Fashion Board 6-9-04 to 7-13-04

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
This morning there was a belligerent homeless guy in Starbucks, and the two-thirds of the workforce was trying to persuade him to leave. Even after he left, his aroma lingered. What a crappy part of the job that would be.

We don't have stinky people here. Maybe you should relocate.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
We don't have stinky people here. Maybe you should relocate.

apparently the sweatiest city in the country is El Paso. this according to cnn today. thankfully it is not often that the wind is high enough here to smell the people from El Paso.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
apparently the sweatiest city in the country is El Paso. this according to cnn today. thankfully it is not often that the wind is high enough here to smell the people from El Paso.

We in El Paso do not have stinky sweat. We have sweet sweat.

And it wasn't a fucking frappuchino.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by patentparanyc
That was the barista's stupidity, Starbucks spec does not call for whipped cream on a latte. But a little deductive reasoning on his part, if you're ordering NON FAT, why would you want whip? [read: fat] hello.

People who order non-fat milk in their espresso drinks aren't necessarily doing it out of concern for fat intake. Non-fat milk creates a higher-volume, more stabile foam when steam-frothed. Of course, the stability of your foam is less a concern for a latte than a cappuccino, and the use of whipped cream remains unpardonable. I suggest Fringey patronize a different coffee monopoly forthwith.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
So, I go down to Starbucks, and I order a grande nonfat latte. Not a difficult order. I hear the chippie I'm paying say to the barristo, "grande nonfat latte" like he couldn't hear it when I said it, since really no one else is there, it was quite slow, being kinda close to lunch and all.

Then I walk over and watch as the barristo guy puts whipped cream on top of a grande hot drink. He says, what did you order? And I say, grande nonfat latte. He nods, and puts the drink that involves whipped cream on the counter, and then walks over to chat with someone. Then he looks at me and says, that's your drink. And I said, no it's not, I ordered a latte, and that has whipped cream. And he says, did you request no whip? And I say, what? There is no whip in a latte. That's not a latte thing. And then he scraped off the whipped cream, and I must have looked irritated, because he offered to remake it, but I was in a hurry so I said no, it's fine, really, I don't care, I need to go, thanks.

It's not like it was a fucking frappuchino.

Good god, is there no end to the incompetence (or the coincidences)? The other day I ordered a cranberry orange muffin, and I had to ask for it three times (because nobody listens to you the first 2 times you say what you would like in response to their desultory "what would you like" queries), and yet I still received a fucking blueberry muffin. The really horrible part was that I didn't even notice until I got to my office. The whole experience was so awful it made me want to give it all up and move to Maui with Thurgreed, provided he picks me up on the way and stops in at Starbucks to tell them a thing or two about how to treat a customer.

I mean, blueberries are blue. Cranberry oranges are not blue. Duh.

Edited to place question mark outside parens.

[patentparanyc]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Really? You think? Huh.

I also have an annoying Starbucks story, this morning I ordered a Venti Iced Raspberry Quad white mocha. And said it loud and clear. She called it out as "grande" and I pointed out the venti part. she recalled it. She ommitted the Quad part so I had to specify "please, an extra shot of espresso" she gave me the death look. I was unapologetic. First of all, each addition increases the price of the drink and I said it slow, loud and clear if she didn't get it, it's not my fault. Please. So many people order "grande no foam 2/3 decaf extra hot yadda yadda mocha" and hover over the barista to make sure it's exactly right....mine was not so bad.

[bill killer]

I know it's not Flame War Friday, so I will point this out as nicely as possible:

Actually, you apologized for *sounding* that way. There's a difference between apologizing for *sounding* like you thought that race = class (which would have been appropriate if your message did not accurately represent what you were thinking, i.e., you drafted it poorly), and apologizing that you unintentionally equated race with class (which seems to have been what actually happened).

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but seriously - if you consciously recognize that you have some unconscious (subconscious?) racist thought patterns (and honestly, it's hard not to have developed some in American culture), it can help you be more alert to those thought patterns in the future.

