A disgusting vat of filth that no self-respecting intelligent person would wade into.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
The "ordinary" course has been to have continuing resolutions in recent years.

ETA: Read up

It's rare not to have them.

You didn't answer my question, nor does that CRS report. I don't see the suggestion there that it has been common to fund the government through continuing resolutions from October through the following January or February. (Maybe it is.)

[Tyrone Slothrop]

A glimpse of the coming era of bipartisanship:

• At a private reception held at the White House with newly elected lawmakers shortly after the election, Bush asked Webb how his son, a Marine lance corporal serving in Iraq, was doing.
  
  Webb responded that he really wanted to see his son brought back home, said a person who heard about the exchange from Webb.
  
  “I didn’t ask you that, I asked how he’s doing,” Bush retorted, according to the source.
  
  Webb confessed that he was so angered by this that he was tempted to slug the commander-in-chief, reported the source, but of course didn’t. It’s safe to say, however, that Bush and Webb won’t be taking any overseas trips together anytime soon.

The Hill, via TPM.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
A glimpse of the coming era of bipartisanship:

• At a private reception held at the White House with newly elected lawmakers shortly after the election, Bush asked Webb how his son, a Marine lance corporal serving in Iraq, was doing.
  
  Webb responded that he really wanted to see his son brought back home, said a person who heard about the exchange from Webb.
  
  “I didn’t ask you that, I asked how he’s doing,” Bush retorted, according to the source.
  
  Webb confessed that he was so angered by this that he was tempted to slug the commander-in-chief, reported the source, but of course didn’t. It’s safe to say, however, that Bush and Webb won’t be taking any overseas trips together anytime soon.

The Hill, via TPM.

who is Webb? I'm fairly sure someone in Bush's shape could kick the ass' of most of Congress. let him punch next time.

Did you post this to show that bush is fucked up? does anyone here who has an oz. of impartiality not get how f'ed up it is that Ty is in charge?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
who is Webb?

Webb is the former Marine and DoD official in the Reagan Administration who beat George Allen to win Virginia's Senate seat.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Webb is the former Marine and DoD official in the Reagan Administration who beat George Allen to win Virginia's Senate seat.

the porn writer? Bush would kick his ass. If he is mad his kid is in Iraq, why isn't he mad at his kid? Publicity stunt? how does a stroy like that not harm our position there? you posted that like you think Webb had the reasoned response.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
the porn writer? Bush would kick his ass. If he is mad his kid is in Iraq, why isn't he mad at his kid? Publicity stunt? how does a stroy like that not harm our position there? you posted that like you think Webb had the reasoned response.

You judge his fighting abilities by his writing? If nothing else, this gives us an important glimpse into your extended game of footsie with Flower.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
You didn't answer my question, nor does that CRS report. I don't see the suggestion there that it has been common to fund the government through continuing resolutions from October through the following January or February. (Maybe it is.)

Based on personal, albeit anecdotal, observation, it is. Sometimes the budget bills get done in October or November, sometimes not until January or February.

It is particularly common when there is an election that if they don't get done before the election, they are left for the newly elected. I'm fairly confident that Kerry would have been right pissed, had he won, if the outgoing republicans had passed a budget during what would have been a lame duck session.

ETA: Are there democrats who, post-election, are urging that the Rs pass the budget bills now, rather than leave it to the incoming Ds? And are putting their money where their mouth is by dropping objections and objectionable budget items to allow that to happen?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Based on personal, albeit anecdotal, observation, it is. Sometimes the budget bills get done in October or November, sometimes not until January or February.

It is particularly common when there is an election that if they don't get done before the election, they are left for the newly elected. I'm fairly confident that Kerry would have been right pissed, had he won, if the outgoing republicans had passed a budget during what would have been a lame duck session.

ETA: Are there democrats who, post-election, are urging that the Rs pass the budget bills now, rather than leave it to the incoming Ds? And are putting their money where their mouth is by dropping objections and objectionable budget items to allow that to happen?

The source I read (Stan Collendar in the National Journal, if I didn't say that before) suggested that it was atypical for the appropriations bills to be punted in this way, and suggested that it would start the next Congress is a particularly contentious way. Perhaps he's wrong on both counts, and it's atypical. I didn't read any Democrats complaining about it.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
the porn writer? Bush would kick his ass. If he is mad his kid is in Iraq, why isn't he mad at his kid? Publicity stunt? how does a stroy like that not harm our position there? you posted that like you think Webb had the reasoned response.

Not a single sentence here makes any sense, except maybe the last. Keep up the good work.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
who is Webb? I'm fairly sure someone in Bush's shape could kick the ass' of most of Congress. let him punch next time.

Did you post this to show that bush is fucked up? does anyone here who has an oz. of impartiality not get how f'ed up it is that Ty is in charge?

Jim Webb seems fairly tough himself, but I don't think that's the point.

I also don't think Ty posted that to make Bush look bad -- but as a comment on likely upcoming fireworks. I don't understand your reaction.

