of Kerry's positions is confused because they want to seem confused.

I have nothing to add, but this needs to be said as many times as possible. Its one of the few unassailable facts thats come to light in this campaign, and its why you see every bush die hard on this board dance around the facts every time they're faced with them.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by viet_mom

Caption Please?

"Nice hair."

"Nice tie."

[ilikenewsocks]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
"Nice hair."

"Nice tie."

no caption, but is that Lynndie England in that picture?

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by andViolins
I spend all day yesterday posting about Ohio. I am the Ohio mod. And you say have fun spooky????????? Goddamit I feel like Eric Fingerhut! I'm going for a walk around Ohio now. See y'all in about 12 weeks.

aV

Have fun, aV!

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Zogby's current prediction and breakdown available on his website:

Kerry 264
Bush 247
Florida (27) -- Tied.

Jeezus. We'll see.

S_A_M

Interesting state calls, as Zogby shows their predicted margins. They include North Carolina among battleground states with Bush just eking out a victory - was this one winnable for Kerry? They don't include Virginia, which in polls has generally been a few points better for Kerry than North Carolina.

But they show Kerry with generally wider margins in his battleground victories than Bush has in his, and states like Arkansas, Missouri and Tennessee as being very close. I know that the Arkansas and Arizona D's keep saying they could upset, but the state by state calls are still surprising to me.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Au contraire. John Edwards told me that - if Kerry was President -Chris Reeve would walk.

I know this is a joke, but to the extent that it misrepresents Edwards' comments out of conttext, it highlights one of the main reasons I won't be voting GOP this time around.

The GOP refuses to debate anything honestly. Almost all of its attack ads this year have been mischaracterizations of Kerry comments. How can I vote for a party which so transparently misrepresents everything its opponent says and addresses hard issue questions with nothin but broad platitudes and fear mongering? There's a core intellectual dishonesty there which is frightening. Either the GOP thinks we're all too stupid to spots its bullshit, or its so stupid it doesn't know how transparent its shtick is. Either way, thats not a party I want in charge.

The GOP had a golden opportunity to nail Kerry on his lack of a plan in Iraq, but instead, it decided to cheaply twist his comments and paint him as an out of touch snob. Thats not a presidential political debate - thats an 8th grade class president campaign debate.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I know this is a joke, but to the extent that it misrepresents Edwards' comments out of conttext, it highlights one of the main reasons I won't be voting GOP this time around.

The GOP refuses to debate anything honestly. Almost all of its attack ads this year have been mischaracterizations of Kerry comments. How can I vote for a party which so transparently misrepresents everything its opponent says and addresses hard issue questions with nothin but broad platitudes and fear mongering? There's a core intellectual dishonesty there which is frightening. Either the GOP thinks we're all too stupid to spots its bullshit, or its so stupid it doesn't know how transparent its shtick is. Either way, thats not a party I want in charge.

The GOP had a golden opportunity to nail Kerry on his lack of a plan in Iraq, but instead, it decided to cheaply twist his comments and paint him as an out of touch snob. Thats not a presidential political debate - thats an 8th grade class president campaign debate.

We just didn't believe that you could accomplish your Milk Money For Everclear campaign pledge. Get over it already.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
The GOP had a golden opportunity to nail Kerry on his lack of a plan in Iraq, but instead, it decided to cheaply twist his comments and paint him as an out of touch snob. Thats not a presidential political debate - thats an 8th grade class president campaign debate.

I think the Bush campaign wanted to avoid the subject of Iraq and planning.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Not Me
Actually, Dems are more likely to be home on both weekends and weekdays. The elderly, the disabled, welfare moms sitting around getting obese, out of work union members are all more likely to be home weekdays and weekends and they are more likely to be Dems.

When do Repubs wash all the cars sitting on cinderblocks in their yards?