[/end soapbox mode]

Originally posted by patentparanyc
obviosly, it's the worst kind, however, when pointed out to me I apologized.

edited to correct embarrassing i.e./e.g. mixup and fix spelling.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by bill killer
I know it's not Flame War Friday, so I will point this out as nicely as possible:

Actually, you apologized for *sounding* that way. There's a difference between apologizing for *sounding* like you thought that race = class (which would have been appropriate if your message did not accurately represent what you were thinking, e.g., you drafted it poorly), and apologizing that you unintentionally equated race with class (which seems to have been what actually happened).

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but seriously - if you conscioulsy recognize that you have some unconscious (subconscious?) racist thought patterns (and honestly, it's hard not to have developed some in American culture), it can help you be more alert to those thought patterns in the future.

[/end soapbox mode]

This is so hot.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by patentparanyc
I also have an annoying Starbucks story, this morning I ordered a Venti Iced Raspberry Quad white mocha. And said it loud and clear. She called it out as "grande" and I pointed out the venti part. she recalled it. She ommitted the Quad part so I had to specify "please, an extra shot of espresso" she gave me the death look. I was unapologetic. First of all, each addition increases the price of the drink and I said it slow, loud and clear if she didn't get it, it's not my fault. Please. So many people order "grande no foam 2/3 decaf extra hot yadda yadda mocha" and hover over the barista to make sure it's exactly right....mine was not so bad.

That is totally not a parallel to my horror story. You were ordering something difficult.

and rp, someday I will tell you the bagel story, in which I ordered a plain bagel with cream cheese and they gave me a JALEPENO bagel. and I didn't find out until I got to the place I was going, starving, and then was stuck there for FOUR hours.

ok, now I have told you the story. today must be someday.

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
A very large pile of cocaine, BnB, and me.

Thank you, darling. I really, really hope you win.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by bill killer
I know it's not Flame War Friday, so I will point this out as nicely as possible:

Actually, you apologized for *sounding* that way. There's a difference between apologizing for *sounding* like you thought that race = class (which would have been appropriate if your message did not accurately represent what you were thinking, i.e., you drafted it poorly), and apologizing that you unintentionally equated race with class (which seems to have been what actually happened).

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but seriously - if you consciously recognize that you have some unconscious (subconscious?) racist thought patterns (and honestly, it's hard not to have developed some in American culture), it can help you be more alert to those thought patterns in the future.

Hey everyone, she's on my team the next time we talk about the fatties.

[patentparanyc]

Originally posted by bill killer
I know it's not Flame War Friday, so I will point this out as nicely as possible:

Actually, you apologized for *sounding* that way. There's a difference between apologizing for *sounding* like you thought that race = class (which would have been appropriate if your message did not accurately represent what you were thinking, e.g., you drafted it poorly), and apologizing that you unintentionally equated race with class (which seems to have been what actually happened).

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but seriously - if you conscioulsy recognize that you have some unconscious (subconscious?) racist thought patterns (and honestly, it's hard not to have developed some in American culture), it can help you be more alert to those thought patterns in the future.

[/end soapbox mode]

Not to litter the board with my inane postings, but I included the white part because I did not see anything other than the white commuters doing this, and over and over, different people on different trains. It was more an observation than anything else.

But it is inexusable that I could find the CNN picture yesterday offensive but yet unconsciously contribute to stereotypes myself whether conscious or unconscious by including a racial label rather than a socioeconomic label. Gotta watch myself and like you said be aware of that.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Hey everyone, she's on my team the next time we talk about the fatties.

Fuck you.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Fuck you.

Stench or no, you'll have to leave Houston first.

[Atticus Grinch]

The Boston Globe lists occupations of gay marriage license applicants.

Surprisingly, no one put down "C - NY Mets." I wonder if the guy who put down "Packer" was kidding.