That account omits the next part of the conversation, where Webb replied "That's between me and my son, Mr. President." The story makes Webb look like a rude bastard, not Bush.

On this Board, unlike our nation, it doesn't really matter much who is "in charge."

S_A_M

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I also don't think Ty posted that to make Bush look bad -- but as a comment on likely upcoming fireworks. I don't understand your reaction.

That account omits the next part of the conversation, where Webb replied "That's between me and my son, Mr. President." The story makes Webb look like a rude bastard, not Bush.

I thought Bush's response ("I didn't ask you that") made him sound like a jackass.

The entire article is here:

• President Bush has pledged to work with the new Democratic majorities in Congress, but he has already gotten off on the wrong foot with Jim Webb, whose surprise victory over Sen. George Allen (R-Va.) tipped the Senate to the Democrats.
  
  Webb, a decorated former Marine officer, hammered Allen and Bush over the unpopular war in Iraq while wearing his son’s old combat boots on the campaign trail. It seems the president may have some lingering resentment.
  
  At a private reception held at the White House with newly elected lawmakers shortly after the election, Bush asked Webb how his son, a Marine lance corporal serving in Iraq, was doing.
  
  Webb responded that he really wanted to see his son brought back home, said a person who heard about the exchange from Webb.
  
  “I didn’t ask you that, I asked how he’s doing,” Bush retorted, according to the source.
  
  Webb confessed that he was so angered by this that he was tempted to slug the commander-in-chief, reported the source, but of course didn’t. It’s safe to say, however, that Bush and Webb won’t be taking any overseas trips together anytime soon.
  
  “Jim did have a conversation with Bush at that dinner,” said Webb’s spokeswoman Kristian Denny Todd. “Basically, he asked about Jim’s son, Jim expressed the fact that he wanted to have him home.” Todd did not want to escalate matters by commenting on Bush’s response, saying, “It was a private conversation.”
  
  A White House spokeswoman declined to give Bush’s version of the conversation.

I don't see the Webb retort ("between me and my son") in there, but perhaps you get the super-insider version of the paper or something.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I thought Bush's response ("I didn't ask you that") made him sound like a jackass.

The entire article is here:

• President Bush has pledged to work with the new Democratic majorities in Congress, but he has already gotten off on the wrong foot with Jim Webb, whose surprise victory over Sen. George Allen (R-Va.) tipped the Senate to the Democrats.
  
  Webb, a decorated former Marine officer, hammered Allen and Bush over the unpopular war in Iraq while wearing his son’s old combat boots on the campaign trail. It seems the president may have some lingering resentment.
  
  At a private reception held at the White House with newly elected lawmakers shortly after the election, Bush asked Webb how his son, a Marine lance corporal serving in Iraq, was doing.
  
  Webb responded that he really wanted to see his son brought back home, said a person who heard about the exchange from Webb.
  
  “I didn’t ask you that, I asked how he’s doing,” Bush retorted, according to the source.
  
  Webb confessed that he was so angered by this that he was tempted to slug the commander-in-chief, reported the source, but of course didn’t. It’s safe to say, however, that Bush and Webb won’t be taking any overseas trips together anytime soon.
  
  “Jim did have a conversation with Bush at that dinner,” said Webb’s spokeswoman Kristian Denny Todd. “Basically, he asked about Jim’s son, Jim expressed the fact that he wanted to have him home.” Todd did not want to escalate matters by commenting on Bush’s response, saying, “It was a private conversation.”
  
  A White House spokeswoman declined to give Bush’s version of the conversation.

I don't see the Webb retort ("between me and my son") in there, but perhaps you get the super-insider version of the paper or something.

whereas Webb was the cool mature one, only confessing his internal feelings to a newspaper.

how do you think Webb would do in Mexico's congress?

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I thought Bush's response ("I didn't ask you that") made him sound like a jackass.

* * *

I don't see the Webb retort ("between me and my son") in there, but perhaps you get the super-insider version of the paper or something.

I read the story in the Washington Post, not The Hill. I wasn't accusing you of selective editing. (The Post story didn't have the part about Webb wanting to slug him.)

I guess I was wrong about your motive for posting it. Lots of conversational meaning depends on things such as tone and body language that we can't judge here. Still, I don't think Bush's response (as written) makes him look bad, given that he got a combative political response to a personal overture at a reception.

Webb has certainly made it very clear that he is not interested in being friendly, which is his right. (Didn't even go through the reception line or get a picture with Bush.) Sort of fits with his non-politician, non-diplomatic persona.

I guess I'm too polite for politics. One of my basic rules is that, when you're at a party, you don't say "FU" to the host.

S_A_M

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Webb has certainly made it very clear that he is not interested in being friendly, which is his right.

why did he go to the reception then? snacks?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
One of my basic rules is that, when you're at a party, you don't say "FU" to the host.

When you're hosting a party, you don't say "FU" to the guests. But I'm not up on my Beltway protocol -- maybe Webb's refusal to wait in the receiving line was a provocation.

I have a hard time imagining a way of saying what Bush said that doesn't leave him sounding like a jackass, but maybe I have a limited imagination.